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Why are progamers so boring?

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simfarm
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Ireland75 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 04:24:25
August 23 2009 04:09 GMT
#1
Warning: potentially offensive.

Have you ever noticed that EVERY SINGLE PROGAMER says something like "I am not satisfied with winning" when they win, "I will work hard to overcome (insert name) and retain my name" when they lose? Why are progamers so boring?

You see this a lot with interviews. Progamers always say the same generic stuff: that they play and win for their fans, that they will work hard to retain their honor or whatever, and that they will avenge/uphold their name if they've lost in the past. Examples: Fantasy, Jaedong, Savior, ect ect.

It seems like I root for guys because they win; none of these guys have any personality whatsoever. Exception: Firebathero. I've gotten to the point where I don't really care about any of the players. Whenever these people win they say the exact same thing; everyone's so generic. Why root for anyone over anyone else?

Perhaps this has to do with Korean culture, but, if it does, then, Korean culture is conformist and boring.

I'll end with this:
Awesome: Boxer, FBH, Rock
Snore: Stork, Jangbi

**
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
August 23 2009 04:12 GMT
#2
i agree!

Terrans belong on the awesome list
and protoss on the snore, even tho stork is one of my favorite tosses, he's still a snore.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Lurgee
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia252 Posts
August 23 2009 04:18 GMT
#3
Add anytime to the awesome list.
cutebabyelephant
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States50 Posts
August 23 2009 04:19 GMT
#4
Because they're a bunch of nerds that play games all day and probably have low self confidence?
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
August 23 2009 04:20 GMT
#5
add (P)Rock to the awesome list.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 23 2009 04:22 GMT
#6
On August 23 2009 13:12 YPang wrote:
i agree!

Terrans belong on the awesome list
and protoss on the snore, even tho stork is one of my favorite tosses, he's still a snore.


Also T opponents I beat never GG when they lose
Same with Idra

T = BM or coincidence?
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
August 23 2009 04:23 GMT
#7
add CJ to the extreme snore list.
simfarm
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Ireland75 Posts
August 23 2009 04:23 GMT
#8
On August 23 2009 13:20 caelym wrote:
add (P)Rock to the awesome list.


Agreed. List was not meant to be comprehensive but I agree with you.
benutbutter
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States66 Posts
August 23 2009 04:24 GMT
#9
I think the problem is that the same trite questions are asked after each victory.

I'm sure quite a few of the progamers are super-cool guys; it's just that interviews don't generally allow anything to be expressed except the "I will work hard for my fans, family, and myself" deal.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
August 23 2009 04:25 GMT
#10
Someone needs to put some alcohol in OZ house, we'd see some awesome games (Jaedong vs. 7 Other players in a BO 50 or something)
U Gotta Skate.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 23 2009 04:29 GMT
#11
... this isn't limited to progaming...
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 23 2009 04:29 GMT
#12
The real question is.. do you think idrA is awesome?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 04:34:03
August 23 2009 04:33 GMT
#13
exception Perfectman
whohooO!! perfectman
also: Stork is more interesting than most: "omgz everyone is better than me i can't win anything"
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 04:34:33
August 23 2009 04:33 GMT
#14
CRASH
It's time you started working on
your interviews.

NUKE
What do I gotta do?

CRASH
Learn your cliches. Study them.
Know them. They're your friends.

Crash hands Nuke a small pad and pen.

CRASH
Write this down.
(beat)
"We gotta play 'em one day at a
time."

NUKE
Boring.

CRASH
Of course. That's the point.
(beat)
"I'm just happy to be here and
hope I can help the ballclub."

NUKE
Jesus.

CRASH
Write, write--"I just wanta give
It my best shot and, Good Lord
willing, things'll work out."
+ Show Spoiler +


From the Bull Durham screenplay.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 23 2009 04:49 GMT
#15
That's not limited just to programing and you're bassically talking about the mentality of asian countries. I personally find their culture very interesting, expecially their strong will and determination.

And it's not like they don't have any personality, their culture puts more accent on respect and not manifesting one's feelings in public.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
August 23 2009 04:52 GMT
#16
lol @ OP judging tv persona over real personality of players:

Savior


Jaedong

I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8088 Posts
August 23 2009 05:01 GMT
#17
You root for players becuasee of how entertaining their games are, not their interviews.
Free Palestine
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 05:05:08
August 23 2009 05:03 GMT
#18
Actually the personalities they present during interviews or when playing are often quite different to those you see when they're on their own (like during my photo shoots.) or at the fan meetings/just with the other players at matches post-pre games. You can't possibly judge them on the interviews and air time alone because it is a formal environment (much more so than most of the other eSports I've worked at.) and therefore due to the social structure and professional duties of the esports scene and Korea in general they can't act unprofessionally and give outlandish answers. They have a lot of young fans and are seen as role models by default because they are celebrities here. You can't judge them by the same standards as foreign (Non-Korean.) professional gamers. Also some people seem to forget a lot of these gamers are still teenagers - they often lack confidence and follow the examples of their older fellow gamers and/or coaches/managers.

I hate to burst peoples' bubbles, but even Sungeun (Firebathero.) isn't as out-going off camera as people seem to like to think he is. He's a lovely guy, but he is far from the most confident person I've met out of all the gamers (that honor jointly goes to Chalrenge, Canata and Gorush.)

No offense, but you're really making some massively uninformed generalizations in the op both about progamers/the progaming scene and Korean culture in general - different doesn't always equal boring or wrong. Whilst I will admit there are conformist elements to some Asian countries (sometimes due to their government like in North Korea and more often than not due to historical norms establishing a long time ago.) they do not define every single person in the country and they certainly don't define all the gamers I've met so far.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
August 23 2009 05:09 GMT
#19
On August 23 2009 13:29 thedeadhaji wrote:
... this isn't limited to progaming...


exactly.

its called politics guys
it does to blue what blue does to you
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
August 23 2009 05:15 GMT
#20
They play a game all day, they are not politicians or movie stars, they are not chosen by their personality or charisma, just because they are good at BW.
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