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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
November 19 2009 00:57 GMT
#21
No, now that I've listened to it, the player is just using normal pedal to hold everything, until the E is played again.
I really doubt the player is using the sostenuto. Unless he uses it in the extremely elaborate way that I described (which I think would be noticeable), the sostenuto pedal would hold everything that is played at the same time E is played, and hence would be NO DIFFERENT from using the normal pedal.
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Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
November 19 2009 00:57 GMT
#22
It's not badly notated, it's simply two melodies. One of the melodies is two eight notes followed by a 3/4 note = 4/4. The other melody is a whole note = 4/4. Makes perfect sense.

Now, as to actually play it, I'd hold the sustain pedal after you play the A in the first measure until you play the E, and then quickly let go of the sustain pedal. Then again, I'm a bad piano player.
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jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
November 19 2009 00:59 GMT
#23
In the song they clearly repeat the note instead of sustaining it throughout. I've seen this before in piano sheets and I think the composer just wants to convey that the melody would ideally have that note sustained, but is impossible due to the piano only having one of each note. It is just to show a certain mood, and is also consistent with measures 1 and 3 which actually are physically possible.

I'm pretty sure this happens all the time in classical music as well. Many times there should be a note sustained throughout an entire measure, but yet you have to play it again as an eighth note or something. It's to show how the music should sound to the listener and at higher levels it actually helps to have the music appear consistently with the melody rather than have it appear differently on the page just because it's impossible to play it that way.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-19 01:04:26
November 19 2009 00:59 GMT
#24
On November 19 2009 09:57 Khenra wrote:
It's not badly notated, it's simply two melodies. One of the melodies is two eight notes followed by a 3/4 note = 4/4. The other melody is a whole note = 4/4. Makes perfect sense.

Now, as to actually play it, I'd hold the sustain pedal after you play the A in the first measure until you play the E, and then quickly let go of the sustain pedal. Then again, I'm a bad piano player.


Then, the A would be held over as well, unless you cut it off prematurely, in which you cannot preserve the legato.

Now, what about that measure 15? Have fun with that lol.
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
November 19 2009 01:05 GMT
#25
Play the E note, and use pedal throughout the 4th measure..

The 2nd part of aerith's theme LH is full of triplets lool.. The song is simple but good luck..
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 19 2009 01:16 GMT
#26
On November 19 2009 09:50 Zelniq wrote:
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On November 19 2009 09:42 phosphorylation wrote:
I think you might be fussing over little too much over this. Just hold it as long as possible until you need to play it again.

Measure 15 looks even more problematic: not only is only holding that C sharp with your finger impossible, it again is being played again on the LH multiple times while its being held.

I say drop this nonsense and go play some mozart instead.

after listening to the song again and reading about the sostenuto pedal, i think that's exactly what's going on, including the C sharp in measure 15. too bad I dont have that pedal!

btw i chose this piece for my piano class final, I guess you're right that it doesn't really matter how I choose to play that


Well since you are screwed by pedal, you can always play the C# with your left hand. There are random times when things have to be ad hoc'd like that, for example in this one Chopin ballade I had to play two notes with one finger on my left hand because it was impossible for me to reach otherwise.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
November 19 2009 01:22 GMT
#27
That is a possibility. But it still does not solve the bigger issue of it being repeated multiple times while being held.
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
November 19 2009 01:46 GMT
#28
100% sure--> Play the doted half-note so you will strike the E twice in both measures.

It is notated like that to show that you should hold down the 1st E as long as possible and then quickly strike it again for the 2nd beat
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-19 03:27:46
November 19 2009 03:25 GMT
#29
On November 19 2009 10:05 kaleidoscope wrote:
Play the E note, and use pedal throughout the 4th measure..

The 2nd part of aerith's theme LH is full of triplets lool.. The song is simple but good luck..

u'll probably be pedalling almost every bar to get the effect of bells anyway rite?
edit: ok more like every phrase, my bad
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