Place yer bets! I plan to do a bunch of these threads from now on to familiarize people with different units stats and upgrades. after poll runs for a while I'll post vids/results.
What wins? A roach with 1 attack upgrade or a roach with regen upgrade?
i voted all for +1 attack. when u talk of group vs group you shold discuss if the group is proper microed or if you will simply A attack the other group ( i suppose that with an A attack the regeneration group will have the best benefit)
I'd agree with proper micro the regen ones will win at lower levels, since if they just retreat for a while they can regenerate much more hp (+5 right?) than the one with the +1 attack up. But with larger amounts of roaches the attack bonuses will win due to one-shots.
On March 13 2010 00:14 flamewheel91 wrote: I'd agree with proper micro the regen ones will win at lower levels, since if they just retreat for a while they can regenerate much more hp (+5 right?) than the one with the +1 attack up. But with larger amounts of roaches the attack bonuses will win due to one-shots.
something also to note is in a 5v5 situation, 100 gas (for +1) is the same gas cost of 4 roaches. i'm assuming that isn't an option though
I guess I should have clarified what was the case. When I made the polls I was thinking to focus fire and queue up attacks to focus from both sides without retreating micro or anything else.
I think I'll do a video of both circumstances just to see.
On March 13 2010 00:14 flamewheel91 wrote: I'd agree with proper micro the regen ones will win at lower levels, since if they just retreat for a while they can regenerate much more hp (+5 right?) than the one with the +1 attack up. But with larger amounts of roaches the attack bonuses will win due to one-shots.
something also to note is in a 5v5 situation, 100 gas (for +1) is the same gas cost of 4 roaches. i'm assuming that isn't an option though
but the upgrade is 100/100 and 1 roach cost 75 minerals as well.
And just fyi, each missile attack for zerg ground gives +2 attack for roaches but +1 to hydras.
Tests are done, Results are in and polls taken down.
1v1 - Regen won 5v5 A-move - Regen won 5v5 Focus Que - Regen won 10v10 A-Move - Regen won 10v10 Focus Que - Regen won 100v100 A-Move - +2upgrade (+4 dmg) won
So basically regen plain out owns. So since we thought it'd be cool we did a 100v100 fight with a +2 upgrade vs regen. The results were pretty close, wow regen owns.
9 roach with 1 upgrade did 144 damage plus super fast regen left me with about 9 hp in a 1vs9. it would take 10 to 1 shot him.
btw in a group of 100(or any number for that matter) it will say 100 on the hotkey tab.
13 leftover for +2 upgrade.
videos coming soon. And next thread will be zealot tests. Let me know if you guys have any other ideas for unit battles like these. (I was thinking maybe marines - shields, attack upgrade, stim, etc)
Increased regen rate when burrowed was insane. I remember I tested this a month ago and relayed the results to a friend...
chuiu: ling cant kill an upgraded roach chuiu: you need 2 lings to even damage one chuiu: and even then chuiu: its health is going down so slow
chuiu: i have 4 cracklings on a burrowed roach and its doing nothing!! chuiu: 5 chuiu: 6 chuiu: 7 is about breaking even chuiu: 8 cant fit on there, he's circling around trying to attack rofl
chuiu: takes at least 4 roaches to kill a burrowed roach
I also tried ultralisks, and I think it took 2 ultralisks to damage a burrowed roach or something like that. Can't remember very well though that was a while ago.
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