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biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 21:33:26
December 31 2009 21:28 GMT
#1
so i got windows 7 on my new laptop

if you're interested then write a list of things that bother you about it , and possible fixess

the main thing that comes to mind is this

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another thing, how the hell do you get msn to stay in the tray like it does in other versions of windows? as you can see in screenshot, msn just stays on the taskbar all the time even when you cross it off

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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 31 2009 21:31 GMT
#2
does it play sc fine? Its probably the only reason thats stopping me from installing windows 7 lol
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biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
December 31 2009 21:33 GMT
#3
dunno yet sorry
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
December 31 2009 21:37 GMT
#4
Yeah I hate that too.

But seriously the fact that you can no longer drag folders to the sides of the desktop and make quick lists is really retarded. Now I have to take like thirty clicks to make it to folders i commonly use.

And i have 0 idea how the taskbar is supposed to make things easier. In xp it was just simple worded bars for programs (or whatever you want to call them) Now its entirely thumbnails and it GROUPS EVERYTHING which means if you have multiple windows of a program open you have to click multiple times to open just one of them - RETARDED. Of course you can choose to make the taskbar the same as vista/xp if you want but I dont see how they can say it makes the OS easier to use..
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
December 31 2009 21:38 GMT
#5
i think msn just stays in taskbar..because I can't get mine to go away either

as for SC. It works fine on mine but the colors kept inverting. However, I found a batch file thing that fixes it so it works fine now...even though I rarely play SC anymore
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 21:50:12
December 31 2009 21:41 GMT
#6
For MSN to fix it, go into program folders and find the msn .exe file, right click it and run it in compatability mode for XP or Vista.

For the taskbar poping up you'd understand it if you left the theme as the W7 theme instead of the windows 2000 theme. It works decently but is far from making anything easier. I believe there is a setting when you right click the taskbar and go to properties. It might be ungroup programs or something

Edit: I dont think I read your question right the first time, this prob doesnt fix anything
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
December 31 2009 21:59 GMT
#7
okay thanks, i right click troubleshooted to change live msns compatibility, it appears as only one window now, but when i cross it off to minimise it just closes (or beome unaccessable)

i cnt-alt-deleted to bring up task manager to find it, but i must have pressed something....

now task manager is just showing as a frame which shows the running programs but NO options or title bar or anything...its just a frame. wth. probably fix when i reboot

Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 31 2009 22:00 GMT
#8
Right click taskbar. Head into Properties and change Taskbar buttons to Never combine. That way it won't combine like that.

And as previously said, for MSN just run in compatability mode.
God Bless
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
December 31 2009 22:03 GMT
#9
OH YEAH THATS THE OTHER THING

you cant fucking alt-tab properly anymore, it takes about a second to load it. unless its my new laptop that has slow or unusual key responses. if i try to alt tab quickly 6 times, letting go each time, only 2-3 of them will work. anyone else?
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
December 31 2009 22:04 GMT
#10
On January 01 2010 07:00 Roffles wrote:
Right click taskbar. Head into Properties and change Taskbar buttons to Never combine. That way it won't combine like that.

And as previously said, for MSN just run in compatability mode.


this isnt my problem , you probably realise.
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
December 31 2009 22:17 GMT
#11
another issue i have occainally,

why do page up/ page down seem to not work most of the time on laptops (my moms and mine, acer)

i try clicking around but they still dont work99
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
December 31 2009 22:34 GMT
#12
On January 01 2010 07:03 biomedical wrote:
OH YEAH THATS THE OTHER THING

you cant fucking alt-tab properly anymore, it takes about a second to load it. unless its my new laptop that has slow or unusual key responses. if i try to alt tab quickly 6 times, letting go each time, only 2-3 of them will work. anyone else?

No problem to me, seems that your lap is kinda buggy or smth :/

Also i don't understand why you're using "classical" composition, is it really that hard to get used to new Aero ones? They're pretty cool, and i have no problems like you with these.

Also try pressing windows key + tab, good alternative for alt+tab
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
December 31 2009 22:43 GMT
#13
windows tab takes me to top of webpage, doesnt do anything else...


that aero thing was the most disgusting and interefereing thing ive ever seen in my ENTIRE LIFE
it is absolutely unecessary and detracts in 100000e600 ways
i cant believe those words just came out of your mouth
are you a dragon?
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
December 31 2009 22:47 GMT
#14
No, i am a person who is not afraid of changes like most people who would like W7 to be Windows XP+ ... I really find NO flaw in aero but it is eye-candy, unlike "classic" (archaic IMO) composition. Come on times are changing, i've been using for like 10 years similar composition which was slightly changing since times of Windows 98 :| Time for something nice, like this one

That's weird that windows+tab doesn't work, maybe it works only in professional or x64 then.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 31 2009 22:49 GMT
#15
Oh man, your comp is buggy as hell then. Try a fresh install.
God Bless
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 31 2009 22:53 GMT
#16
I'm on Professional 64 bit Win7 and I'll say tat my Windows+Tab only takes me to the top of the page as well. Although I'm not using Aero either, so that might be the reason.
God Bless
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
December 31 2009 22:57 GMT
#17
yeah in aero it does the cool flipping through open windows thing
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
December 31 2009 23:02 GMT
#18
wait what happened to the new superbar, or that new task bar with the mac osx like bar at the bottom?
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5498 Posts
December 31 2009 23:27 GMT
#19
its basically the windows XP/Vista taskbar but with large icons instead of window names and it groups programs automatically...nothing more
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 31 2009 23:37 GMT
#20
I'm blaming not being able to use the ICCup TV (replay thing) plugin in Chaoslauncher on Windows 7 until it either works or I find something better to blame.
:)
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 23:48:04
December 31 2009 23:47 GMT
#21
On January 01 2010 08:27 jimminy_kriket wrote:
its basically the windows XP/Vista taskbar but with large icons instead of window names and it groups programs automatically...nothing more

Ya. Nothing more except for several features that didn't exist before?
This is a link to an OS X dock comparison to Windows 7 bar but it explains a lot of the new features as well. http://gizmodo.com/5131933/giz-explains-why-the-windows-7-taskbar-beats-mac-os-xs-dock
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HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
December 31 2009 23:47 GMT
#22
Death to eye candy. All it does is slow things down.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 00:06:50
January 01 2010 00:05 GMT
#23
hey man i do never combine, quick launch, small icons, windows classic theme too!

and dont blame the os for your slow laptop man
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 01 2010 00:15 GMT
#24
I have a windows 7 disc right beside my computer and I'm waiting till it works fine with Starcraft before installing it.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 01 2010 00:57 GMT
#25
SC works 100% fine here

I like the new taskbar, it's basically like a dock so now I have one less program to install. I recommend turning off Aero though, I found that it really overheated my laptop (no I don't have a crappy computer) and of course, turning off UAC.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 16:02:15
January 01 2010 01:01 GMT
#26
For me there several things that really didn't like in W7 (using XP SP2 now).

1) there is no way to make DOS command prompt window go fullscreen - it stops me from playing any rougelikes (ie.: DoomRL or ADOM).
2) Searching is still sooo slow, thou it's better than original XP's search, but WHY can't they make it right is beyond me.(actually W7 search is good) On XP I use program designed to work in windows 95 and 98 - PowerDesk (freeware) that can search 10! times faster than normal XP search.
3) On a somewheat decent laptop ( P8400 2GBram ) *without* Aero interface, XP starts faster
4) I'm one of this "lucky guys" who have to keep Personalization window on when starting SC, for colors not to go berzerk.
Death to eye candy. All it does is slow things down.
One cannot out-kwanro Kwanro. -Trap
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 01 2010 01:57 GMT
#27
On January 01 2010 07:53 Roffles wrote:
I'm on Professional 64 bit Win7 and I'll say tat my Windows+Tab only takes me to the top of the page as well. Although I'm not using Aero either, so that might be the reason.

Yes windows+tab flip thing is an aero feature, disabling aero disables some of the stuff in windows 7
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 02:13:19
January 01 2010 02:08 GMT
#28
On January 01 2010 10:01 Nao wrote:
For me there several things that really didn't like in W7 (using XP SP2 now).

1) there is no way to make DOS command prompt window go fullscreen - it stops me from playing any rougelikes (ie.: DoomRL or ADOM).
2) Searching is still sooo slow, thou it's better than original XP's search, but WHY can't they make it right is beyond me. On XP I use program designed to work in windows 95 and 98 - PowerDesk (freeware) that can search 10! times faster
3) On a somewheat decent laptop ( P8400 2GBram ) *without* Aero interface, XP starts faster
4) I'm one of this "lucky guys" who have to keep Personalization window on when starting SC, for colors not to go berzerk.
Show nested quote +
Death to eye candy. All it does is slow things down.

If you don't want eye candy why aren't you running windows 98 that's even more stable and reliable and faster then XP. There is more windows 7 then ignorant fools realise.

You slower boot is likely to a shitty HDD and bios, my boot for windows 7 x64 is 11 seconds 6 of those seconds are looking at a bois boot up everything and i'm just running seagate 7200.12 hdd's. Searches are faster in windows 7 (near instant for me) i have a proper ACHI set up and have indexing turned on along with multiple hdd's searching takes little time, that's HDD dependent and settings dependent.

Anyways windows 7 handles threaded apps better. and windows 8 which will be in the works soon will handle it even more better. Matters little to a laptop but running a i7 920 with 8 threads you can tell the difference. You'll notice larger and larger performance drops as more cores are introduced. but seeing as you run laptops and a play dos rouge like games i say you care a little about new games and the things peopel care about.

Also The P8400 is a decent cpu for a laptop but it's a powersaver it runs off of 24w or something and 2gigs is scraping by now of days in terms of ram.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
January 01 2010 02:15 GMT
#29
On January 01 2010 10:01 Nao wrote:
For me there several things that really didn't like in W7 (using XP SP2 now).

1) there is no way to make DOS command prompt window go fullscreen - it stops me from playing any rougelikes (ie.: DoomRL or ADOM).
2) Searching is still sooo slow, thou it's better than original XP's search, but WHY can't they make it right is beyond me. On XP I use program designed to work in windows 95 and 98 - PowerDesk (freeware) that can search 10! times faster
3) On a somewheat decent laptop ( P8400 2GBram ) *without* Aero interface, XP starts faster
4) I'm one of this "lucky guys" who have to keep Personalization window on when starting SC, for colors not to go berzerk.
Show nested quote +
Death to eye candy. All it does is slow things down.


For number 1, it's easy just right click the top of the window and go to properties. Change the screen size and buffer size.
twitter: @terrancem
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
January 01 2010 03:24 GMT
#30
If your hardware supports Aero do not disable it for performance sake. Running on Aero on hardware that supports is faster than Basic. Aero uses hardware acceleration but Basic does not.
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
January 01 2010 04:00 GMT
#31
windows 7 sucks
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
January 01 2010 05:34 GMT
#32
Windows 7 rocks.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
January 01 2010 06:06 GMT
#33
On January 01 2010 14:34 TOloseGT wrote:
Windows 7 rocks.

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t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
January 01 2010 06:54 GMT
#34
guys, this is Chibi[owns]

search him TL

lol this is so epic to watch, how long until he gets banned rofl
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Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
January 01 2010 15:58 GMT
#35
On January 01 2010 11:08 Virtue wrote:
If you don't want eye candy why aren't you running windows 98 that's even more stable and reliable and faster than XP.
Win 98 is not faster than XP, (i actually have it installed on VirtualPC) and even on hardware it was designed for it wasn't so stable. (on current hardware is even worse :/ )
Searches are faster in windows 7 (near instant for me)
Oops i didn't see W7 had better serching than Vista (i didnt actually check it), so i take my flaming back , W7 search is really good.

Actually i didn't know W7 on new hardware can start in 11s, nice performance
On January 01 2010 11:08 Virtue wrote:
but seeing as you run laptops and a play dos rouge like games i say you care a little about new games and the things peopel care about.
Yeah, it's true i don't play new mainstream games anymore, so for me XP is sufficient for everything i do. (ie: SC, Osu, photoshop, 3d design programs, indie games, browsing net with 50-100open tabs, video-editing) and Win7 interface is too unintuitive.

@GogoKodo

Well there is no full screen option in properities, and doing alt-enter gives me an error message "this sytem does not support full screen mode" (W7 Ultimate)
One cannot out-kwanro Kwanro. -Trap
Sulli
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada236 Posts
January 01 2010 16:29 GMT
#36
Windows7 has been pretty good for me, loads quick and I find the taskbar intuitive (I use firefox tabs extensively, so I never really have a lot of windows open at one time anyways).

I do have one issue though, and it's my mouse scroll not working. I can click it as my middle button and it works, but scrolling of any kind doesn't work for me. I have a ladybug logitech mini optical from way back when. I got the latest SetPoint driver, which is the recommended driver by logitech, but it didn't fix my scrolling issue as of now.

Just a warning to possible old logitech mouse users.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 01 2010 19:42 GMT
#37
On January 02 2010 00:58 Nao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2010 11:08 Virtue wrote:
If you don't want eye candy why aren't you running windows 98 that's even more stable and reliable and faster than XP.
Win 98 is not faster than XP, (i actually have it installed on VirtualPC) and even on hardware it was designed for it wasn't so stable. (on current hardware is even worse :/ )


erm if you're running it on a virtual machine of course it's going to be slower <_<
but 98 is pretty dated, and xp is getting there if you're using hardware from the last few years.

In general Windows 7's compatibility is also really good, I haven't had a single program that didn't run more or less perfectly on 7/xp mode/dosbox. If you spend some time to get used to it the interface is also really intuitive. I also like transparency effects ^_^. if you have gchat open then when it blinks the title bar for a new message you can see it through the all the other windows.
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Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
January 02 2010 00:07 GMT
#38
On January 02 2010 04:42 starfries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2010 00:58 Nao wrote:
On January 01 2010 11:08 Virtue wrote:
If you don't want eye candy why aren't you running windows 98 that's even more stable and reliable and faster than XP.
Win 98 is not faster than XP, (i actually have it installed on VirtualPC) and even on hardware it was designed for it wasn't so stable. (on current hardware is even worse :/ )
erm if you're running it on a virtual machine of course it's going to be slower <_<
but 98 is pretty dated, and xp is getting there if you're using hardware from the last few years.
Actually from my experiences with VirtualPC it should be slightly faster due to faster booting time, (once, for testing i installed XP in VPC running on another XP and there was no startup difference aside bootup.)
One cannot out-kwanro Kwanro. -Trap
celeste
Profile Joined January 2010
England45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-02 01:37:45
January 02 2010 01:37 GMT
#39
I installed Windows 7 on another partition and have only loaded it up 3 or so times.. I just couldn't be bothered to learn the layout and disable all the graphical crap when it seemingly had no worthwhile advantages over XP.

But people seem to love Win7 here.. why?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20008 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-02 01:58:57
January 02 2010 01:58 GMT
#40
On January 01 2010 11:08 Virtue wrote:
Also The P8400 is a decent cpu for a laptop but it's a powersaver it runs off of 24w or something and 2gigs is scraping by now of days in terms of ram.


uhhh....

also, never knew about windows + tab rofl. learn something new every day
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