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The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
February 06 2010 20:21 GMT
#21
or save up for later...-_-;
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
February 06 2010 20:25 GMT
#22
thing about your i7 anything above 4 ghz is useless. There is a physical sealing that is reached at 3ghz ish. Silicon cant actually transmit that fast, so anything after 3ghz is less effective. IE, the difference between 2.2ghz-2.8 is a lot bigger than 3ghz - 4ghz (speed wise).

You could just remove the overclocking, or bring it down to 3.5 ghz or 3.6 ghz to save electricity.
^______________^
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
February 06 2010 20:38 GMT
#23
On February 07 2010 05:25 Dgtl wrote:
thing about your i7 anything above 4 ghz is useless. There is a physical sealing that is reached at 3ghz ish. Silicon cant actually transmit that fast, so anything after 3ghz is less effective. IE, the difference between 2.2ghz-2.8 is a lot bigger than 3ghz - 4ghz (speed wise).

You could just remove the overclocking, or bring it down to 3.5 ghz or 3.6 ghz to save electricity.

lol
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
February 06 2010 20:40 GMT
#24
On February 07 2010 05:25 Dgtl wrote:
thing about your i7 anything above 4 ghz is useless. There is a physical sealing that is reached at 3ghz ish. Silicon cant actually transmit that fast, so anything after 3ghz is less effective. IE, the difference between 2.2ghz-2.8 is a lot bigger than 3ghz - 4ghz (speed wise).

You could just remove the overclocking, or bring it down to 3.5 ghz or 3.6 ghz to save electricity.

I don't believe you. There is a noticable performance increase between 3.5ghz and 4ghz. And also with watercooling there is no reason to NOT go to 4ghz.
U Gotta Skate.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 06 2010 20:42 GMT
#25
i trade 400mhz for an SSD anyday.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
February 06 2010 20:47 GMT
#26
Waste of money when you already have such a beast of a machine :-/
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 20:48:17
February 06 2010 20:47 GMT
#27
12 gb ram very very nice ^^

need to upgrade to 300 gb raptors though ^^
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 20:54:42
February 06 2010 20:52 GMT
#28
On February 07 2010 05:47 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
12 gb ram very very nice ^^

need to upgrade to 300 gb raptors though ^^

Right now i'm thinking of getting a couple of RAM fans, because my RAM gets pretty hot when running right now (at 2166 right now) my XCLIO 2000 has like 1000+cm of fans on it.
U Gotta Skate.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
February 06 2010 20:58 GMT
#29
For games? Completely pointless there will be no difference.

What is the difference between HD5970, and HD5970+HD5850 in performance?

The thing that would give you a boost are SSD.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
February 06 2010 20:58 GMT
#30


sry to be a dick but you should really spend your money on something else.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 06 2010 22:44 GMT
#31
Assuming same reliability (not necessarily true, hdd's are older tech and imo slightly more reliable), for the same price as the 160 gb ssd (550 on newegg), you can run raid0 striped raptors. That'll help the performance in terms of speed, and you'll have 600 gb of storage (better storage/dollar, but we all knew hdd>ssd for that kind of number).

SSD is nice, but that test in the youtube video isn't really fair to the raptor - we all know that ssd's over random write are better, just because with no moving parts there is practically 0 seek time. However, if you're doing continuous transfer, hdd's look a lot better. Kind of depends what you're doing

tl;dr version:
both have advantages/disadvantages, but the raptors don't look as bad for mixtures of normal usage as the above video makes it look.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-06 22:57:04
February 06 2010 22:51 GMT
#32
When you have 3000$ to spend on bi xeon and 12gb ram with fans ( l o l ), money isn't an issue.

edit: + arguing that raptors are better than SSD is ridiculous. They are clearly inferior.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
February 06 2010 22:53 GMT
#33
SSD is nice, but that test in the youtube video isn't really fair to the raptor - we all know that ssd's over random write are better, just because with no moving parts there is practically 0 seek time. However, if you're doing continuous transfer, hdd's look a lot better. Kind of depends what you're doing

It's fair, and you're wrong. SSD's sustained speeds have overtaken even enterprise level HDDs a while ago.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
February 06 2010 23:53 GMT
#34
SSDs are more reliable too
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
February 07 2010 00:24 GMT
#35
Such an expensive pc and no SSD LMAO. WASTE OF FUCKING MONEY.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
February 07 2010 00:50 GMT
#36
On February 07 2010 05:14 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2010 05:06 Fontong wrote:
What can't that computer run? Why in the world would you need to upgrade it?

It just seems like you would be better off saving the money, even if it was to buy a new computer next year using the latest in components. The benefit is so low for upgrading an already stellar rig.

Basically it's e-peen, I also just enjoy seeing games turned all the way up at massive resolutions .


Yeah i enjoy max settings on nice games too... That's why i got a 4870 1GB!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11563 Posts
February 07 2010 00:57 GMT
#37
buy a $4000 1tb ssd

ez
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
February 07 2010 02:30 GMT
#38
What kind of monitor do you run with that thing? 30", 27" ? What res? 2560*1600?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-07 02:40:14
February 07 2010 02:38 GMT
#39
On February 07 2010 07:44 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Assuming same reliability (not necessarily true, hdd's are older tech and imo slightly more reliable), for the same price as the 160 gb ssd (550 on newegg), you can run raid0 striped raptors. That'll help the performance in terms of speed, and you'll have 600 gb of storage (better storage/dollar, but we all knew hdd>ssd for that kind of number).

SSD is nice, but that test in the youtube video isn't really fair to the raptor - we all know that ssd's over random write are better, just because with no moving parts there is practically 0 seek time. However, if you're doing continuous transfer, hdd's look a lot better. Kind of depends what you're doing

tl;dr version:
both have advantages/disadvantages, but the raptors don't look as bad for mixtures of normal usage as the above video makes it look.

Not the one in the youtube vid that was a Intel SSD they are high quality like any good fast hdd sata 2 is the leading cause of caps in speed. Intels drives are capped by sata 2 in reads as long as you don't buy their vaule ones which don't do the max of sata2 250mb/s read speed. But writing is were SSD is bad at only good writing ssd are the super expensive ones like intels E editions which go up to 180mb/s which is quite fast.

But lets face it ghost claw people don't use SSD are storage drives they use massive 2tb drives to store 1000 movies or something like that, something that will show continual large file writes are slow on even a good ssd.

The disadvantage of a good ssd are cost per gig is still very high.
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
February 07 2010 04:13 GMT
#40
I hope the new computer blows up on you. I genuinely think flushing your money down the toilet, killing fish and water birds on its way, is a smarter option.
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