I just recently seen this as well and liked it, but this must be the most twisted movie I have ever seen haha. I wont spoil it for anyone, but this is a great movie. I thought the story line was pretty solid and the characters did a good job.

some parts are NSFW so be careful

and enjoy

SK.Testie

Canada11084 Posts

September 06 2009 16:02 GMT

#23

Meh, it was ok. I didn't really like it that much because I completely expected the twist from the beginning. It really is over rated.

skronch

United States2717 Posts

September 06 2009 16:03 GMT

#24

On September 06 2009 19:49 jello_biafra wrote:
Mainly that fight scene, the octopus scene, the music and the fact that you can hear someone playing BW at one point.

Ip Man was awesome and I also recommend the good, the bad and the weird.

what part of the movie is this? i must have completely missed this.

A3iL3r0n

United States2196 Posts

September 06 2009 16:07 GMT

#25

The first 30 minutes or so are great, but then the plot starts getting really convoluted. The motivation of Dae Su's tormentor is very lame and it takes 2 hours to get there.

The main problem I have with this movie is that at times it adheres to realism (besides the plot, which is fine), at others it is not. For example, in the hallway fight scene, he starts wrecking house but he gets swarmed, realistic... but then they let him up, not realistic... and stab a fucking knife into his back but he continues to be able to fight somehow... not realistic.

The best part of the movie is where he takes the cigarette from that street punk, and his interior dialogue goes, "can 10 years of training actually work in real life?" and then he beats all of them up, and the interior dialogue says, "apparently, it can." I mean that's fucking great stuff, and its a shame the movie didn't continue along that line.

Also, at the very beginning when Dae-Su is totally drunk and in detox, that's great stuff too.

ManBearPig

Belgium207 Posts

September 06 2009 16:09 GMT

#26

If you take such things as plot, style (camera etc), music, creativity and acting into account, you simply cannot hold that ip man, as a movie, is better than or even close to old boy. Old boy is superior in all these aspects. Ip man is just another kungfu movie.

Crisis_

United States165 Posts

September 06 2009 16:56 GMT

#27

I love movies like this. I'm not sure how to classify them, though. Can anyone recommend a few good ones in the same "genre"?

7mk

Germany10156 Posts

September 06 2009 17:35 GMT

#28

On September 07 2009 01:56 Crisis_ wrote:
I love movies like this. I'm not sure how to classify them, though. Can anyone recommend a few good ones in the same "genre"?

really obvious but just in case you havent watched em: the other two movies of the vengeance trilogy

The director Chan Wook Park also just released a new movie:
http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/10011304-thirst/#

seems to be a bit different though as it's a vampire movie :p
cool idea though with the vampire being a priest, I'm definitely gonna watch this one.

Has a pretty badass trailer at that:

+ Show Spoiler +

CJ!!!!

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

September 06 2009 17:58 GMT

#29

just like to chime I liked Old Boy and hope we can all agree it had a great OST

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY48hhpo-gI

CoOl]1st[

United States243 Posts

September 06 2009 21:29 GMT

#30

because its a satyr on how fucked up asians are.

Spike

United States1392 Posts

September 06 2009 21:47 GMT

#31

Didn't see much in Oldboy and even less in Ip Man.

Seriously, Ip Man is like a carbon copy of countless martial arts movies.
Man has been wronged, must take revenge; wasn't anything original or creative about it.
You could say that it was "done well", but really, there was no meat to the story and the action wasn't nearly good enough to overcome the lack of substance.

VarmVaffel

Norway378 Posts

September 06 2009 22:44 GMT

#32

I saw this movie without ever having heard of it before, and I got a very positive reaction to it. I thought it was some kind of B-rated movie, but I was proven very otherwise. It had quite a few good fight scenes, but the main thing about it imo was the plot twist at the end. Never before have I seen such a sick and weird fucking twist in a movie, which left be both in disgust and a sense of awesomeness for the writer.

Conclude: Overall a good movie, but nothing spectacular. The plot was better than most movies though.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

September 06 2009 22:50 GMT

#33

On September 07 2009 06:29 CoOl]1st[ wrote:
because its a satyr on how fucked up asians are.

We're Greek?

Shauni

4077 Posts

September 06 2009 23:22 GMT

#34

I didn't like Oldboy much either. I might not have been as disappointed as you but it was certainly not a great movie. Watch 'Seom' instead if you want a good korean movie!

TabyLing

Australia69 Posts

September 07 2009 01:48 GMT

#35

I thought Oldboy was pretty crap... the plot was completely predictable, and so overly dramatic. Perhaps part the point was to be ugly and over the top, heavy handed etc to give the distasteful feeling... so I guess that was done well, but nothing else i could say was interesting about this movie.

AzureEye

United States1360 Posts

September 07 2009 02:29 GMT

#36

If you guys want a good K-film, go watch Brotherhood in War (Tae Guk Ki)

I might be a little biased because I love War films but who doesn't love war films?

And it beats the shit out of Saving Private Ryan

DivinO

United States4796 Posts

September 07 2009 03:34 GMT

#37

I liked Memento.

Haven't seen Oldboy yet. But I'll probably take Day[9]'s seal of disapproval to heart.

SaveYourSavior

United States1071 Posts

September 07 2009 03:51 GMT

#38

On September 07 2009 08:22 Shauni wrote:
I didn't like Oldboy much either. I might not have been as disappointed as you but it was certainly not a great movie. Watch 'Seom' instead if you want a good korean movie!

that movie will make you cry

it's also very good for a war movie

ero

United States66 Posts

September 07 2009 04:02 GMT

#39

I didn't really like Oldboy. But I didn't really understand it fully either.

Since my friends recommended the movie to me, I thought I'd ask them to explain the movie. They couldn't, which led me to the conclusion that it's just good psuedo-intellectual bait (ooh it has subtitles and some weird artsy feel to it!).

Dunno, maybe the movie really is good.

My Lady Vengeance was pretty cool though.

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

September 07 2009 04:03 GMT

#40

It was really good in a theatre. Maybe it loses something on video or a monitor. It felt like it drew me in enough that its brutality and violence made it impossible for me to find it predictable.

Maybe I've seen enough brutal movies since then that I would feel differently. It reminds me of Ebert's review of Aliens.

I don't know how else to describe this: The movie made me feel bad. It filled me with feelings of unease and disquiet and anxiety. I walked outside and I didn't want to talk to anyone. I was drained. I'm not sure "Aliens" is what we mean by entertainment. Yet I have to be accurate about this movie: It is a superb example of filmmaking craft.

By now it probably would not be considered a huge shocker of a movie, and people might also feel that its plot was predictable.

Saving Private Ryan's opening scene is enough to make it a better movie than Tae guk ki, though that says more about the former than the latter. The elite north korean team meleeing the south koreans in battle broke my suspension of disbelief.

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