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Does this really warrant a thread?
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its a blog idiot and stop posting 6 words in every strategy/blog thread.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 19 2009 19:16 meeple wrote:
Does this really warrant a thread?
This is what progaming is all about. The heart and soul poured into the game by the top players is what makes watching the game more compelling than it would be in a vacuum.
Just because it's not TLFE-quality writing doesn't mean we can't appreciate this blog writer's view of one moment of passion from a great player who came up short against his greatest rival on one particular night.
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Next thing you know, people are gonna be blogging about even stupider stuff like going to the restroom...
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On December 19 2009 19:22 writer22816 wrote:
Next thing you know, people are gonna be blogging about even stupider stuff like going to the restroom...
or maybe even girl advice
pfft lol that will never happen
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I actually sort of feel sorry for OP
I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU T-T
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On December 19 2009 19:23 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2009 19:22 writer22816 wrote:
Next thing you know, people are gonna be blogging about even stupider stuff like going to the restroom... or maybe even girl advice pfft lol that will never happen
lololololol
but dude seriously, i feel yah.
word for word O_O
i was rooting for flash to rape JD
but then i saw JD's expression -_-;;;
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I really like the Jaedong vs Flash rivalry. I particularly enjoy the fact that it stems from a level of balance between the players. Both JD and Flash are extremely mechanically proficient players who rarely miss a beat and are immaculate or flawless in terms of ingame actions. I was excited for the OSL match between these titans of modern StarCraft, and subsequently disappointed by the length and leaning of their first game.
As I viewed this thread I became really sad. I like the Jaedong vs Flash matchup and I appreciate and welcome discussion of it. I also consider myself a noob to TL having been posting here for barely a year and half. I feel that this OP could have contained insight into the JDvFlash rivalry. I also hoped that a thread with a topic so open to prolific discussion could contain some insight or perspective that I had not considered. It might have even contained something resembling proper capitalization. But when I clicked on it, you should have seen my face. I was so near to crying, I felt bad for ever clicking on this thread, and I started being angry for ever harboring the curiosity that led me to do so.
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When someone wins, someone else is supposed to lose.
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I was ofc rooting for Jaedong, but noone can deny flash looked to be a level above him last game, i hope Jd can bring something to the table next match.
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I totally know what you're feeling - i felt the same. I love both Flash and JD, last season when Flash was only in GOM i was cheering for JD in other individual leagues.
I'd like them to play some kinda "friendly BO5/BO7" someday
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On December 19 2009 19:33 thopol wrote:
I really like the Jaedong vs Flash rivalry. I particularly enjoy the fact that it stems from a level of balance between the players. Both JD and Flash are extremely mechanically proficient players who rarely miss a beat and are immaculate or flawless in terms of ingame actions. I was excited for the OSL match between these titans of modern StarCraft, and subsequently disappointed by the length and leaning of their first game.
As I viewed this thread I became really sad. I like the Jaedong vs Flash matchup and I appreciate and welcome discussion of it. I also consider myself a noob to TL having been posting here for barely a year and half. I feel that this OP could have contained insight into the JDvFlash rivalry. I also hoped that a thread with a topic so open to prolific discussion could contain some insight or perspective that I had not considered. It might have even contained something resembling proper capitalization. But when I clicked on it, you should have seen my face. I was so near to crying, I felt bad for ever clicking on this thread, and I started being angry for ever harboring the curiosity that led me to do so.
The day that every single fucking thread on TL contains as much information as you suggest is the day the internet implodes. Christ, who gives a shit.
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"Terran is fair" - Albert Einstein
Okay... it was ret.
The match itself was both disappointing and amazing. I was pretty sad after the match as a huge Jaedong fan but... I started following professional scene when the little monster started to reap everyone apart so it`s fantastic to see him put up by far the closest to perfection Starcraft play up to date... yet again.
Hopefully he can take some more titles soon because he definitely is the one deserving it.
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On December 19 2009 19:33 thopol wrote:
I really like the Jaedong vs Flash rivalry. I particularly enjoy the fact that it stems from a level of balance between the players. Both JD and Flash are extremely mechanically proficient players who rarely miss a beat and are immaculate or flawless in terms of ingame actions. I was excited for the OSL match between these titans of modern StarCraft, and subsequently disappointed by the length and leaning of their first game.
As I viewed this thread I became really sad. I like the Jaedong vs Flash matchup and I appreciate and welcome discussion of it. I also consider myself a noob to TL having been posting here for barely a year and half. I feel that this OP could have contained insight into the JDvFlash rivalry. I also hoped that a thread with a topic so open to prolific discussion could contain some insight or perspective that I had not considered. It might have even contained something resembling proper capitalization. But when I clicked on it, you should have seen my face. I was so near to crying, I felt bad for ever clicking on this thread, and I started being angry for ever harboring the curiosity that led me to do so.
i would like to write more, but since my english just blows i dont do it. the people who have english as there 1st language can do that job better than me. i can write u 2more sites on german why i feel sad for JD. that i always thought he is just a nerd who plays 24/7 with the aim to destroy everyone and flash is like my little brother and u just have to like him and such things but u wont understand it since it would be on german and this is an english site.
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I know what you mean. It's like, you are rooting for someone to crush the opponent so hard cuz you know the opponent is strong and can take it, but then when he actually crushes him so hard you are in shock about it and feel guilty and bad. And then when the person getting crushed shows sad emotions you feel even worse...as though you were the one to cause them. Ya..I guess I kinda felt something like that. You feel bad for them even though you wanted them to be crushed so hard with a hammer 1000000000 times to the head. Sigh.
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lol cute op.
they say no one practices harder than jaedong. except flash. or was it the other way around?
either way i expect nothing but the best next week, with both players respectively putting in over 100 hours practice time to beat their rival on Christmas day
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On December 19 2009 19:54 MeProU_Kor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2009 19:33 thopol wrote:
I really like the Jaedong vs Flash rivalry. I particularly enjoy the fact that it stems from a level of balance between the players. Both JD and Flash are extremely mechanically proficient players who rarely miss a beat and are immaculate or flawless in terms of ingame actions. I was excited for the OSL match between these titans of modern StarCraft, and subsequently disappointed by the length and leaning of their first game.
As I viewed this thread I became really sad. I like the Jaedong vs Flash matchup and I appreciate and welcome discussion of it. I also consider myself a noob to TL having been posting here for barely a year and half. I feel that this OP could have contained insight into the JDvFlash rivalry. I also hoped that a thread with a topic so open to prolific discussion could contain some insight or perspective that I had not considered. It might have even contained something resembling proper capitalization. But when I clicked on it, you should have seen my face. I was so near to crying, I felt bad for ever clicking on this thread, and I started being angry for ever harboring the curiosity that led me to do so. i would like to write more, but since my english just blows i dont do it. the people who have english as there 1st language can do that job better than me. i can write u 2more sites on german why i feel sad for JD. that i always thought he is just a nerd who plays 24/7 with the aim to destroy everyone and flash is like my little brother and u just have to like him and such things but u wont understand it since it would be on german and this is an english site.
lol for someone with english as a not-first language, you have a pretty good command of the slang. "fuck him flash. fuck him for the T race" lol 
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On December 19 2009 19:12 MeProU_Kor wrote:Dont read if u dont know the result! + Show Spoiler +After watching the VOD i feel really sad. Im a big Flash fan because im a Terran user myself but I always liked JD cause he plays so good and has some really nice attitude. while watching the vod i was like " fuck him flash, fuck him for the t race" and when he did so i was so happy but when they saw JDs face i felt really sad for him. he was so near to start crying and i started to be really angry on myself cause i cheered more for flash than for JD T_T
anyone had the same feelings?
i dont know wtf you people are talking about, Jaedong was nowhere near crying, He just looked tired, and all this talk about flash being a lvl above jadeong or whoever is bullshit. It was a straight-up build order loss, If you go 3 hatch and then sunks you cant defend a 3d base against a terran strategy that was made specifficaly to deny a 3d base, The game was over when jaedong had to cancel his 3d base for the first time, the rest of it he played while seriously behind and thats why it looked so onesided, the match doesn't mean very much and is not indicative of anything(excpet that flash makes very few mistakes), If flash wins the next game in simillarly dominant fashion then i'm going to be impressed. For now it's just a well executed strategy against a tired-looking jaedong
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I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.
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On December 19 2009 20:59 Myrkul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2009 19:12 MeProU_Kor wrote:Dont read if u dont know the result! + Show Spoiler +After watching the VOD i feel really sad. Im a big Flash fan because im a Terran user myself but I always liked JD cause he plays so good and has some really nice attitude. while watching the vod i was like " fuck him flash, fuck him for the t race" and when he did so i was so happy but when they saw JDs face i felt really sad for him. he was so near to start crying and i started to be really angry on myself cause i cheered more for flash than for JD T_T
anyone had the same feelings? i dont know wtf you people are talking about, Jaedong was nowhere near crying, He just looked tired, and all this talk about flash being a lvl above jadeong or whoever is bullshit. It was a straight-up build order loss, If you go 3 hatch and then sunks you cant defend a 3d base against a terran strategy that was made specifficaly to deny a 3d base, The game was over when jaedong had to cancel his 3d base for the first time, the rest of it he played while seriously behind and thats why it looked so onesided, the match doesn't mean very much and is not indicative of anything(excpet that flash makes very few mistakes), If flash wins the next game in simillarly dominant fashion then i'm going to be impressed. For now it's just a well executed strategy against a tired-looking jaedong
Well Jaedong is a complete dumbass then for using a build that would net him a BO loss against the best TvZer who has been using the exact same strategy and pretty much the same build since the start of R1 proleague.
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konadora
Singapore66360 Posts
Flash played so perfect in constantly denying Jaedong's third gas - the key to victory for ANY zergs (unless you're doing some all-in thing). Jaedong totally had no idea how to handle it, nor could he have expected such play by Flash (he should have gotten the hint after Flash vs ZerO though). This was Jaedong's game to lose, and Flash's game to win.
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I think the tears had less to do with Flash raping him, but that he got knocked out with such a poor performance. A defeat like that could wreck his confidence for matches to come, and will certainly overshadow their next encounter.
 How will Jdong play next time they meet? 4pool!?
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On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.
I personally dont see them as just "video-gamers". They sacrifice a big part of their life to practice Starcraft which definitely requires enormous amount of determination. I dont understand why would you be against perceiving them as athletes and cheering for them like fans of other sports do.
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On December 19 2009 19:44 Garnet wrote:
When someone wins, someone else is supposed to lose. its a fact, but its sometimes saddening when you dont want anyone to lose. for me its not just jd flash and other top players, but i feel for b-teamers who will never make it big but still pour their heart into practicing 12 hours a day because of their passion for the game; but i guess its like this in any professional sports
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On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down.
Uhh... this is what e-sport is supposed to be about =/.
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pfffft, obviously Jaedong threw that game only to make his next two rapes vs Flash all the much sweeter. that look on his face was a calculated and well delivered move to fool the fans. But I'm not falling for it, no sireee.
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i was both sad seeing my favorite zerg lose and shocked at how well flash played. that kid is a freaking monster right now. i do hope JD gets back on track and flash just keeps up his form as it is so we can keep on enjoying the games they play
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I felt really bad when Jaedong lost 
I almost didn't feel like continuing to watch the OSL games because of how bad I felt for Jaedong, but good thing I didn't stop because Calm and Movie cheered me up
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Jaedong seemed to be very upset with himself, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't crying. However, even if he gets his ass handed to him next week again, he will bounce back. He won't break down, you cannot win the OSL every time.
And he is playing really good starcraft recently. It is just that Flash right now is just playing unbelievable in two matchups.
But winning streaks and phases of domination always end sometimes. Oovs TvZ streak ended, Flashs 26-2 run in early 2008 ended, Bests insane PvP-streak ended, JD is back to 75% ZvZ, etc.
When you are watching Flash right now in TvZ and TvT, you can hardly imagine how he is going to lose with his build and decision-making ever again (besides getting raped in early-midgame like vs Hyun). But it will happen eventually. And I am sure JD will be right there waiting.
But I've gotten off-track. Bottom line. Don't feel too bad for JD, he will push through.
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Was I the only one who was jumping for joy at flash's victory?
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On December 19 2009 23:06 shurgen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down. Uhh... this is what e-sport is supposed to be about =/.
Yeah, I don't understand that at all. Sorry. Even if you consider it the equivalent of any sport, be it football or whatever it is, it is still extremely offputting. When someone becomes this emotionally involved in the performance of someone they don't know... that isn't a sign of a mentally healthy person. I enjoy watching football as well, but I don't become this upset when the team I am rooting for loses. I just watch it to enjoy myself. When someone takes it this far, it bothers me. People get upset, cry, and throw childish fits over their favorite team/player... seriously? Grow up. Posting shit like this thread makes TL look like it is full of children.
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...what? Sports fans all around the world become upset when their team loses or ecstatic when their team wins. You're saying these people aren't mentally healthy?
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On December 19 2009 23:57 RANDOMCL wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 19 2009 23:06 shurgen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down. Uhh... this is what e-sport is supposed to be about =/. Yeah, I don't understand that at all. Sorry. Even if you consider it the equivalent of any sport, be it football or whatever it is, it is still extremely offputting. When someone becomes this emotionally involved in the performance of someone they don't know... that isn't a sign of a mentally healthy person. I enjoy watching football as well, but I don't become this upset when the team I am rooting for loses. I just watch it to enjoy myself. When someone takes it this far, it bothers me. People get upset, cry, and throw childish fits over their favorite team/player... seriously? Grow up. Posting shit like this thread makes TL look like it is full of children.
wtf man. what site do you think you're on?
Anyways I always feel a little bad for Jaedong when he loses a big game because I know he practices his ass off for it. but when he wins you know he deserved it.
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On December 19 2009 23:44 Twilight Templar wrote:
Was I the only one who was jumping for joy at flash's victory?
Hell no. First thing I did after watching the VOD was rub it in my jaedong-fanboy friend's face.
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On December 19 2009 19:33 thopol wrote:
I really like the Jaedong vs Flash rivalry. I particularly enjoy the fact that it stems from a level of balance between the players. Both JD and Flash are extremely mechanically proficient players who rarely miss a beat and are immaculate or flawless in terms of ingame actions. I was excited for the OSL match between these titans of modern StarCraft, and subsequently disappointed by the length and leaning of their first game.
As I viewed this thread I became really sad. I like the Jaedong vs Flash matchup and I appreciate and welcome discussion of it. I also consider myself a noob to TL having been posting here for barely a year and half. I feel that this OP could have contained insight into the JDvFlash rivalry. I also hoped that a thread with a topic so open to prolific discussion could contain some insight or perspective that I had not considered. It might have even contained something resembling proper capitalization. But when I clicked on it, you should have seen my face. I was so near to crying, I felt bad for ever clicking on this thread, and I started being angry for ever harboring the curiosity that led me to do so.
When I see someone not using capitalization at all, I look at their nationality immediately. It usually prevents me from bringing up my inner pedantic raging.
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I wanted Flash to win, I don't care if it means destroying the other player.
Seriously, two seasons ago I was 15% TvZ on iCCup
I hate zerg
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Jaedong has been known as the revenge killer. He usually loses the first set only to win the entire Best Of X
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I felt bad for Jaedong because he looked less prepared AND less rested than Flash. That just sucks if Jaedong is in a situation where he can't preform his best in the biggest matchup of the season.
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On December 19 2009 21:31 konadora wrote:...Jaedong totally had no idea how to handle it, nor could he have expected such play by Flash (he should have gotten the hint after Flash vs ZerO though)...
What? Jaedong had no idea how to handle the most basic standard build order in current StarCraft? 3 hatch muta vs FE +1 and stim? How could you not expect the most common timing push in StarCraft?
Jaedong played the more risky variation of putting down hatch before mutas are out and paid the price. He had to follow it up with some counters that couldn't break Flash's solid play and put himself even further behind.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
man jaedong wins too much anyway. don't need to feel bad
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umm... haha. i was thinking about this the other day. after jaedong left the box at the end of the match, he definitely looked like he was tearing up a bit. i actually started laughing, especially since they went to flash who was taking pictures and stuff while jaedong was basically crying, but I felt kind of bad afterward. Then I remembered that Jaedong has 3 OSLs and Flash only has one. I kept laughing.
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On December 19 2009 23:57 RANDOMCL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2009 23:06 shurgen wrote:On December 19 2009 21:14 RANDOMCL wrote:
I enjoy watching the occasional match, but this is beyond ridiculous. I'm not one of those asshole's who will give you shit for cheering on your favorite video-gamer. That's totally cool, if that's what you're into. However, the OP is taking his level of emotional involvement to a point beyond that of even the players themselves. That shit is frightening. Tone it down. Uhh... this is what e-sport is supposed to be about =/. Yeah, I don't understand that at all. Sorry. Even if you consider it the equivalent of any sport, be it football or whatever it is, it is still extremely offputting. When someone becomes this emotionally involved in the performance of someone they don't know... that isn't a sign of a mentally healthy person. I enjoy watching football as well, but I don't become this upset when the team I am rooting for loses. I just watch it to enjoy myself. When someone takes it this far, it bothers me. People get upset, cry, and throw childish fits over their favorite team/player... seriously? Grow up. Posting shit like this thread makes TL look like it is full of children.
Are you a troll or just obnoxious?
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Baa?21244 Posts
Cheer up, Jaedong will just own Flash on Christmast ^_^
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