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Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
October 27 2009 20:46 GMT
#21
The thing is the definition that I hear outside of casual settings for racism is basically "prejudice plus power", and that's the one I go with, since otherwise it's basically indistinguishable from prejudice which is then pointless. In the United States, historically minorities have not had the power to back up whatever prejudices they may have and thus it's not racism. I am not a fan of the statement "only whites can be racist" primarily because if you go to other countries where white people have not historically dominated politically, then this is not necessarily the case.

But I would agree that in the contemporary United States, only whites can be racist, though anyone can be prejudiced.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 27 2009 20:46 GMT
#22
your class is full of idiots, drop it asap
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20090 Posts
October 27 2009 20:48 GMT
#23
Has a black person ever made you feel bad through prejudice? I can't really think of any derogatory stereotypes that can be attributed to me via my race. Obviously anyone can be a racist, but i feel like white people are the only people that can be accused of being racist because we're becoming so politically correct that if you call a black person racist, you're being racist.
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Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
October 27 2009 20:48 GMT
#24
Like my friend has said many times, "the majority of arguments arise over a conflict in definitions."
Soli Deo gloria.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 27 2009 20:50 GMT
#25
hmm is there a prejudices against short/young looking people too?
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 27 2009 20:51 GMT
#26
It's true. I thought it was pretty much a commonly accepted nuance that only middle class white people can be made fun of these days, Athiests and Christians only of course.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
October 27 2009 20:56 GMT
#27
Soooooooooo stupid...
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 27 2009 20:57 GMT
#28
Welcome2America.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 27 2009 21:00 GMT
#29
My thoughts:

- 'Black studies' is not deemed racist apparently to white peoples, but many would agree 'white studies' would offend black people. That's fucking retarded.

- Saying only whites can be racist is just fucking bullshit. Period.

- I know chances are this thread will lead to lots of flaming and shit, but in all seriousness, the black girl was most definitely out of line. Whether the positions/races were reversed or not doesn't change the fact that the girls statement and what is being taught is quite offensive, regardless of status or class or whatever.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17542 Posts
October 27 2009 21:00 GMT
#30
On October 28 2009 05:29 LordWeird wrote:
Yes it's true. Only whites can hate and discriminate against another race.


Your racist comments amuse me.

But jokes aside:

Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.


Do you see anything about power here? Or anything like that?
The truth is, you can be racist despite being a member of a minority.
As long as black thinks his race is superior to white, he will be racist. It's the same for everyone.

Now, if we're talking about racial discrimination...

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.


Again, no mention of power etc.
Everyone can be racist.

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haxorz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States138 Posts
October 27 2009 21:06 GMT
#31
On October 28 2009 05:24 eMbrace wrote:
A black girl brought up the question to the professor, "In our black studies class we are learning that the only race that can be racist is white people, because they have the most power (she's referring to the U.S.) -- so while a minority can be prejudice towards white people, they can never actually be racist since they can't put whites on a lower power level. Do you agree with this?"


Her professor's view is crazy. As many people have pointed out, anyone can be racist.

Perhaps, however, she misstated his point. Defining "prejudice" as "a belief about a group" and "discrimination" as "an action taken because of prejudice", I would definitely agree with the following:

"A group in power can more easily discriminate against a group not in power"

Note that this has nothing to do with being "racist" or not; it is possible for any member of any group can be racist.

And theres the GG.
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
October 27 2009 21:13 GMT
#32
There is no racism whatsoever

There're just stupid people
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
akevin
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada120 Posts
October 27 2009 21:15 GMT
#33
Umm, so what happens in the case of black people in power? Eg. if my boss is black, can he be racist now? Can Obama be racist....clearly a white person is running the country lol.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 27 2009 21:15 GMT
#34
Perhaps I'll try to get this black studies class next semester and see first hand what this is all about =p
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 27 2009 21:17 GMT
#35
On October 28 2009 06:15 akevin wrote:
Umm, so what happens in the case of black people in power? Eg. if my boss is black, can he be racist now? Can Obama be racist....clearly a white person is running the country lol.


Someone actually brought up the point that a half-black man was currently the "most powerful man in the world." -- and she simply responded that it doesn't matter because most positions of power in the U.S. are still run by whites.
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 21:21:09
October 27 2009 21:19 GMT
#36
To the OP -

Yeah the girl's statement was idiotic, but don't assume that is specifically what is being taught in her black studies class. It's just as likely that she didn't understand what her professor was saying (as others have pointed out, they could have been using a specific definition that is different from the 'normal' one).

There's also a lot of motivation to present yourself as significantly more oppressed than you actually are, which could explain the significance of the class divide.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 27 2009 21:20 GMT
#37
obama???
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 21:22:49
October 27 2009 21:20 GMT
#38
On October 28 2009 05:38 TheAntZ wrote:
White people hardly are racist anymore, black people are the most racist people in the world now.


Where i live in sweden theres alot of immigrants(not black people tho) and alot of them are racist and randomly assaults/cusses white people for no reason - completely unprovoked.

Anyone who thinks just white people are racist is a fucking ignorant fool and most likely not white themselves(no racist, lol). Those who say white people are the only ones being racist are infact the ones being racist cause they are accusing another race.


Also, your school is really stupid. They have black people studies classes where they teach black people that only whites are racist. Now thats racial discrimination, they should fire that teacher asap.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 21:26:02
October 27 2009 21:23 GMT
#39
On October 28 2009 05:50 StorrZerg wrote:
hmm is there a prejudices against short/young looking people too?

I'm very prejudiced against short/young looking people.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-27 21:24:39
October 27 2009 21:23 GMT
#40
On October 28 2009 06:20 YPang wrote:
obama???

obama is an exceptional case and individuals like him don't say much about the racism issue. i think the entire argument comes down to the fundamental definition of "racism."
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