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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 12:21:37
March 30 2010 11:05 GMT
#1
Over the past week, I have been experiencing the most atrocious internet ever. That makes gaming INTERNET BROWSING TEAMLIQUID BROWSING impossible. Yeah its that bad.

On a good day minute, it can be
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and more often then not its like:
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It is seriously atrocious. At first i didn't mind it, but it has since become a regular occurrence.

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Refer to this for more of my ISP fail + iCCup lag.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=116247

The lag is soo bad, the lag meter in LoL, is busted cause my ping is off the charts like what the fuck.
+ Show Spoiler +
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I'm paying like ~$40 a month for my high speed internet and now i don't think its worth it. my ISP is Shaw, which is based in Calgary. So what I'm wondering is, Is it just Shaw's internet that is retarded? If it is, What are other good, stable ISPs in Alberta?

I'm pretty sure that there is nothing wrong on my end. (but I'm not good with hardware related stuff). Like i changed my 4 year old router for a new one. (I don't know if that even helps). I asked them for help, but it didn't really help.

I hate it.

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Like wtf. Super inconsistant.

*
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Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 11:15:55
March 30 2010 11:07 GMT
#2
I still think we coulda won if it wasn't for Afking Morgana :< more gank into push was needed and she was our only true stun :<

edit: thats true prolly coulda actually ganked and such more efficienctly and last hitted to stack your SoTO

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This is my internet daily but atleast my ping is fairly decent :/ not like an unbearable 400 thats kinda rediculous for 40 dollars a month I pay 20 and get this and I generally am great :<

( O.O) ("\(t.t )/") ~ I'm just looking for someone to hug
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 11:11 GMT
#3
If i wasn't lagging it wouldn't have turned out as bad as it did.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 11:12:07
March 30 2010 11:11 GMT
#4
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That ok? Damn, had to go more than 700 miles.
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Dooba
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Croatia588 Posts
March 30 2010 11:11 GMT
#5
I was going to post my speed meter (which is a bit faster then your fucked up one at it's best) but i noticed your ping is owning you badly.

Perhaps they are changing something and it gets fixed in a couple of days. In the mean time: read a book, go out and get some exercise and clean up your house because you know you never will.
"Zergs are really stronger. I use to win 60-70%, now it is 40-50. I am switching to civilization 5 for now until any terran can come up with a better tactics."
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 11:18 GMT
#6
On March 30 2010 20:11 Manifesto7 wrote:
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That ok? Damn, had to go more than 700 miles.

If only they offered that where I live... 700+ miles and only 88 ms ping. WTF
On March 30 2010 20:11 Dooba wrote:
I was going to post my speed meter (which is a bit faster then your fucked up one at it's best) but i noticed your ping is owning you badly.

Perhaps they are changing something and it gets fixed in a couple of days. In the mean time: read a book, go out and get some exercise and clean up your house because you know you never will.

Problem is that I'm used to fast internet, so when its slow it really pisses me off. I do all those, except I don't really clean up my house. (I have a cleaner person/maid). The thing is Teamliquid is soo addictive, so yea.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
March 30 2010 11:26 GMT
#7
Hey cool I didn't know about this pingtest site, thanks

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
March 30 2010 12:23 GMT
#8
can't help you with your questions, but i'll share my story so that you can feel comforted that you're not alone.

here's the google search page of my isp
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=mytelecom&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

first two results are the homepage. 3rd result is the whirlpool forums (some kind of tech help forums. ISP representatives frequent this site), and its a thread about how much my isp sucks.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 12:31:35
March 30 2010 12:24 GMT
#9
Umm my internet is basically always like this. There is a 100-200ms average ping whenever I try to play hamachi with my friends who are in the SAME CITY as me.

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At least you can get 24 on a good day

edit: holy shit how do I have 20% packet loss lol, I should probably talk to my ISP about it
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 13:04:22
March 30 2010 13:03 GMT
#10
pangshai, you probably have it worst then i do. After i read the 3rd link, i was like wow i feel fortunate to be able to have fast internet, and that my ISP wasn't as bad as that one. Having that type of ISP would be torture for me. If i had a bit slower but more consistent/stable internet I would be fine with it. =(
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 30 2010 13:30 GMT
#11
so this is when my siblings have torrent on in the other room..

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wait what the fuck.....jitter > ping?

Internet sucks bad here. sometimes it's also hardware.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 13:54 GMT
#12
Unable to test packet loss wow. If it is the hardware, i wouldn't know how to fix it. =X
usually when I torrent my speed is barely affected, only noticeable when i try to game.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 30 2010 14:00 GMT
#13
Hahaha, I don't have a certain Java Plugin they needed so yeah....but I bet packet loss with be more than 100%
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 14:13:39
March 30 2010 14:07 GMT
#14
Just wondering, is your connection is shared to your whole neighbourhood?

It's so hard to find good ISPs. Around here certain ISPs seem to only cover certain areas (maybe they have deals with each other, there's a convenient lack of overlapping) so people have a very limited choice, and that leads to no competition to motivate ISPs to improve their service.

So my ISP pretty much has a monopoly over this area, at least it's quite reliable and the speed is consistent.
No I'm never serious.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 14:09 GMT
#15
Pretty sure its just my house, as my neighbors probably have a different ISP.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
March 30 2010 14:18 GMT
#16
It's possible they share it over an even larger area, maybe it's just unreliable though.

I just think it's nonsense how then can legally advertise something as a 20 Mb/s connection when they really mean "Maximum 20 Mb/s" or "20 Mb/s 51% of the time" or "20 Mb/s when you're not using it."
No I'm never serious.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 14:31 GMT
#17
Yea i know, and apparently there is a different between MB/s and Mb/s too. -_-
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love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
March 30 2010 14:51 GMT
#18
Mb/s is 8* MB/s
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
March 30 2010 14:54 GMT
#19
On March 30 2010 23:31 Gao Xi wrote:
Yea i know, and apparently there is a different between MB/s and Mb/s too. -_-

Everything they give you is in Mb (As far as I know). I used to think that there was just a *huge* overhead in my downloads. Then I divided my average by 8, then I was like, oh... Never mind.
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada718 Posts
March 30 2010 14:55 GMT
#20
When I lived in Calgary I was getting massive ping and loss on my Shaw line. I finally got them to send a technician around. It turned out the line had been rubbing against a tree outside the house for a long time and was almost stripped bare. The technician replaced the line (and told us to remind the landlord to get the tree pruned) and after that we didn't have any problems. So, if you think everything at your end is OK (fuck wireless, make sure you're hooked in via ethernet) it could be worth giving Shaw a call.
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 15:48 GMT
#21
I see, thanks for the advice, i'll call them later.
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OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
March 30 2010 16:10 GMT
#22
o.O I live in Calgary but I use telus and it works ok.
But my friends use shaw and whenever someone else in their house is using the internet, they lag like crazy. Like I can still play games while someone is streaming video, but sometimes my friends get huge lag if someone is watching youtube in their house.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
March 30 2010 16:31 GMT
#23
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The only thing wrong with this is download limits.

I should be free of those in a few months!
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 16:49:32
March 30 2010 16:44 GMT
#24
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FIOS
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PS. Probably going to get the 25/25 package from them in the near future.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 16:59:08
March 30 2010 16:55 GMT
#25
On March 31 2010 01:10 OreoBoi wrote:
o.O I live in Calgary but I use telus and it works ok.
But my friends use shaw and whenever someone else in their house is using the internet, they lag like crazy. Like I can still play games while someone is streaming video, but sometimes my friends get huge lag if someone is watching youtube in their house.

I'm probably going to check out Telus too, its just that i heard that they were bad also. =X
On March 31 2010 01:44 Sadistx wrote:
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FIOS
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PS. Probably going to get the 25/25 package from them in the near future.

Lol at the stickman.
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OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
March 30 2010 17:14 GMT
#26
btw if you're gonna switch, don't switch to telus.
It sucks so bad at times. Like the whole telus network will go down and no one using telus will have internet for the whole day. Also its slower than shaw on average.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 18:37 GMT
#27
Oh shit, I'll have to look into other ISPs then.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 18:57:36
March 30 2010 18:53 GMT
#28
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How do I get a B grade when I can't game at all here at work. Packet loss is ridiculous.can't host games and lag to hell in any joined games.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
March 30 2010 18:55 GMT
#29
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JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
March 30 2010 19:28 GMT
#30
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evidently my ping reflects my iccup level =(
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 30 2010 19:33 GMT
#31
Lol your ISP is road runner. =X
I thought hosting games had to do with ports and stuff.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 30 2010 19:43 GMT
#32
On March 31 2010 04:33 Gao Xi wrote:
Lol your ISP is road runner. =X
I thought hosting games had to do with ports and stuff.

It's mostly because of this belkin router that sucks ass even if I configure it properly.
But also, our internet cuts out and lags every 15mins to an hour
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 20:32:23
March 30 2010 20:29 GMT
#33
I'm surprised I scored this well considering the distance of my adapter from the wireless router and the obstructions involved. Best result has been: 3.32 Mb/s down and 0.32 Mb/s up. Worst was something like 2.41 Mb/s down and 0.31 up. The ping test was super solid (A grade; 28ms ping; 2ms Jitter; ~250 mile away server) so, on the whole, fairly impressive for being on wireless and living in the middle of nowhere.

Definitely sounds like you need to get on the ISPs case about the inconsistency. Low constant throughput is one thing, but bouncing between 30 Mb/s downs and 2 Mb/s downs is pretty crazy.
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Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
March 30 2010 21:16 GMT
#34
http://www.speedtest.net/result/766395736.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/13721898.png

My school's internet is a joke during the day. They limit us pretty badly. Can't play on Xbox Live until past 8:30 when they give us more bandwidth lol.
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
March 30 2010 21:16 GMT
#35
On March 31 2010 01:44 Sadistx wrote:
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FIOS
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PS. Probably going to get the 25/25 package from them in the near future.


9 ping? that's so sick dude. i'd kill for 9 ping lol
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 30 2010 22:55 GMT
#36
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 02:34:59
March 31 2010 02:33 GMT
#37
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 31 2010 04:49 GMT
#38
fuck this thread make our internet service look like crap.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
March 31 2010 17:07 GMT
#39
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH SHAW.

My internet is also slow as fuck, I get "Page Loading Errors" 80% of the time, it took me a good 20 minutes to be able to post here. I called Shaw already and they said "it should work properly", fucking idiots, and I'm the only one on the internet, I've tried resetting router AND modem and still nothing has changed.

HOLY FUCK IM RAGING ...
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
March 31 2010 17:26 GMT
#40
Same, it totally sucks. However i haven't had a huge ass lag spike/inconsistancy for the past day. So it seems i don't have to switch yet.
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arcology
Profile Joined April 2009
United States92 Posts
March 31 2010 18:03 GMT
#41
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Sigh.. this is why I can hardly play sc2..
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 01 2010 00:04 GMT
#42
wow 1.7 rating. O_O You should switch ISPs, cause what you're paying is probably not worth it imo.
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Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
April 01 2010 00:27 GMT
#43
You guys are having trouble with Shaw?
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 01 2010 00:58 GMT
#44
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That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada718 Posts
April 01 2010 01:53 GMT
#45
well if everyone else is doing it I'll do it too ^^

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Shaw line in Victoria.

BTW arcology, 24% packet loss is ridiculous... any application will have severe problems at that kind of level. If you're on wireless, you need to get closer to the router, have less stuff between you and it, or just get on wired instead; if you're already on wired you need to give your ISP hell until they fix it.
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
April 01 2010 02:35 GMT
#46
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I've gotten 60 Mb/s at like 3 am, since there a lot of people are my university its worse around 8-12.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 01 2010 03:05 GMT
#47
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Surprised how close mine is to what it should be. xD
Kingfisher
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada144 Posts
April 01 2010 03:36 GMT
#48
Someone in University of Western Ontario post one of this is there are anyone who go there?
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 04:04:32
April 01 2010 03:59 GMT
#49
On April 01 2010 03:03 arcology wrote:
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Sigh.. this is why I can hardly play sc2..

wtf 24% packet loss i couldnt imagine you could do anything properly with that
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 01 2010 04:44 GMT
#50
On April 01 2010 10:53 tarpman wrote:
well if everyone else is doing it I'll do it too ^^

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Shaw line in Victoria.

BTW arcology, 24% packet loss is ridiculous... any application will have severe problems at that kind of level. If you're on wireless, you need to get closer to the router, have less stuff between you and it, or just get on wired instead; if you're already on wired you need to give your ISP hell until they fix it.

Was your internet laggy for the past week? If not, thats pretty retarded cause Shaw is based in Calgary and I live in Calgary, yet its laggy only in Calgary and not else where. O_O
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
April 01 2010 04:57 GMT
#51
Shaw's been working fine for me. There's been a couple times where I couldn't seem to connect to the Internet at all, but that hasn't happened for a long time.
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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-01 06:00:16
April 01 2010 06:00 GMT
#52
I guess it might only be my area that is affected, that sucks. I'm gonna call them and see whats wrong. Probably the wire or w/e.
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tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada718 Posts
April 02 2010 15:55 GMT
#53
On April 01 2010 13:44 Gao Xi wrote:
Was your internet laggy for the past week? If not, thats pretty retarded cause Shaw is based in Calgary and I live in Calgary, yet its laggy only in Calgary and not else where. O_O

No, my internet has been fine. Bad lag is probably a localized thing anyway -- maybe there is a hardware problem in your area, or maybe several of your neighbours are hardcore torrenters.
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