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VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
March 24 2010 19:29 GMT
#81
Ohhhh I love teamliquid. So much fun stuff happens on a daily basis lmao. Where else could you find such a jewel as a thread starting about defending a well known american player, only to be derailed by the return of a former Race troll and his impending perma-ban.
Why?
RunningThrough
Profile Joined October 2009
United States14 Posts
March 25 2010 04:11 GMT
#82
I don't care what anyone says, that Borat comment was hilarious regardless of who said it.

Some people are just bland with a bad sense of humor; and sometimes, I wish there was no such thing as stuff being subjective.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
March 25 2010 04:31 GMT
#83
On March 25 2010 04:13 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 04:02 AzureEye wrote:
On March 25 2010 00:09 Sadistx wrote:
On March 24 2010 23:48 AzureEye wrote:
On March 24 2010 13:39 Setsuna. wrote:
us terrans rage easily compared to other races, because we're the only ones mostly susceptible to gay cheese from protoss/zerg players. Terrans are very limited in options to cheese other races =/


uh no. Bunker rush, BBS, proxy fact, Deep Six, early wraiths, 3 fact all-in, ayumi, sunken break, fake mech, etc. Actually Terran cheese is a lot safer than other race cheeses

Wrong on all accounts, but I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're hopeless Azure
None of those are safe, and most of them are all-in strats, just because of how weak terran units are.


You're obviously wrong. T cheese is ALOT safer than Z cheese in TvZ and a bit safer in TvP than P cheese.

Compare common TvZ cheeses:
4 pool vs. 8 rax bunker rush. If bunker rush fails, just cancel bunker / retreat marines. You are even because he had to pull drones to block your cheese and you probably got to kill at least 1 drone. 4 pool neglects making workers and totally takes a shit on your economy where u cannot recover period

Note that these cheeses are NOT happening at the same time in the same game.

Common TvP cheeses:
2 Fact vs. DT rush
With good micro, even if 2 Fact gets blocked, you've probably done a lot of damage and laid mines all over his natural where it delays his expo. Your economy might be not so good but its still decent cuz u didn't cut scv production. You also have a 2nd production building even if it failed.

DT Rush
Basically Protoss is suppose to get Observer / Robo Tech first for obvious reasons but went to Archives early. This means his obs is delayed and any good Terran will not let this opportunity pass by. Vulture / mine harrass will do heavy damage to the Protoss, and even if it didn't, it will buy you a lot of time to secure expos because his Obs is heavily delayed. Not to mention that T will probably already have CC up while Protoss is still on 1 base, which makes it heavily disadvantaged economically

You called Terran units fragile? Lol since when was Metal army ever fragile with those ridiculous upgrades? When were marines who had 40 health but could take in 300+ damage because of healing medics ever fragile? Hell, your workers even have 20 extra health for no damn reason which helps tremendously starting mid-game

Even if your natural is blocked by enemy units and you placed ur units on ramp because you're behind and playing defensively, Terran is the only race where you can expand during that time because your expanding building has the ability to lift. Thank god they removed that feature in SC2

Oh you sad, silly, stupid man.

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On January 20 2010 07:40 TL.net Bot wrote:
AzureEye was just temp banned for 30 days by EvilTeletubby.
Reason: For those who don't remember Azure, please read this thread.

He created a ZvT imbalance thread (as F13) then replied in support of himself on his alternate account Februarys. Over a year later, and he's still trolling with garbage arguments, absolutely refusing to ever actually debate or concede points.

The site is going to enjoy the next 30 days without you. When you return,

I FORBID YOU FROM PARTICIPATING IN ANY RACIAL IMBALANCE DISCUSSIONS.

Failure to comply will result in an immediate perm ban, and all of your known IP addresses will be blacklisted. This has nothing to do with censorship, this has to do with the fact that for the past year and a half you've done nothing but troll with the topic, derailing every thread you enter. You have demonstrated a complete inability to actually discuss a topic; you take your own word as gospel, refuse to accept facts/statistics backing up someone else's claim, and people trying to debate with you would have better success with a brick wall. You are abrasive and combative without even being instigated.

In short, you are a detriment to the website, and I sincerely hope you can change this attitude when you return.


As promised, I just perm banned every single IP address he has ever posted here with. Hey, it took a while, but I'm a man of my word.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
March 25 2010 05:18 GMT
#84
Rofl nice ET, I'm kind of proud this happened in my blog lol and also ashamed at the same time I'm torn.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 25 2010 10:22 GMT
#85
OK, I understand that Azure was taking things too far but there are terran fans who constantly complain and make threads alleging imbalance against terrans. If fact threads in which terrans whine are by far the most common: 'Why aren't there more terrans outside of the pro scene?', 'Why do terrans lose?' etc etc. These threads may be disguised as questions but it's pretty obvious what the intent is. I've noticed these sort of thread seem to get a lot more leeway around here.

Shouldn't some of these people be banned as well? I hate to say it but sometimes I really think TL has a terran bias going on.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 25 2010 11:02 GMT
#86
On March 25 2010 19:22 tomatriedes wrote:
OK, I understand that Azure was taking things too far but there are terran fans who constantly complain and make threads alleging imbalance against terrans. If fact threads in which terrans whine are by far the most common: 'Why aren't there more terrans outside of the pro scene?', 'Why do terrans lose?' etc etc. These threads may be disguised as questions but it's pretty obvious what the intent is. I've noticed these sort of thread seem to get a lot more leeway around here.

Shouldn't some of these people be banned as well? I hate to say it but sometimes I really think TL has a terran bias going on.

well no, cuz their whining is justified
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 25 2010 20:47 GMT
#87
On March 25 2010 19:22 tomatriedes wrote:
OK, I understand that Azure was taking things too far but there are terran fans who constantly complain and make threads alleging imbalance against terrans. If fact threads in which terrans whine are by far the most common: 'Why aren't there more terrans outside of the pro scene?', 'Why do terrans lose?' etc etc. These threads may be disguised as questions but it's pretty obvious what the intent is. I've noticed these sort of thread seem to get a lot more leeway around here.

Shouldn't some of these people be banned as well? I hate to say it but sometimes I really think TL has a terran bias going on.

There's a difference between players raging at a bad day on iCCup and someone who rages every day on every thread about the same thing with the same debunked arguments and harassing people through PMs because they called him an idiot for all the right reasons.
RunningThrough
Profile Joined October 2009
United States14 Posts
March 25 2010 21:45 GMT
#88
tomatriedes How about you stop trying to turn this into some IMBA thread and focus on the subject at hand if you're going to post in this topic at all.

Sounds like a good idea to me; because it is one.
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-25 21:55:18
March 25 2010 21:50 GMT
#89
On March 26 2010 06:45 RunningThrough wrote:
tomatriedes How about you stop trying to turn this into some IMBA thread and focus on the subject at hand if you're going to post in this topic at all.

Sounds like a good idea to me; because it is one.

While trying to rip on another tl user, you just ignored yourself and the topic. Just thought I should point that out. Hipocrasy is a disease, better go get your shot.

edit: not to mention that instead of ignoring the change of topic in the thread and continuing on to express your opinion of the OP you just pushed the derailment further. congratulations
Why?
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 26 2010 08:59 GMT
#90
On March 25 2010 20:02 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 19:22 tomatriedes wrote:
OK, I understand that Azure was taking things too far but there are terran fans who constantly complain and make threads alleging imbalance against terrans. If fact threads in which terrans whine are by far the most common: 'Why aren't there more terrans outside of the pro scene?', 'Why do terrans lose?' etc etc. These threads may be disguised as questions but it's pretty obvious what the intent is. I've noticed these sort of thread seem to get a lot more leeway around here.

Shouldn't some of these people be banned as well? I hate to say it but sometimes I really think TL has a terran bias going on.

well no, cuz their whining is justified


Haha. Nice.
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