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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=210568
I understand it is a controversial subject, that is part of what makes for good discussions imo.
However, the reason the mod closed the thread was that it "had nothing to do with [...] anything concerning reality."
This despite the fact that I repeatedly included numbers from and stated my reputable sources such as the government's own accounting offices. The suggestion that the topic of economic illiquidity has "nothing concerning reality" cannot come across to me as anything but willful naivete. What can I possibly do to base my statements on fact except cite the government's own numbers, statistics, and statements?
Is the possibility of economic depression really beyond the realm of possibility? Didn't it already occur less than a century ago?
EDIT:
My sources as provided in the OP include:
The federal reserve's statistical release
the treasury departments website
the bureau of economic analysis of the us department of commerce
the international monetary funds july 2010 selected issues paper
These things do not concern reality?
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Here's the beauty of controversial topics: they aren't. They always turn ugly and often times become derailed more by opinion than actual factual extension.
I think the reason your topic was closed was not because the staff member didn't believe it could happen, but rather that it could happen, much like many other factors that could contribute to an economic downfall.
Here's what I enjoyed the most of your topic: As I know how easily subjects such as these can be treated with sensationalism and paranoia
1) To recognize the signs and symptoms of economic instability and to convert your fiat currency to tangible goods while it still has value
2) Supplies and education regarding first aid, survival techniques, emergency preparedness, etc. These are of course good things to have regardless of your beliefs on economics.
3) A weapon and the competence to defend yourself. All the preparation in the world can go out the window when you have a gun pointed at you. You may believe that we will peacefully weather the coming storm just as we did the previous Great Depression. I, however, have difficulty accepting the idea that the modern generation will be content to work for pennies and stand in soup lines.
The two quotes show the irony of the whole topic. You had some great factual information and then you soiled it with an introductory statement and enumerated contradiction.
You have an interesting start but your whole topic is a connect the dots idea: 1. Economy is failing, look at our lack of money ---------> 2. World is gonna end, paper will be paper, buy can goods and go into a bunker.
There's no question of naivete, but I would probably stack this topic along with the enjoyment of listening to Cold War debates and news. What Ifs will be what ifs and to quote the staff member; "Feel free to PM me "I told you so" when America collapses and TL's servers are stolen and/or destroyed."
When it happens, start a topic. Otherwise, I think the TL wants the "what ifs" to something a bit more... realistic? No. perhaps just not as general or broad of a topic.
this is my opinion
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United States22883 Posts
It's nothing but fear mongering. You advised people to stock up on salt and weapons.
You're also misinformed and are freely interchanging bankruptcy and defaulting, which are not at all the same.
The irony of it is that your new thread has attracted the exact type of crazies we seek to avoid while your first thread, albeit on the fear-mongering crazy side of things, at least tried to downplay the gold/silver/anti-fiat crazies. Given this is the internet, about 80% of its inhabitants awkwardly believe gold has some inherent value, it's almost easier to just shut them all down rather than trying to reason with them.
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United States11393 Posts
I wasn't one who closed it but I'd assume that it was due to not just bumping your previous blog.
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Australia7069 Posts
The problem with blogs is they dont get bumped in the main forum view if you just bump the,. is there a better solution to this?
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Update the OP then post that you have. That's my best suggestion if it's valid.
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Calgary26004 Posts
I closed it. "I'm streaming ________" threads aren't allowed. Use twitter or IRC or whatever other avenue you want to get the word out. Otherwise, the Blog section because the "I'm streaming ______" section.
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It's been reported already, I'm not sure if it's pending a decision or it truly is accepted. I don't understand either. The whole thing is a swamp of angry and troll-like natured people.
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Hyrule19260 Posts
A post that old already been reported with no action probably means the mods decided it was fine and required no action.
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Someone told me it's being discussed, but if not; it seems a bit out of place with TL's views and values of E-Sports in general, right?
That's my point of view anyways.
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On April 15 2011 07:40 tofucake wrote:
A post that old already been reported with no action probably means the mods decided it was fine and required no action.
I'm aware that it was reported, which is why I came to ask for their rationale.
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On April 15 2011 08:46 Craton wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 07:40 tofucake wrote:
A post that old already been reported with no action probably means the mods decided it was fine and required no action. I'm aware that it was reported, which is why I came to ask for their rationale.
fakesteve actually explains this on page 2 of that thread:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 06 2011 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i don't see a problem with this thread. yes, this section is meant to be more of a resource than anything else, but that isn't to say it's not allowed to make LoL-specific jokes or joke threads. the last one got axed because it was offensive.
probably gonna have a chat with the rest of staff to see if we're all on the same page on the matter, but for now i'll say this thread is np On April 06 2011 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
if it's well-executed and actually funny, yes. caller's OP has obvious effort in it, his jokes make sense, etc etc. its a good thread, just questionable whether it belongs here or not. i'm leaning towards yes
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I'm wondering why the "NaDa's Hair" thread got closed.
I'm fully aware that there's the "NaDa's Body" thread that's been around for two years, but that's in the Starcraft: Brood War part of the site. The Starcraft 2 section lacks its equivalent to that so-far 117 119 page thread. The "NaDa's Hair" thread could have been a good start to that. Even if the first two pages of the thread were a parody of "NaDa's Body".
At the very least, it would have been a place to admire all the Starcraft 2 pro-gamers for the Starcraft 2 fandom... 
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Oh. My thread is discussed here? Happy surprise. Thanks heishe for asking for me.
I wanted also to ask because I want to know more but I dont want to spam. Accidentally I see here. kk. Torte Im sorry you imply Im troll? I already answer that question. Sorry if my English is not good like you.
User was warned for this post
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While Im here. Can I also request? I PM already to LosingID8 twice. But I think Jaedong's Booty thread really deserve to have own thread. He is 5 gold, and he is progamer with many fans and also a nice person. So please reopen. Thanks
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100673
You can p.m any staff member most of the time on why your topic was closed and most will have an equal, if not, similar answer to why the actual staff member closed it.
My best guess; He's a progamer for his skill, not for his body or his personality. Nada's body is epic and original of a topic and totally caught people off-guard. It's become the central totem to post pictures and anything about the body of these pro gamers in general, not just Nada (essentially, the topic has widened its acceptable deviations).
A whole topic about Jaedong's buttocks is a redundancy and it would create a precedence that would allow other people to post whole topics about specific pro gamers and their bodies.
a.k.a: Keep it in the Nada's body topic. :3 That's my best idea of why it was closed.
On April 20 2011 23:51 GG.NoRe wrote:Oh. My thread is discussed here? Happy surprise. Thanks heishe for asking for me. I wanted also to ask because I want to know more but I dont want to spam. Accidentally I see here. kk. Torte Im sorry you imply Im troll? I already answer that question. Sorry if my English is not good like you. User was warned for this post
I was merely trying to answer your question. Maybe the topic was simply inappropriate, it would seem like something you'd need to figure on your own and it could incite problems with some other people's responses.
No other implications on my part.
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