• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:18
CET 01:18
KST 09:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !6Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1720 users

... The One You Came With

Blogs > mmp
Post a Reply
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-14 06:29:43
February 14 2010 06:26 GMT
#1
For the past few months, I've been using a junky Windows XP box to play Starcraft. Considering the frequency with which I run Starcraft, and a limit on computer cables (lack of KVM, etc.), this meant turning OFF my beloved GNU/Linux and turning ON Windows.

For several months I had become accustomed to running Windows 24/7, and checking my email in a browser instead of Pine, transferring files with a graphical SFTP client (lol drag drop for noobs) instead of 'scp', and doing remote logins with putty instead of just 'ssh'.

I was adjusting to a different lifestyle with different standards. System unresponsiveness was becoming a standard. Using shitty applications that hog system resources was becoming a standard. Crashes, forced halts, and degraded performance were becoming a standard. Even Starcraft lagged (wtf!?).

Today my Windows box got a virus. TaskManager wouldn't run. Command Prompt wouldn't run. SafeMode wouldn't work. FUCK THIS SHIT.

Patiently waiting in the corner of my room, next to my radiator and trash can, occasionally fulfilling the role of a footstool or dinner table, my GNU/Linux box waited faithfully.

At first I felt ashamed coming back to the one that I'd dumped. I had almost reformatted my beloved GNU/Linux box in favor of an optimal gaming rig, but for some reason I just couldn't build up the nerve to taint this one proud machine I had built up from scraps by my own toil; I could not taint with the evil that Microsoft spews.

I swapped all of the cables from my shit box to my shiny GNU/Linux box. I pressed the ON bottom. Blue LEDs awoke from months of hibernation. A familiar login screen greeted me, and immediately recognized my unchanged password.

My GNU/Linux box never let me down.

My GNU/Linux box never lagged.

My GNU/Linux box never got a virus and turned into a crazy psychobitch that I never knew and then left me for some fling with a worm from a 3rd-world country.

The lesson: Dance with the one you came with.

Until SC2...

*
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 14 2010 06:32 GMT
#2
If all I used windows for was a wordprocessor and several basic media players, I'd probably never have trouble either. Unfortunately my needs expand beyond that
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
kazokun
Profile Joined April 2008
United States163 Posts
February 14 2010 06:34 GMT
#3
this is some commie bullshit. everyone knows windows runs well if you don't suck at using it. delete your linux partition and put windows 7 on it. you no longer have an excuse not to.
Who wants to be a dragon when you can be Anytime? - Fontong
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
February 14 2010 06:46 GMT
#4
On February 14 2010 15:34 kazokun wrote:
this is some commie bullshit. everyone knows windows runs well if you don't suck at using it. delete your linux partition and put windows 7 on it. you no longer have an excuse not to.


yeah, what are you, a socialist? GOSH
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada719 Posts
February 14 2010 07:15 GMT
#5
WARNING: incoming wall of text and slight rant

For several months I had become accustomed to running Windows 24/7

Ever since I got my laptop I have run Windows on my desktop and Linux on my laptop. I consider it a fact of life that I do just want to run some things in Windows. More recently I've begun dual booting my laptop with Windows so that I can use Office 2007 (and a few other things) when I'm at school or on the road. A small FAT32 partition at the end of the drive holds things that I need to use in both environments.

checking my email in a browser instead of Pine

I like Thunderbird. If you like Pine, you could always run it on your Linux box (alongside irssi of course) and ssh into that. Personally Mutt is my command line email client of choice, but there's no accounting for some people's taste.

transferring files with a graphical SFTP client (lol drag drop for noobs) instead of 'scp', and doing remote logins with putty instead of just 'ssh'

The PuTTy suite includes PSCP and PSFTP, both command line applications that operate very similarly to their counterparts from the OpenSSH suite.

I was adjusting to a different lifestyle with different standards. System unresponsiveness was becoming a standard. Using shitty applications that hog system resources was becoming a standard. Crashes, forced halts, and degraded performance were becoming a standard. Even Starcraft lagged (wtf!?).

You can't blame Windows for this. Don't use the Windows CD that comes with your computer - get an OEM or Retail disc with a recent service pack slipstreamed and just add your drivers after install. Don't install a million and one apps that stay running all the time and suck up memory. It's completely possible to have a stable and relatively efficient Windows XP installation. If you have more than two or three icons in your system tray, there's a very good chance that you have several things running that don't need to be.

Pro tip: antivirus/antispyware/firewall programs are the biggest source of system slowdowns. Take responsibility for your own computer's safety instead of assuming that some algorithm can do the same job.

Today my Windows box got a virus. TaskManager wouldn't run. Command Prompt wouldn't run. SafeMode wouldn't work. FUCK THIS SHIT.

I'm sure it was incredibly important that you download and run that sketchy executable from that equally sketchy eastern european or chinese site. I'm sorry, but you won't get much sympathy from me on this. A little more if it was something more obscure like Adobe Reader and a JavaScript vulnerability; but still not much. FWIW I have been using Windows since 98 was released, have never used an antivirus, and have never had a virus. It's a simple matter of not running code or scripts that you don't trust.

for some reason I just couldn't build up the nerve to taint this one proud machine I had built up from scraps by my own toil; I could not taint with the evil that Microsoft spews.

Poetic. What do you have against Microsoft, anyway? Have you ever considered that companies that publish shitty and barely tested drivers/crapware/"value-add" should get at least as much blame for the state of a typical Windows install?

I feel like I should write some sort of conclusion here but I don't really know what else to say. Please don't take the above as hostile or trying to insult you; I just really feel like you're using your Windows in a really suboptimal way, and that's what's causing you to have a bad experience with it. If there's an overall point that I'm trying to make that Windows on its own is stable and performs quite well -- it's all of the programs and cruft that OEMs and endusers install onto it that slow it down and make it unstable.
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
Lokomis
Profile Joined July 2009
United States72 Posts
February 14 2010 07:18 GMT
#6
I've run SC:BW w/ ICCUP launcher under Wine in *nix with never a hitch. VMs are another option for gaming but I've never used them for more than building a system to test before exporting it to another box. To me, these days, Windows is little more than the propriety software needed to make a computer a game console. If more games were produced to run natively on *nix I would abandon Windows completely.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
February 14 2010 07:32 GMT
#7
R1ch wrote an excellent guide regarding securing your PC. You should never have virus issues as a Windows user as long as you take the proper precautions and don't do anything stupid.
Liquipedia
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
February 14 2010 07:46 GMT
#8
I would have been impressed if you hadn't mentioned the blue LEDs -.-;
6581
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
February 14 2010 08:13 GMT
#9
Helpful (or idiotic) comments aside, this blog has nothing to do with software. Please read it as a parable.

It's about staying faithful to the one that was always faithful to you. It's about staying true to your principles and not selling out for perks in the short run.

It's about honor. It's about truth.

It's about blue shiny LEDs and a strange attraction between man and machine.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
February 14 2010 09:03 GMT
#10
So in other words, it's basically like all the other girl blogs on here, minus the girl.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
February 14 2010 17:24 GMT
#11
On February 14 2010 18:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:
So in other words, it's basically like all the other girl blogs on here, minus the girl.


is it really? aren't those more about lacking confidence or misreading signs or being friendzoned than sticking to your guns?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft456
ProTech52
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 570
NaDa 19
Bale 8
Mong 3
Dota 2
syndereN853
Counter-Strike
Foxcn146
Super Smash Bros
PPMD63
Liquid`Ken30
Other Games
summit1g7602
Day[9].tv344
C9.Mang0166
RotterdaM118
ViBE109
Maynarde71
Trikslyr60
CosmosSc2 51
Mew2King43
nookyyy 37
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV51
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 98
• RyuSc2 37
• davetesta17
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22379
League of Legends
• Doublelift3400
Other Games
• imaqtpie2124
• Scarra719
• Day9tv344
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
10h 42m
ByuN vs Creator
Clem vs Rogue
Scarlett vs Spirit
ShoWTimE vs Cure
OSC
13h 42m
Big Brain Bouts
16h 42m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
CranKy Ducklings
1d 9h
WardiTV 2025
1d 10h
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
1d 12h
Ladder Legends
1d 18h
BSL 21
1d 19h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.