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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11602 Posts
July 19 2011 16:36 GMT
#1
Prime vs oGs
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Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
July 19 2011 16:41 GMT
#2
... Shit.

oGs are stronger overall IMO, but you just don't know how the series will go. Polt or MarineKing can easily rack up a few wins ... but so can NaDa and, obviously, MC.

No idea who to go with on this one. =/
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
knL
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany400 Posts
July 19 2011 16:45 GMT
#3
I think if prime survive Mc they will win the TvTs.

Iam a OGS fan but for my stats i vote for prime :o
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
July 19 2011 16:49 GMT
#4
HONGUN will pwn MC ;DDDD
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
July 19 2011 17:02 GMT
#5
.... MC in the RO8.. sensing the downfall of oGs.. haven't seen success of any of them in Korea in a while.
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manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
July 19 2011 17:11 GMT
#6
MKP doesn't win in teamleagues ever (since zotac) and I'm hoping he doesn't for the sake of my antiteam. oGs fighting!
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
July 19 2011 17:21 GMT
#7
PRIME GOGO
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Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
July 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#8
MC can't do nothing against Prime. Polt, MK, now HongUn can evidently own him. I remember oGs team faces after DongraeGu went 3-0 against them last time.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
July 19 2011 18:04 GMT
#9
oGs wins no problem. Hope to see Huk or Jinro play.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#10
I think oGs made a huge mistake by playing (P)MC first. That means that now Prime can have (T)Polt practice for literally any map to prepare to beat him. If oGs loses the first game, Optimus will have a whole game plan on any map he chooses ready to defeat MC. Obviously if Hannibal wins then MC is out, but basically oGs is giving MC up for a single win. (P)oGsHero would have been a much better choice for a first round player than MC. If you hold MC till the end, then if Prime plays Polt or MarineKing against him, it is harder for them to practice on a specific map as it might have been removed from the map choices by that point in the match. Instead, they're basically throwing MC away unless he can beat one of the best vPs in the world on a map that Polt gets to pick.

Prime can definitely take this, especially since oGs made a huge error by playing MC first.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#11
On July 20 2011 03:03 Reasonable wrote:
MC can't do nothing against Prime. Polt, MK, now HongUn can evidently own him. I remember oGs team faces after DongraeGu went 3-0 against them last time.

(Z)DongRaeGu wouldn't have won that if (P)MC and (Z)Zenio had both been there. I honestly do not think he would have stood a chance if instead of (P)oGsHero and (Z)Cezanne he had to play (P)MC and (Z)Zenio.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
July 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#12
oGs should take this with MC playing.
#TeamBuLba
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
July 19 2011 18:47 GMT
#13
i think prime has the stronger line up, but i like oGs better.
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They_
Profile Joined January 2011
Japan62 Posts
July 19 2011 19:32 GMT
#14
Polt hard counters MC.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
July 19 2011 19:46 GMT
#15
Prime! They've got this!
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 19 2011 20:13 GMT
#16
On July 20 2011 03:10 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 03:03 Reasonable wrote:
MC can't do nothing against Prime. Polt, MK, now HongUn can evidently own him. I remember oGs team faces after DongraeGu went 3-0 against them last time.

(Z)DongRaeGu wouldn't have won that if (P)MC and (Z)Zenio had both been there. I honestly do not think he would have stood a chance if instead of (P)oGsHero and (Z)Cezanne he had to play (P)MC and (Z)Zenio.


Cezanne actually has pretty decent ZvZ; in fact, he's as close to a ZvZ "sniper" as oGs gets. Zenio on the other hand, has pretty poor ZvZ as far as I remember, so Cezanne playing there was the better option.

Of course, your point that if MC (or HuK. Or BOTH) had played instead of Hero, oGs probably would have had it. ZvP is DRG's worst matchup, and those are the strongest players oGs has to offer.

oGs has a great terran lineup; NaDa, TOP, stc - but they don't stack up to the polt/MKP combo. HongUn won't play in the team league, between being a coach, his wrist problems, and still being in the GSL tournament... So there will be no PvP snipe of MC, and even if there were, I think MC will be giving some attention to this match up. I'd love to see HuK play as well this round, and if they're actually leading with MC I think it could happen.

Part of me wants to give it to prime, but the rest of me doesn't see optimus and MKP carrying the team THAT far, against an oGs team that's just quite deep.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 20:17:01
July 19 2011 20:15 GMT
#17
I highly doubt that HongUn will be played, if only because a.) he's in the semis now and that's what he'll be focusing on and b.) he's having problems with his wrists.

Polt will snipe MC, but oGs probably has someone ready to snipe Polt. Add to that the fact that oGs's roster is much deeper than Prime's, and I think oGs will take the win here. They simply have more options available to them, and the solid players to back up whatever the hell they want to do. Sure, they lost to MVP, but they were also missing most of their star players that day.

EDIT: Also, I was under the impression that Zenio is indeed a ZvZ specialist. Not as good as NesTea, obviously, but it's one of his stronger match-ups.
lrofd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States187 Posts
July 19 2011 22:20 GMT
#18
[QUOTE]On July 20 2011 05:13 phyre112 wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 20 2011 03:10 The Final Boss wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 20 2011 03:03 Reasonable wrote:
Zenio on the other hand, has pretty poor ZvZ as far as I remember, [/QUOTE]


wait what? you watched him play in the NASL last 2-3 months
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 19 2011 23:08 GMT
#19
I have to assume that MC asked for this, as sort of a grudge match vs the whole Prime team, due to his recent match vs Hongun. He probably wants to prove he could all-kill Prime. If he succeeds, it would be a great achievement, but it seems a bit too high-shooting, even for him. Normally teams don't start with their top player, that's why I assume this. GL HF to MC in any case, and hope oGs wins.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 19 2011 23:30 GMT
#20
On July 20 2011 08:08 figq wrote:
I have to assume that MC asked for this, as sort of a grudge match vs the whole Prime team, due to his recent match vs Hongun. He probably wants to prove he could all-kill Prime. If he succeeds, it would be a great achievement, but it seems a bit too high-shooting, even for him. Normally teams don't start with their top player, that's why I assume this. GL HF to MC in any case, and hope oGs wins.

the starters were announced before MC's match against hongun
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