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This Iccup season so far has been very depressing. Not even a month in, and I haven't made much progress, reaching mid C- than falling back down to practically D+(3000 points). So far since 2010 started, I have won 1 game. Yes a single game and that was a game against a B terran, but also a training buddy. I have played him enough to know his playstyle so it would be difficult to replicate this win again if I tried. Replay is here http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=27542
Here’s some dreadful statistics now. I reached C- on December 29th. I have played 20 ladder games at the C- level, all on Fighting Spirit. I went 6-14. Overall PvT is my strongest matchup by far 12-4, then my pvz 12-16, and lastly PvP which is 5-16. I honestly don’t know how I reached C- with such horrid stats. I have not even played 100 ladder games yet which means I haven’t spammed my rank. I have to put that behind me though, because if I am going to reach a higher rank this season, I can’t dwell over my losses and bad record but I can look toward the future and what I learned from these losses and here’s what I came up with.
High was B- Game 1 FengQingYang(P) vs TeH_Mentalist(P) Replay found http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=27635
He starts off with a dt rush. I start out with 2 gate+observer build. I find counter his dts and prepared units for a counter attack. I underestimated the timing range I had and just took an expansion. Than I tried to harass with a reaver, I had shuttle speed and 2 reavers that delayed my tech too much. This gambit didn’t pay off and I barely inflicted economic damage to myself. The advantage that I had in early game was gone, and I had let him back into the game. I should have attacked right after I got a second observer instead of making a shuttle and 2 reavers.
Game 2 Currently C+ right now Braintime(Z) vs TeH_Mentalist(P) Replay found http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=27636
Zerg loses an ovie, very careless mistake early game to cannons. He than runs by and sneaks in 7 zerglings. I feel like I’m fucked right now and I lose 8 probes. We are pretty even at this point. My corsairs spots mutalisks. I put up plenty of defenses, but neglect to send a corsair for a routinely scout. I didn’t see a third gas, and 2 evo chambers, and lurkers morphing. As a result, I become contained. This is the mistake I make. After breaking out of the contain, I should have secured a third base. Failing to secure a third base, I didn’t have a third gas and couldn’t compete late game with the zerg. I also failed at learning the map, because the 4th gas of zerg was unspotted till too late. I learned 3 base zerg vs 2 base toss leaves zerg in a better economnical advantage.
Game 3 kogarasumaru(P) vs TeH_Mentalist(P) Replay found
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=27637
I lost because my gateway count was too low. I failed to add gateways at the correct time. I still have yet to know when to add them.
Game 4 High B LRM)Choosy(Z) vs TeH_Mentalist(P) Replay found
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=27638
I was in a pretty big lead, countering his early muta opening with a speed/archon rush with corsairs to his third base, which was extended far out to a hard to defend place. Right before my cannons warped in, he came in with lurkers and zerglings and took down my third base which set me back a ton. I should have started dragoon production sooner than making all of those high templar. Suitable number of storms you need is from 2-5 theres not really much use for storm any higher than 5. With incorrect unit combination I couldn’t break his defenses early on. That costed me as when I realized what I was doing wrong, it was too late and he had swarm and half the map. There wasn’t much I could do and I felt contained and didn’t know what I could do economically or what to win the game. What I could have done was have better unit control and storms, and also keep a look out for where he was expanding to so I could stop him from expanding before it became too hard.
The rest of the games are pretty much the same, losing to a high ranked player because I didn’t know my timings well enough in PvP, was too indecisive and not aware of the map in PvZ, or overall passively aggressive and not active enough to cover the map. This looks honestly pretty depressing because now I have been kicked so far down to almost D+(with 3000 points). It doesn’t feel like I’m learning anything or learning fast enough to make a difference even though I know when I know enough, all this will click into place and I will spring to C.
I really hope even though I have been losing a lot, that this will all turn out good in the future and so I can be gosu!
Edit: I'd also like to add that I played 29 hours of starcraft during my christmas break and 20 hours of Osu! too
 
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You're still B- in my mind
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The same thing has been happening to me. I got to D+ really easily at the beginning of the season, but then I lost a bunch of games and now I can barely hold a high D rank. It sucks to lose so much after you thought you were doing really well.
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As long as you arent slumping to the D- ranks you're alright, the game is still evolving all it takes is time and dedication.
*cough* chava *cough*
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On January 04 2010 09:12 Monokeros wrote:
As long as you arent slumping to the D- ranks you're alright, the game is still evolving all it takes is time and dedication.
*cough* chava *cough*
Even the D- ranks have something to slump to. That new computer and mosue icon haha
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The season is still very young and only the D/D+ ranks are mostly D/D+ skill. i played 1 acc on C and have 2 on C- with offrace and even with my mainrace its actually very hard to get the 2nd acc on C. if you have bad luck you play the wrong people resulting in lose. yesterday i just played 2 koreans on D+ with highrank A-/A (multiple seasons =(
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On January 04 2010 09:15 MeProU_Kor wrote:
The season is still very young and only the D/D+ ranks are mostly D/D+ skill. i played 1 acc on C and have 2 on C- with offrace and even with my mainrace its actually very hard to get the 2nd acc on C. if you have bad luck you play the wrong people resulting in lose. yesterday i just played 2 koreans on D+ with highrank A-/A (multiple seasons =(
I really don't mind playing really high people, than I know for sure i was outskilled and there's something to learn from the game, but it still is depressing losing those points  Why do we lose 75 at Yellow compared with 50 at red?
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On January 04 2010 09:18 TeH_Mentalist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2010 09:15 MeProU_Kor wrote:
The season is still very young and only the D/D+ ranks are mostly D/D+ skill. i played 1 acc on C and have 2 on C- with offrace and even with my mainrace its actually very hard to get the 2nd acc on C. if you have bad luck you play the wrong people resulting in lose. yesterday i just played 2 koreans on D+ with highrank A-/A (multiple seasons =( I really don't mind playing really high people, than I know for sure i was outskilled and there's something to learn from the game, but it still is depressing losing those points Why do we lose 75 at Yellow compared with 50 at red?
i think u cant learn anything when the skill gap is that huge that when u see the rep
u dont even know what was the important mistake u had, cause will be a lot
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On January 04 2010 09:37 Re-Play- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2010 09:18 TeH_Mentalist wrote:On January 04 2010 09:15 MeProU_Kor wrote:
The season is still very young and only the D/D+ ranks are mostly D/D+ skill. i played 1 acc on C and have 2 on C- with offrace and even with my mainrace its actually very hard to get the 2nd acc on C. if you have bad luck you play the wrong people resulting in lose. yesterday i just played 2 koreans on D+ with highrank A-/A (multiple seasons =( I really don't mind playing really high people, than I know for sure i was outskilled and there's something to learn from the game, but it still is depressing losing those points Why do we lose 75 at Yellow compared with 50 at red? i think u cant learn anything when the skill gap is that huge that when u see the rep u dont even know what was the important mistake u had, cause will be a lot
I usually look at the main thing that gave the game to the other player
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I think you are concentrating on too many things at once, trying to improve too many things at once. Instead focus on one thing at a time.
Instead of training/working harder, you train/work smarter ^^. And you will achieve the same result quicker than just mass gaming and watching your reps.
I think the reason you are confused about why you aren't improving is because you have no aim or goal in each game. You just want to win. But instead what you must do is first focus on just pure macro/executing a certain build. Then when you feel like you can do that consistently and easily, you move on to analysing your build and checking where/when your opponents are weak etc. Then when you can do that, you have a very refined build and you also understand how it works and when it doesn't work.
Like for example I watched your PvT versus the B training partner. You were doing fine, macroing and securing expos around the map. But after that you just lost focus and eventually asked him "What do I do?!" and he told you to kill Terran's economy (I really felt like he gave you that game at that point but whatever). Things like this you miss because you are just playing game after game and not really stopping to think, what should I do, or what would a progamer do here?
You have good mechanics but lack the direction and focus, which is why you are starting to question yourself and feel like you have reached a plateau.
Also it's really good to study the other races as well, I use to be a terran player and switched to protoss now so I understand the weakness and strengths of the Terran army. For example your training partner said he could of killed him numerous times already, but you just kept persisting with trying to kill his ground army, but then he told you how to win and you did it. That is an example of not understanding your enemy.
It's things like that where you will start to see results, you've got the execution of the build do, you just don't know exactly why you're doing it, that's where you gotta work on next and it's where you'll start seeing some results and wins ;D
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On January 04 2010 10:13 ToyotaDemon wrote:
I think you are concentrating on too many things at once, trying to improve too many things at once. Instead focus on one thing at a time.
Instead of training/working harder, you train/work smarter ^^. And you will achieve the same result quicker than just mass gaming and watching your reps.
I think the reason you are confused about why you aren't improving is because you have no aim or goal in each game. You just want to win. But instead what you must do is first focus on just pure macro/executing a certain build. Then when you feel like you can do that consistently and easily, you move on to analysing your build and checking where/when your opponents are weak etc. Then when you can do that, you have a very refined build and you also understand how it works and when it doesn't work.
Like for example I watched your PvT versus the B training partner. You were doing fine, macroing and securing expos around the map. But after that you just lost focus and eventually asked him "What do I do?!" and he told you to kill Terran's economy (I really felt like he gave you that game at that point but whatever). Things like this you miss because you are just playing game after game and not really stopping to think, what should I do, or what would a progamer do here?
You have good mechanics but lack the direction and focus, which is why you are starting to question yourself and feel like you have reached a plateau.
Also it's really good to study the other races as well, I use to be a terran player and switched to protoss now so I understand the weakness and strengths of the Terran army. For example your training partner said he could of killed him numerous times already, but you just kept persisting with trying to kill his ground army, but then he told you how to win and you did it. That is an example of not understanding your enemy.
It's things like that where you will start to see results, you've got the execution of the build do, you just don't know exactly why you're doing it, that's where you gotta work on next and it's where you'll start seeing some results and wins ;D
Amen that's exactly how I feel down to the very last point. I have tried to offrace a little bit, zvp and tvp, like in tvp trying to understand where a terran's weak spots are even if I can't see any from a protoss's point of view, I will see them from a Terran's point of view and what it takes for a zerg to tech transition inbetween hydras, mutas, and lurkers. I can't really find much information and that's where I try to mass game to find out about this stuff, but ya I really have to think about what I need to do in a game to win and why I'm doing it and why I will win because of what I did T_T and watch more progamer games, I have been neglecting that as well
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