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Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 01 2010 22:26 GMT
#1
Hello,

I can't help but feel that I've somehow gotten worse at Sc2 as I have played more. When I used to play, I was a top3 gold player before the reset, and even a week or so ago I was a top5gold player however, all of a sudden I seem to lose every game. Everyone I play just does cheese or Bs all in rushes which just come off as unstoppable. If it's not this, they cube in 2-3 expos and out eco me.

Example 1, proxy rush but putting the proxy half way across the map in a random spot. While I give him credit for this, zealots are just ridiculous early game when compared with their zergling and marine counterparts. Even with a wall up, the mass of zealots seems to counter any wall or few marines I have up.

Should I just play every game as Mass tier1 and cube to counter this? It seems like any time I dont play ULTRA defensive I get cheesed.

Example 2 : 3rax zealot rush to cube half the map and outmass. It seems like all of a sudden cannons take a big fat dump on roaches and I can't do anything, even with 1-2 canons my roaches fall over like paper planes, allowing the enemy player to cube and expo then outeco me. When I try to expo he sends mass zealots to focus fire my expo, yes they die but after a few waves so does my eco, I cannot counter due to mass cannons afaik.

Example 3: Mass Marauders 8rax rush.

Honestly wtf is this. I can't even begin to imagine how one goes about countering this. Air tech? No thanks suicide his 20948094 mauraders through my wall and gg my buildings. Mass t1 is stupid.

I have no idea how to counter this one!

Any insights would be fantastic! If you cannot tell I am a bit frustrated lately because ever since last week It seems that I have gone from top gold to low silver in quality and I have no idea why. I am100% sure these players are not good because I look at their rankings and they are horrendous, half of them do not even have even ratios.

On the contrast, when I play an opponent who does not cheese I usually end up winning so I am a bit confused. If someone plays standard, or let me rephrase, non-cheese, I have a good shot. If someone does what I am going to call cheese, I just get crushed.

help?

Mass zerglings doesnt fail
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 01 2010 22:36 GMT
#2
I can tell you're one of those people that defines any rush hitting before the 6 minute mark a cheese
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 01 2010 22:39 GMT
#3
No sir, I am perfectly fine with rush, however I do get annoyed with mass cannons.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 01 2010 23:14 GMT
#4
On April 02 2010 07:39 Vlare wrote:
No sir, I am perfectly fine with rush, however I do get annoyed with mass cannons.


Do you get cannon rushed ? if you do you did not deserve top gold. Scout, Scout and scout more. Just scouting can get you to platinum if you know the correct unit counters. Intel is extremely important in sc2. I don't know if it was this drastic in sc. My lack of scouting may have caused why i sucked. Though it might also have been my multitasking without MBS
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
April 01 2010 23:29 GMT
#5
Everyone else just got better, a year into SC2 being in gold will actually be impressive.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 01 2010 23:37 GMT
#6
I do scout. they cube their own base. This is what pisses me off more than anything. THEY DONT SCOUT.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 02 2010 00:12 GMT
#7
On April 02 2010 08:37 Vlare wrote:
I do scout. they cube their own base. This is what pisses me off more than anything. THEY DONT SCOUT.

what is this cube you speak of
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 02 2010 00:13 GMT
#8
On April 02 2010 07:39 Vlare wrote:
No sir, I am perfectly fine with rush, however I do get annoyed with mass cannons.

mass cannons at their own base to turtle or at your base early on
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 02 2010 01:33 GMT
#9
Cube is a term we used back in Wc3, it is essentially cannoning yourself in and slowly working outwards with cannons. . So he will basically start cannons in the middle of the map or at a choke, for example on metalopolis he will cannon off the entrance to his natural and his 3rd. Then take them while you cannot get to him.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 06:00:46
April 02 2010 05:44 GMT
#10
you do realise you can just triple expand and make a mass of carriers/or w/e else and win?
this isnt warcraft 3, you dont have only one base
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-02 05:51:30
April 02 2010 05:49 GMT
#11
On April 02 2010 10:33 Vlare wrote:
Cube is a term we used back in Wc3, it is essentially cannoning yourself in and slowly working outwards with cannons. . So he will basically start cannons in the middle of the map or at a choke, for example on metalopolis he will cannon off the entrance to his natural and his 3rd. Then take them while you cannot get to him.


When they spend all that extra money on resources for static defense, just don't macro an army and use the money on expanding yourself. By the time you both have three expansions, you'll be way ahead because he put up static defenses for nothing. Don't hopelessly attack someone who is waiting for you to attack.

Edit: I say this with good confidence because you mentioned they don't necessarily scout. If they don't constantly check your army composition or size, you will be overcompensated for putting your money into your economy when you see they are merely defending an army that isn't going to come when they expect it to.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
April 02 2010 06:14 GMT
#12
Thanks ^

I've started playing very defensive, holding chokes and turtle etc and it's been paying off.
Especially in PvZ because storm is balanced lmfao.

I will keep you guys posted.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 02 2010 07:16 GMT
#13
EN TARO ADUN

KEEP ME POSTED OR I WILL CUT CHU

JK GODO LCUK. I BELIEVE IN YOU
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
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