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SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:39:37
March 23 2010 20:04 GMT
#1
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[image loading]

this is a graph taken from a normal distributed, randomly generated data using the inverse and function with rnd() on excel

someone tell me how to make that, with 0 variance?
and how to make a graph of a skewed distribution?

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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 23 2010 20:05 GMT
#2
use excel? or any similar product

they are pretty user friendly imo and if your having trouble you can always google how to do something
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 23 2010 20:07 GMT
#3
I tried excel, problem is:

how would I graph a perfect normal curve and a perfect skewed distribution on excel and have the
ability to comment on the graph as i wish?
JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
March 23 2010 20:10 GMT
#4
Are you sure you can't Google some pictures and paste them into whatever presentation software you're using?
Dance dance dance 'till we run this town!
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
March 23 2010 20:12 GMT
#5
Yeah, miscrosoft excel should do the job. one column with the x numbers, the next column with the y numbers, select them, right click, make graph or something similar :p adding text and stuff shouldn't be much of a problem if you have a little experience with pc software

If you can get your hands on Origin, it's a more powerful program, specifically for making graphs, and a bit easier to use as well. But if you have excel already (which you probably do) give it a shot over there first, you shouldn't have that much trouble.
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
March 23 2010 20:15 GMT
#6
I'm all about the SPSS, but that's only because the school bought me a license for it. Excel is the way to go otherwise though, should be able to handle anything you need from it
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
March 23 2010 20:16 GMT
#7
http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=normal curve&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

are you kidding me?
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 19:38:19
March 23 2010 20:19 GMT
#8
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SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 23 2010 20:20 GMT
#9
I need multiple graphs overlaying one another and professional looking. Most of those on google images are crappy looking and have text I don't need -_-

and I know how to graph on excel. but how do I graph 2 perfect normal curves?????????
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 19:38:35
March 23 2010 20:20 GMT
#10
On March 24 2010 05:19 baller wrote:
[image loading]


thanks, if you could make that with a normal distribution and skewed distribution, that would be nice.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:29:41
March 23 2010 20:22 GMT
#11
I use this basic program for simple graphs. Allows graphing functions (which probably is what you're looking for).

http://www.padowan.dk/graph/

Give him a break about excel. Takes time to learn how to use it properly, and doesn't allow graphing pure functions without input data as far as I know. While there are ways of generating these data columns, they still take time and effort to learn how to do.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 19:39:20
March 23 2010 20:26 GMT
#12
On March 24 2010 05:20 SkylineSC wrote:
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On March 24 2010 05:19 baller wrote:
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thanks, if you could make that with a normal distribution and skewed distribution, that would be nice.

[image loading]
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:28:00
March 23 2010 20:27 GMT
#13
K baller, look dumber by posting here. chill provided a link of normal distribution, look at it first plz.

but hey, I do appreciate the comedic effort
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 23 2010 20:28 GMT
#14
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Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
March 23 2010 20:29 GMT
#15
http://images.google.ca/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=modified normal curves&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&start=0

??????????
are you seriously asking how to draw 2 graphs together? the worst part is that you KNOW how to do it but youre too lazy to do it
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HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
March 23 2010 20:29 GMT
#16
use excel or open office spreadsheet software.
simply generate a your x values and then put them in the Gaussian and if you want a slightly skewed graph, do some randomization... ez pz....
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 23 2010 20:31 GMT
#17
baller you mad this thread interesting lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 19:39:51
March 23 2010 20:31 GMT
#18
On March 24 2010 05:27 SkylineSC wrote:
K baller, look dumber by posting here. chill provided a link of normal distribution, look at it first plz.

[image loading]
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 23 2010 20:31 GMT
#19
On March 24 2010 05:22 LaLuSh wrote:
I use this basic program for simple graphs. Allows graphing functions (which probably is what you're looking for).

http://www.padowan.dk/graph/

Give him a break about excel. Takes time to learn how to use it properly, and doesn't allow graphing pure functions without input data as far as I know. While there are ways of generating these data columns, they still take time to learn how to do properly.


look you guys must think I'm retarded. I know how to graph using excel. I know how to generate numbers, and I can generated data from a normal distribution.

BUT ITS NOT PERFECT
[image loading]

this is a graph taken from a normal distributed, randomly generated data using the inverse and function with rnd().

someone tell me how to make that, with 0 variance?

god, its amazing how little help the posts and the smartass attitude that comes with it.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 23 2010 20:36 GMT
#20
watever though, you win baller.

thanks all.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
March 23 2010 20:37 GMT
#21
this blog makes me lol
this game is a fucking jokie
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
March 23 2010 20:39 GMT
#22
On March 24 2010 05:31 SkylineSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 05:22 LaLuSh wrote:
I use this basic program for simple graphs. Allows graphing functions (which probably is what you're looking for).

http://www.padowan.dk/graph/

Give him a break about excel. Takes time to learn how to use it properly, and doesn't allow graphing pure functions without input data as far as I know. While there are ways of generating these data columns, they still take time to learn how to do properly.


look you guys must think I'm retarded. I know how to graph using excel. I know how to generate numbers, and I can generated data from a normal distribution.

BUT ITS NOT PERFECT
[image loading]

this is a graph taken from a normal distributed, randomly generated data using the inverse and function with rnd().

someone tell me how to make that, with 0 variance?

god, its amazing how little help the posts and the smartass attitude that comes with it.

yea it is amazing. so amazing that i made this in like 20 seconds
[image loading]
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SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:41:51
March 23 2010 20:41 GMT
#23
lol nice. if you leave out the text, i really have a product I can use.

and

close my blog please, you've helped me enough. thanks.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
March 23 2010 20:42 GMT
#24
On March 24 2010 05:41 SkylineSC wrote:
lol nice. if you leave out the text, i really have a product I can use.

thats specifically why i wrote over the lines
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
March 23 2010 20:42 GMT
#25
[image loading]
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 23 2010 20:45 GMT
#26
On March 24 2010 05:42 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2010 05:41 SkylineSC wrote:
lol nice. if you leave out the text, i really have a product I can use.

thats specifically why i wrote over the lines


looks like i'm back to square one then
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:50:24
March 23 2010 20:46 GMT
#27
What exactly are you trying to create? Maybe I can help. The variance is just the standard deviation squared. Thus, for your variance to be equal to zero you just have to have the exact same value for all your data.

Additionally, set your excel chart to plot smoothed lines, it'll make it look nicer.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
March 23 2010 20:47 GMT
#28
lol im finding like exactly what you need by basic google searches.

so far using 4 different search strings ive found what you need

in fact its impressive that you cant find what you need
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SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 23 2010 20:49 GMT
#29
On March 24 2010 05:46 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
What exactly are you trying to create? Maybe I can help. The variance is just the standard deviation squared.

Additionally, set your excel chart to plot smoothed lines, it'll make it look nicer.


I'm trying to create a normal distribution graph, and a skewed distribution graph. when I generate random data for those graphs, they have a lot of noise. I just want to generate a graph with those two distributions with no noise so I can illustrate it in a presentation.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:51:09
March 23 2010 20:50 GMT
#30
chill: I dont' want to copy past eraser google images for a formal presentation... but thanks for your help anyways. and they don't have the graphs I need. and you dont HAVE to help if you think I'm wasting your time k?
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:54:28
March 23 2010 20:53 GMT
#31
Skewed in what sense? You want to move the mean further to the right on the x-axis?
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 23 2010 20:55 GMT
#32
yea and never mind, I figured it out.

I didn't use the normdist() function in excel.

now chill you can really close this.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 20:56:48
March 23 2010 20:55 GMT
#33
On March 24 2010 05:47 Chill wrote:
lol im finding like exactly what you need by basic google searches.

so far using 4 different search strings ive found what you need

in fact its impressive that you cant find what you need

To be fair, he's asking how to make the graph, not for one.

However, he could still have googled a guide himself. sup

Edit: Beaten by the OP ninja.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
March 23 2010 20:57 GMT
#34
He just wants it shifted to the right. Like this or this or this or this:
[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
March 23 2010 21:00 GMT
#35
The normdist() function will only help you find the probability at a specific value within a normal distribution.

Just take the x values you have for that one data set and +3 and leave the y values alone. Plot that on top of the original.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 23 2010 21:06 GMT
#36
Funny blog.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-23 21:08:37
March 23 2010 21:07 GMT
#37
yea that was exactly what I needed.
[image loading]

thanks.


and chill I dont know what your deal is, I need a blank graph I could use for a presentation. how am i suppose to use any of those???

i mean do you want like me to admit you've helped me greately? your better at using the internet than me? i'm too lazy to find help on my own? seriously, you win. please close this.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
March 23 2010 21:37 GMT
#38
Look. If everyone made a thread "I have some exceedingly simple, mundane task that I don't want to do so I'm looking for a simpler way to accomplish it" then this forum would be a fucking waste dump. In teasing you, I hoped you would reach this conclusion yourself, but obviously you didn't. So here I am explicitly stating it to you in the hopes you understand.
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 24 2010 17:26 GMT
#39
Wow, I stopped reading this thread just before baller dropped by, highly entertaining, Tasteless would be calling the police already;)
BW fighting!
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
March 25 2010 04:40 GMT
#40
Could... could baller be this guy?

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html

If so, that would be hilarious, although it seems unlikely.
NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
March 25 2010 05:18 GMT
#41
On March 25 2010 13:40 Conquest101 wrote:
Could... could baller be this guy?

http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html

If so, that would be hilarious, although it seems unlikely.


Baller is a mirror into the better part of all of us. A blank canvas on which we project the best in ourselves. Follow his way and you will never be lost.
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
March 25 2010 05:49 GMT
#42
On March 24 2010 06:37 Chill wrote:
Look. If everyone made a thread "I have some exceedingly simple, mundane task that I don't want to do so I'm looking for a simpler way to accomplish it" then this forum would be a fucking waste dump. In teasing you, I hoped you would reach this conclusion yourself, but obviously you didn't. So here I am explicitly stating it to you in the hopes you understand.

Quote of the month. Cynicism parts for the truth to come out. From what I see it's exceedingly rare for Chill not to troll the heck out of queries like this and leave a message to the moral of his trollings.
C'est la vie...
Lokomis
Profile Joined July 2009
United States72 Posts
March 25 2010 10:54 GMT
#43
I began reading and then I started laughing. I settled myself, read onward and then I laughed harder. Then I threw up a little because I have the flu and I shouldn't be laughing so hard. After all that I had to make a post in this thread so I could easily dig it up later and laugh just as hard once or twice more (but hopefully without the vomiting).
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
March 25 2010 12:31 GMT
#44
Yet another way to make a graph
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 25 2010 12:42 GMT
#45
On March 25 2010 21:31 Manit0u wrote:
Yet another way to make a graph


ah nice

and reopen the thread? why?
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
March 25 2010 13:37 GMT
#46
wait, were you really asking for a graph with zero variance??? that would just be a dot lol.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
March 25 2010 13:44 GMT
#47
that's not a graph.

this is a graph
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 25 2010 16:01 GMT
#48
On March 25 2010 21:31 Manit0u wrote:
Yet another way to make a graph



Matlab > Wolfram mathematica
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 25 2010 16:16 GMT
#49
maybe but I have no idea why anyone would ever willingly use matlab under any circumstance
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 25 2010 16:42 GMT
#50
because its easy to use. has a lot of difrent uses. and basicly requires no programming knowledge at all
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
March 25 2010 16:47 GMT
#51
matlab requires no programming knowledge?? What are you talking about. We say "matlab code" for a reason.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-25 16:55:01
March 25 2010 16:54 GMT
#52
Matlab is not a programming language.
You can create programming like routines like in .m files. However all functions are predefined (although you can add more)
But unlike in programming you dont have dirrect control over memory loops and such.

You could teach matlab to a 12year old and he can set aside his calculator forever.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 25 2010 21:38 GMT
#53
On March 26 2010 01:54 Marradron wrote:
Matlab is not a programming language.
You can create programming like routines like in .m files. However all functions are predefined (although you can add more)
But unlike in programming you dont have dirrect control over memory loops and such.

You could teach matlab to a 12year old and he can set aside his calculator forever.

Matlab IS a programming language, a high-level one at that (so called 4GL), as well as a computing enviroment which uses that language.
All functions are predefined, although you can add more? What does that even mean? :-p
BW fighting!
SkylineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States564 Posts
March 25 2010 21:50 GMT
#54
I've never used matlab but from what i know its not a programming language in its traditional sense. its more a numerical analysis tool. I know people who use it for advanced data analysis. its a different breed of programming language, mathematica is pretty popular for that too.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
March 25 2010 22:33 GMT
#55
On March 25 2010 22:37 Luddite wrote:
wait, were you really asking for a graph with zero variance??? that would just be a dot lol.

It would be a dirac delta distribution:
[image loading]
theslayer922
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada304 Posts
January 07 2011 13:17 GMT
#56
lol, i pulled a wikipedia of going from a link in a thread to another link, and here i am bumping this one because baller is just that amazing.

original thread
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