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Why is it ok to flame idra because of bm?
In this community (TL players anyway not necessarily starcraft as a whole[ dang easties]) manner is taken in to account. When all the thousands of people that use this site watch vods and live games and korean e-sports and even the user live streams, they see the overall good manner of such players as white-ra and nony.
Nobody bm's as much as idra. I've watched shitloads of vods and livestreams and most people are pretty mannered. Yea theres the chance that someone gets pissed and ragequits or talks some shit befoe they leave, hey I've done it, we all have.
BUT idra is in the eye of the public and he has a huge complex (which he is totally allowed to have imo, he worked hard to get to where he is) and when someone in the public eye acts the way he does, it obviously gets noticed and over time thats what he has become known for. Its almost as if we watch idra EXPECTING a drawn out macro game or BM at the end of a cheese.
So really unless he changes the way he plays and treats other gamers with a bit more respect people wont stop flaming him for it. If he was anybody else, noone would care. But because he lives in korea and plays this game for a living, what he does while playing effects what people think of him.
Honestly I think its funny, I dont look down on him for it. Its entertaining to me. Ya sometimes I think its ridiculous and cheese is part of the game just say GG and bounce... On the other end, I ragequit too lol.
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us terrans rage easily compared to other races, because we're the only ones mostly susceptible to gay cheese from protoss/zerg players. Terrans are very limited in options to cheese other races =/
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On March 24 2010 13:39 Setsuna. wrote:
us terrans rage easily compared to other races, because we're the only ones mostly susceptible to gay cheese from protoss/zerg players. Terrans are very limited in options to cheese other races =/
Pretty much this, and don't give me that BBS crap "oh you guys have a universal cheese" it's not THAT great.
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I am a IdrA fan, and i am so big addicted by his games because he is always bm! He introduces show moments and not only play moments.
At every game I ask me:"will he say anything in the end?"
However in RL it seems a good guy..so I really don't mind if he is rude in internet
(and be serious..he is not that rude..)
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On March 24 2010 13:15 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 10:02 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
he gets flamed because everytime he is asked anything about anyone he says the most negative thing he can think of while trying to be "funny."
no i actually tone it down alot people are just so bad that thats the best i can do
I stand corrected hehe
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On March 24 2010 13:15 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 10:02 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
he gets flamed because everytime he is asked anything about anyone he says the most negative thing he can think of while trying to be "funny."
no i actually tone it down alot people are just so bad that thats the best i can do
We have a winner
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Idra is an advertising genius. He is able to generate more drama than anyone else on this forum.
Even Rekrul is jealous.
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If he starts physically abusing opponents after losses, he will be the greatest anti-hero of all time
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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On March 24 2010 13:39 Setsuna. wrote:
us terrans rage easily compared to other races, because we're the only ones mostly susceptible to gay cheese from protoss/zerg players. Terrans are very limited in options to cheese other races =/
uh no. Bunker rush, BBS, proxy fact, Deep Six, early wraiths, 3 fact all-in, ayumi, sunken break, fake mech, etc. Actually Terran cheese is a lot safer than other race cheeses
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On March 24 2010 23:48 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 13:39 Setsuna. wrote:
us terrans rage easily compared to other races, because we're the only ones mostly susceptible to gay cheese from protoss/zerg players. Terrans are very limited in options to cheese other races =/ uh no. Bunker rush, BBS, proxy fact, Deep Six, early wraiths, 3 fact all-in, ayumi, sunken break, fake mech, etc. Actually Terran cheese is a lot safer than other race cheeses
Wrong on all accounts, but I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're hopeless Azure 
None of those are safe, and most of them are all-in strats, just because of how weak terran units are.
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On March 24 2010 18:02 baller wrote:
haha funny
that quote suits a harry potter book spoof more though
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On March 24 2010 11:32 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 11:29 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Did you watch the game in his replay pack that was analyzed to be vs Julyzerg? I wont tell you what July did but he got called a faggot at the end of it. So? How does July deserve to be called a faggot any less than anyone else? I don't even see where you are coming from in this thread at all. It seems like you're just jumping positions trying to get a rise out of people.
Because July is the manliest of all men
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On March 24 2010 12:26 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 12:17 UCSB.Gosu wrote:On March 24 2010 11:29 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Did you watch the game in his replay pack that was analyzed to be vs Julyzerg? I wont tell you what July did but he got called a faggot at the end of it. JulyZerg actually called IdrA a faggot? Other way around buddy, July rushed him and got called a faggot for it.
If this is true this is unacceptable.
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On March 25 2010 00:09 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 23:48 AzureEye wrote:On March 24 2010 13:39 Setsuna. wrote:
us terrans rage easily compared to other races, because we're the only ones mostly susceptible to gay cheese from protoss/zerg players. Terrans are very limited in options to cheese other races =/ uh no. Bunker rush, BBS, proxy fact, Deep Six, early wraiths, 3 fact all-in, ayumi, sunken break, fake mech, etc. Actually Terran cheese is a lot safer than other race cheeses Wrong on all accounts, but I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're hopeless Azure None of those are safe, and most of them are all-in strats, just because of how weak terran units are.
You're obviously wrong. T cheese is ALOT safer than Z cheese in TvZ and a bit safer in TvP than P cheese.
Compare common TvZ cheeses:
4 pool vs. 8 rax bunker rush. If bunker rush fails, just cancel bunker / retreat marines. You are even because he had to pull drones to block your cheese and you probably got to kill at least 1 drone. 4 pool neglects making workers and totally takes a shit on your economy where u cannot recover period
Note that these cheeses are NOT happening at the same time in the same game.
Common TvP cheeses:
2 Fact vs. DT rush
With good micro, even if 2 Fact gets blocked, you've probably done a lot of damage and laid mines all over his natural where it delays his expo. Your economy might be not so good but its still decent cuz u didn't cut scv production. You also have a 2nd production building even if it failed.
DT Rush
Basically Protoss is suppose to get Observer / Robo Tech first for obvious reasons but went to Archives early. This means his obs is delayed and any good Terran will not let this opportunity pass by. Vulture / mine harrass will do heavy damage to the Protoss, and even if it didn't, it will buy you a lot of time to secure expos because his Obs is heavily delayed. Not to mention that T will probably already have CC up while Protoss is still on 1 base, which makes it heavily disadvantaged economically
You called Terran units fragile? Lol since when was Metal army ever fragile with those ridiculous upgrades? When were marines who had 40 health but could take in 300+ damage because of healing medics ever fragile? Hell, your workers even have 20 extra health for no damn reason which helps tremendously starting mid-game
Even if your natural is blocked by enemy units and you placed ur units on ramp because you're behind and playing defensively, Terran is the only race where you can expand during that time because your expanding building has the ability to lift. Thank god they removed that feature in SC2
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On March 24 2010 22:03 Boblion wrote:
Idra is an advertising genius. He is able to generate more drama than anyone else on this forum.
Even Rekrul is jealous.
lolol true
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Man, wasn't AzureEye banned from talking about Terran?
Idra is hilarious when he loses. It's why I cheer against him all the time.
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Calgary25981 Posts
On March 25 2010 04:02 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 00:09 Sadistx wrote:On March 24 2010 23:48 AzureEye wrote:On March 24 2010 13:39 Setsuna. wrote:
us terrans rage easily compared to other races, because we're the only ones mostly susceptible to gay cheese from protoss/zerg players. Terrans are very limited in options to cheese other races =/ uh no. Bunker rush, BBS, proxy fact, Deep Six, early wraiths, 3 fact all-in, ayumi, sunken break, fake mech, etc. Actually Terran cheese is a lot safer than other race cheeses Wrong on all accounts, but I wouldn't expect you to understand, you're hopeless Azure None of those are safe, and most of them are all-in strats, just because of how weak terran units are. You're obviously wrong. T cheese is ALOT safer than Z cheese in TvZ and a bit safer in TvP than P cheese. Compare common TvZ cheeses: 4 pool vs. 8 rax bunker rush. If bunker rush fails, just cancel bunker / retreat marines. You are even because he had to pull drones to block your cheese and you probably got to kill at least 1 drone. 4 pool neglects making workers and totally takes a shit on your economy where u cannot recover period Note that these cheeses are NOT happening at the same time in the same game. Common TvP cheeses: 2 Fact vs. DT rush With good micro, even if 2 Fact gets blocked, you've probably done a lot of damage and laid mines all over his natural where it delays his expo. Your economy might be not so good but its still decent cuz u didn't cut scv production. You also have a 2nd production building even if it failed. DT Rush Basically Protoss is suppose to get Observer / Robo Tech first for obvious reasons but went to Archives early. This means his obs is delayed and any good Terran will not let this opportunity pass by. Vulture / mine harrass will do heavy damage to the Protoss, and even if it didn't, it will buy you a lot of time to secure expos because his Obs is heavily delayed. Not to mention that T will probably already have CC up while Protoss is still on 1 base, which makes it heavily disadvantaged economically You called Terran units fragile? Lol since when was Metal army ever fragile with those ridiculous upgrades? When were marines who had 40 health but could take in 300+ damage because of healing medics ever fragile? Hell, your workers even have 20 extra health for no damn reason which helps tremendously starting mid-game Even if your natural is blocked by enemy units and you placed ur units on ramp because you're behind and playing defensively, Terran is the only race where you can expand during that time because your expanding building has the ability to lift. Thank god they removed that feature in SC2
Oh you sad, silly, stupid man.
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