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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 14 2009 08:35 GMT
#81
On October 14 2009 15:20 Response wrote:
I just want to say that for anyone interested this is definitely worth the price and if you're looking to improve your game its worth every penny. Inc was totally professional about it and was quite manner and helped me quite a bit in my PvZ as we talked about the timings and other such things while he watched me play games. I'm definitely looking to do it again ! :-D <3 inc and shout out to LZGAMER FOR BEING AWESOME


Thanks a lot dude Response was the one I had spoken of earlier.. we found out we couldn't host for each other and it created complications. But due to the streaming age and some willing friends (g5,lzgamer) we were able to salvage this and make a pretty productive process

All in all it was good and I am glad to hear you were happy!

I am going to institute a questionnaire for all those that complete my training and make those public to other people so they can review it before possibly hiring me. Hopefully that will raise the bar.. nothing big just stuff like "what did you like" or "not like" and "what can I improve" type questions.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 14 2009 08:38 GMT
#82
On October 14 2009 14:29 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
iNc.... what would you say the best level that would benefit from this? I'm very skeptical that a D-level fool like me would gain much from this whereas someone in the C ranks I think would benefit much greater from this...


Honestly I think all groups can benefit. I have beginner insight that probably a LOT of people could teach but few would take the time to show and demonstrate first hand etc.. I also have tremendous insight from 11 years of playing, thousands of replays and countless games/tourneys that can aid a C-A rank player.

Response is actually a B level gamer.. he has just been in a slump and needed some advice to modernize his play. I feel I can help the full spectrum.

Even myself: I am considered a pretty high level player but until machine sat me down and showed me proper muta vs scourge micro I didn't have a chance. Same goes with muta stacking-> h vs marine or how machine took me step by step through the 5 hatch hydra/muta variation that is so common right now. Sometimes it just takes a guy showing another guy what he should know.
NvG.ShyToSs
Profile Joined March 2009
United States39 Posts
October 14 2009 11:21 GMT
#83
iNc you = AWESOME!!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 14 2009 18:37 GMT
#84
Saturday is still open for anyone that wants a session.. lemme know!
parkerprocise
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
61 Posts
October 14 2009 23:30 GMT
#85
yo bro pm me im 100 percent wanting to do this asap.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11601 Posts
October 15 2009 05:04 GMT
#86
i just finished a session with geoff, and i must say, $20 which although may not be much for me is definitely worth it. We practiced PvZ and I learned a lot about timings and neat little tricks that can be used to get a small advantage against a zerg user, which included a few timings and map positioning. G5 and Machine stopped in and gave me a bit of advice as well. Overall it's great for any aspiring player, and I highly recommend him.

Good luck Geoff and have fun at the poker tables.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 15 2009 08:03 GMT
#87
On October 15 2009 14:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i just finished a session with geoff, and i must say, $20 which although may not be much for me is definitely worth it. We practiced PvZ and I learned a lot about timings and neat little tricks that can be used to get a small advantage against a zerg user, which included a few timings and map positioning. G5 and Machine stopped in and gave me a bit of advice as well. Overall it's great for any aspiring player, and I highly recommend him.

Good luck Geoff and have fun at the poker tables.


Thanks a lot dude I was a bit worried you were unhappy because you were so silent hehe. But I bet that was just the dorm atmosphere or perhaps your personality Glad we could help.

^_^ GL IN CSL!
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11601 Posts
October 15 2009 08:20 GMT
#88
Yeah the last game I was more quiet because my roommate and his friend came in and just took some lines so they were like talking a ton like "omg i didn't know people's hands could move that fast" So they were talking about how good they were feeling for getting some powder etc... Also a little shy/nervous when I'm talking with someone whose talent and skill far surpasses my own.

Something I'd like to add is that Geoff really gets into detail about how to make you a better player. He really went into depth about how miniscule mistakes can cost you a game which i probably should have brought over from poker. His knowledge on the meta game, as well as his experience playing is just amazing.

Another thing that surprised me was G5 and Machine's readiness to step in and help as well. From my past experience with a few other top players, is that they seemingly look down on those who are not of their caliber. This completely changed my opinion on them, and made me realize that they literally are your average people who enjoy playing a game and are willing to help others who are striving to be better.

Even though I have been playing since 1999, I realized just how much there is left to learn, and the skill gap between a C player, such as myself, and an A ranked player is probably larger than the difference between a C player and a D/D- one.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 15 2009 10:38 GMT
#89
Thanks again dude. Glad we could help.

I edited OP with customer reviews for people.
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 15 2009 10:43 GMT
#90
Hehe this sound spretty funky

1 english buyin = 8 sessions? Sounds good yo lol

Or i could play HU with you, win 20 dollars and then pay it back in SC lol

---

Actually i would geniunely do this if it wasn't for the fact i have lost a lot of my love for playing SC since i can't find equal skill level people to play with just for fun/community like
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 01:17:13
October 16 2009 01:13 GMT
#91
On October 15 2009 17:20 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Even though I have been playing since 1999, I realized just how much there is left to learn, and the skill gap between a C player, such as myself, and an A ranked player is probably larger than the difference between a C player and a D/D- one.
This is very true. Many people think getting C+/B- is crazy hard, it's not. getting A- is crazy hard. I've been B- before and I'm not even really that good (still lose to D+ players all the time)

I don't think I'll ever touch B/B+ because I get so discouraged and angry/hopeless when I start reaching higher levels.

This is a really great thing inc is doing keep it up!
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 16 2009 01:45 GMT
#92
I'll pay you $20 just so I can bash on you for 2 hours.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
October 16 2009 01:55 GMT
#93
On October 16 2009 10:13 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 17:20 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Even though I have been playing since 1999, I realized just how much there is left to learn, and the skill gap between a C player, such as myself, and an A ranked player is probably larger than the difference between a C player and a D/D- one.
This is very true. Many people think getting C+/B- is crazy hard, it's not. getting A- is crazy hard. I've been B- before and I'm not even really that good (still lose to D+ players all the time)

I don't think I'll ever touch B/B+ because I get so discouraged and angry/hopeless when I start reaching higher levels.

This is a really great thing inc is doing keep it up!


yeah, your blogs make this obvious haha
Sullifam
Meatpost[aov]
Profile Joined July 2009
United States62 Posts
October 16 2009 04:00 GMT
#94
No one should ever, ever get any kind of lessons from Inc. thats more of a waste of money then anything ive heard in a while.

theres countless better zergs out there. a ridiculous amount. Im american and i can say that the only good american gamer is Idra all the EG. guys are carbon copies of eachother that have nothing else going on in there lives and just talk to eachother all day long while palying starcraft actively for years.
B- Zerg
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
October 16 2009 04:58 GMT
#95
On October 16 2009 13:00 Meatpost[aov] wrote:
No one should ever, ever get any kind of lessons from Inc. thats more of a waste of money then anything ive heard in a while.

theres countless better zergs out there. a ridiculous amount. Im american and i can say that the only good american gamer is Idra all the EG. guys are carbon copies of eachother that have nothing else going on in there lives and just talk to eachother all day long while palying starcraft actively for years.


i heard machine is selling terran lessons. i'll try to find the link for you if you're interested.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
nyokenusa
Profile Joined July 2009
56 Posts
October 16 2009 05:00 GMT
#96
On October 16 2009 13:58 Artosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 13:00 Meatpost[aov] wrote:
No one should ever, ever get any kind of lessons from Inc. thats more of a waste of money then anything ive heard in a while.

theres countless better zergs out there. a ridiculous amount. Im american and i can say that the only good american gamer is Idra all the EG. guys are carbon copies of eachother that have nothing else going on in there lives and just talk to eachother all day long while palying starcraft actively for years.


i heard machine is selling terran lessons. i'll try to find the link for you if you're interested.

can someone sell me protoss lessons
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 16 2009 05:18 GMT
#97
On October 16 2009 14:00 nyokenusa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 13:58 Artosis wrote:
On October 16 2009 13:00 Meatpost[aov] wrote:
No one should ever, ever get any kind of lessons from Inc. thats more of a waste of money then anything ive heard in a while.

theres countless better zergs out there. a ridiculous amount. Im american and i can say that the only good american gamer is Idra all the EG. guys are carbon copies of eachother that have nothing else going on in there lives and just talk to eachother all day long while palying starcraft actively for years.


i heard machine is selling terran lessons. i'll try to find the link for you if you're interested.

can someone sell me protoss lessons
protoss lessons are much harder to market, there's nothing to talk about... "Build gateways, attack move units, gg"
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
October 16 2009 05:23 GMT
#98
On October 16 2009 13:00 Meatpost[aov] wrote:
No one should ever, ever get any kind of lessons from Inc. thats more of a waste of money then anything ive heard in a while.

theres countless better zergs out there. a ridiculous amount. Im american and i can say that the only good american gamer is Idra all the EG. guys are carbon copies of eachother that have nothing else going on in there lives and just talk to eachother all day long while palying starcraft actively for years.

I don't know how I'd feel about paying someone to call me a skillless fucking newbie for 2 hours.

Besides, if there's no good American players, if someone else is top, who's to say they're gonna be able to communicate in English?
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 05:25:29
October 16 2009 05:24 GMT
#99
On October 16 2009 14:18 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 14:00 nyokenusa wrote:
On October 16 2009 13:58 Artosis wrote:
On October 16 2009 13:00 Meatpost[aov] wrote:
No one should ever, ever get any kind of lessons from Inc. thats more of a waste of money then anything ive heard in a while.

theres countless better zergs out there. a ridiculous amount. Im american and i can say that the only good american gamer is Idra all the EG. guys are carbon copies of eachother that have nothing else going on in there lives and just talk to eachother all day long while palying starcraft actively for years.


i heard machine is selling terran lessons. i'll try to find the link for you if you're interested.

can someone sell me protoss lessons
protoss lessons are much harder to market, there's nothing to talk about... "Build gateways, attack move units, gg"

Generic Protoss bashing is pretty lame.

Most of the old generation of non Korean players played Protoss, maybe there's still some around that's active.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 16 2009 06:02 GMT
#100
@Faust: Put up or shut up. I will beat down on you with all 3 races. MC and nuke my friend Would love to!

@meatpost: I never claim to be the best zerg player or w/e. I do claim to know a lot about this game. You don't seem to dispute that and take this time to be overly mean and antagonistic. That won't get you anywhere. Which should be abundant since it has gotten you NOWHERE so far.

That being said: Winning a national championship, placing top 4 in TLT2, winning a US Open, Pan Am top 2 etc etc.. all indicate I am at least not as bad as you say
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