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My new computer has been working great thus far.
But today I was playing poker, had osu open, and then my MSN said I had a new message. So I signed on and my computer froze. Was not a real big deal to be honest. But unfortunately, now when I restart the computer and go on, it'll always freeze at the task bar (Windows 7). Whenever I scroll over it I'll get the loading sign.
My KiS (got it because of RoX wtf) keeps saying something about an unorthodox shutdown of programs. Maybe it is because I'm shutting down from the power button and not the computer. So what I did was assumed maybe I'm retarded and somehow got a virus in a week, although the only shit I downloaded was Open Office, reputable Poker software, and Osu + Starcraft belated stuff. Plus the MSN/AIM. Thinking about that, I did a system restore to 2 days earlier, assuming that it would fix whatever the problem would be.
Turns out that didn't fix it. But whenever I run it in safemode it doesn't pause up. The only other piece of information I can really give is the CPU is at 30 degrees celsius at startup right now. Would that indicate maybe my computer is just having problems overheating and locking up whenever I start?
Any advice/theorycraft would be appreciated.
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Omg I just restarted it and it took 5 minutes instead of 5 seconds before freezing now.
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Also a sidenote, I checked the properties of my computer and still says I have 4gb of ram available so thats cool. I'm gonna let the computer cool down for an hour or so and try it again later.
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30C is fine. need more info, at this point i would just format to figure out if it is really a hardware problem or not before your warranty runs out.
oh ddoesnt osund like a hardware problem
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yeah if thats all you have installed then a reformat might be faster than trying to diagnose/fix it. Although if you re-download the stuff and the same problem occurs, then you know its one of those programs.
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Right now my cpu temp shows 44C. It's definitely not the problem in OP case if he's got just 30C.
In my humble opinion, it's just some Winfuckupbug.
You said you always shut down using your power button, instead of shutting down from the menu?
It sounds consistent with "unorthodox shutdown of programs" which can cause trouble. Seems like your Windows doesn't know how to handle all this processes that got halted in a wrong way.
For future: You should always try to shutdown via menu, there's a whole process of shutting down OS and if you just skip parts of it (or the entire process) you're gonna screw it up (OS, programs and hardware in certain cases).
If your computer does not power itself down, you should not turn off the computer until you see a message indicating that the system is halted or finished shutting down, in order to give the system the time to unmount all partitions. Being impatient may cause data loss.
There's a lot of stuff your OS has to do to shut down.
1. End all ongoing processes (in right order).
2. Save any data that might be lost during #1 (keeping documents etc.).
3. Unmount all drives.
4. Halt the system.
5. Power down computer.
blahblahblah, that's pretty simplified. Just ask your friend with Linux to show you what displays on his screen when he shuttdowns his comp from the console (Windows does roughly the same stuff but doesn't display it).
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Bump still having this problem when running games.
I can play Poker fine or draw in MSPaint while chatting with people on MSN for days but when I play Bioshock, Mabinogi, or Starcraft for 6+ hours the computer just freezes. I can restart it then it'll freeze randomly from 15 minutes ~ 3 hours. I updated my graphic card drivers and everything.
Need this fixed! I'm getting jipped off lots of Mabinogi gold holy shit.
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it's fucked!, it's fucked~!
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Oh my god. I've had this problem for the past week-- are you using Google Chrome?
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Aw. Nevermind. I had this problem consistently-- I'd be navigating or even just going through folders, but if Chrome was open, I'd find myself often waiting on the taskbar to unfreeze and stuff. I'd highlight it and get a "busy" mouse
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Bump still having this problem when running games.
I can play Poker fine or draw in MSPaint while chatting with people on MSN for days but when I play Bioshock, Mabinogi, or Starcraft for 6+ hours the computer just freezes. I can restart it then it'll freeze randomly from 15 minutes ~ 3 hours. I updated my graphic card drivers and everything.
Need this fixed! I'm getting jipped off lots of Mabinogi gold holy shit.
I've had that problem with Windows 7. Actually, I have that problem with Windows 7.
With me it's just completely random though, it's happens the most in the middle of SC games (the sound keeps going but the screen just freezes, have you had that?) or when I tab between SC and
other programs.
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Let me elaborate the problem a bit more.
This computer is new, the max temperature it has ever reached was 42C.
A certain temperature doesn't seem to indicate when it freezes though.
It has frozen at 37C, 39C, 42C, and even 32C.
When I say freezing this is what happens:
There is no indication of when it is going to happen. My computer does not slow down, it does not start lagging, this just happens in the split of a second. My sound produces a constant buzzing sound and my screen is frozen and won't accept input from my mouse or keyboard. I cannot go to task manager. My only option is force shutdown. No alt+control+delete either.
It only happens when my computer is on for a bit and I'm playing a game. I've upgraded my graphics card drivers, I dunno if it is even installed correctly though but it shows up in device manager and shows no problems. My computer shows 4GB ram that is properly installed.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Will ship $25 to anyone who can fix this omg.
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Try a new (or old) graphics card. And try a different operating system. My problems didn't start till i installed Windows 7.
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On November 08 2009 19:12 disco wrote:
Try a new (or old) graphics card. And try a different operating system. My problems didn't start till i installed Windows 7.
Yeah I've been reading up on freezing with Windows 7 for past hour.
It seems like some hardware can mess with Windows 7 beta.
There was a suggestion that the problem could be registry though, so I downloaded CCleaner.
Ran a scan, and see if computer will freeze anymore.
If it does, I'll prob just put another operating system on this.
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oh dear god faust what are you up to now
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You got a virus. Stop watching so much porn, or get a good firewall.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic134.html
^ Best way to get problems solved. Forum members are very helpful and knowledgeable and are willing for thorough step-by-step analysis of your problems and HJT logs, and follow up on your responses if you still have an issue.
Good luck!
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It could be related to Windows 7 but I don't know enough about it to recommend switching for no reason. You can try that as a last resort after consulting with some forums like fanatacist suggested.
My computer would freeze periodically and give me occational BSOD when the RAM was seated improperly. It's really easy to reseat so it might be worth trying.
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On November 10 2009 00:04 Durak wrote:
It could be related to Windows 7 but I don't know enough about it to recommend switching for no reason. You can try that as a last resort after consulting with some forums like fanatacist suggested.
My computer would freeze periodically and give me occational BSOD when the RAM was seated improperly. It's really easy to reseat so it might be worth trying.
Can you give me more information on this?
If this doesn't work I will just put a new OS on it.
I googled a bit and I've seen a few posts on various forums where people with AMD motherboards (or processors wat) are also having the same problem as I am with Windows 7.
Anyways here is my shitpage, is this ram normal? It always says only 3.25GB is available when I have 4GB installed. And any help on how to properly mount it and make sure it is in right would be appreciated.
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Bump again I seriously can't take this shit.
Anyone know of a different operating system that I can download and stick on this thing to see if I still have problems? Preferably free.
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It doesn't pause up while running in Safe-Mode? This might indicate that some of your driver files are messing up your computer, but to find which one is time consuming.
Most operating systems are free if obtained by questionably legal methods...
Ubuntu Linux would be a good shot to throw on there, its fairly user friendly. If you're not really comfortable with Linux, just download a copy of pirated Windows XP to try out.
Since its a new computer, I assume you have the recovery cd? The troubleshooting method that I would do is:
1) Reinstall a fresh copy of Windows 7 to see if its a software issue
2) If that doesn't work, install Windows XP, but make sure you have all the drivers beforehand, so you can get online and running right away.
If that still doesn't work, then its most likely a hardware issue, and you'll have to swap out things, or take it in to a computer repair shop if you don't have the expertise.
Edit: I'll try to follow the thread, but if you want more help feel free to PM me.
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Thanks for the reply meeple.
I thought it was a driver issue but I went to the websites of all my hardware manufacturers and downloaded each current file for my operating system (Windows 7). The only one that I don't have up-to-date is my motherboard/processor one (Fuck if I remember which, it came with a CD and when I put it in it says only WinXP then freezes). But I am noticing more and more that the more activity I do on my computer the more likely it is to freeze. However, I have more than enough ram and the computer isn't even close to overheating so I dunno.
On the plus side I found a cool website though: http://www.boys-island.net/
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Have you noticed an increase in cpu activity when it freezes? Even if you can't get to task manager, the computer will "sound" like its working hard. The fan will go on and harddrive will spin.
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And when I said it could be a driver problem, I meant more that Windows 7 is relatively new, and how it reacts with all drivers isn't exactly tried and true, it might not be that its not the latest version, but just the fact that you have the driver there thats causing the problem. To check this you would need to go to the Hardware wizard in the control panel and exhaustively disable all the drivers to test.
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On November 19 2009 21:04 meeple wrote:
And when I said it could be a driver problem, I meant more that Windows 7 is relatively new, and how it reacts with all drivers isn't exactly tried and true, it might not be that its not the latest version, but just the fact that you have the driver there thats causing the problem. To check this you would need to go to the Hardware wizard in the control panel and exhaustively disable all the drivers to test.
I was going to say this. New drivers don't always mean compatible/working drivers. In safe mode you can stop a lot of processes (I believe you can control this in msconfig) so if there is a change in your computer performance then it's easier to identify problems. It's also better to run virus scans in safe mode.
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Do you a wireless connection?
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gl fixing this Faust, did you buy it from a manufacturer or make it yourself?
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On November 19 2009 23:43 Eben wrote:
Do you a wireless connection?
Yes and yes I built it myself.
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Well that takes away the possibility of using the warranty. Let us know what you try and the outcome...
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K I fixed it but new problem.
Installed 4gb of ram, it reads it but says it isn't usable.
Halp?
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Should be using a 64-bit OS. 32-bit can only address around 3.2~ gigs of memory at any time. That's why it only says you have 3.25 effective. Are you still having freezing issues? Can you tell me what your other specs are?
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To use over 3.25 gb of RAM you need a 64bit enabled operating system and a 64bit enabled processor. Most new processors are 64bit enabled so maybe your OS is the 32 bit version.
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