EPTThe why was my thread closed topic - Page 22
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LayOffRage
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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CDRdude, a better idea would be for fan pages not to exist at all and everyone just use the streamers thread for it. But if people like baller can have fan pages then I don't see why Destiny who puts actual time and effort into his stream can't have one. I am just saying how the rationale and reasoning for him not to have a fan club thread is completely unfair. At first you guys said because of his skill which doesn't make sense when talking about a fan page, and now you jump to being angry over syndicate starting a fight and him having people post some crap in his thread which I would say is not nearly as detrimental to the site as you guys are implying. | ||
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freeto
United States122 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:20 zatic wrote: There is no campaign. Period. Laughable is what you are suggesting. Most of us have simply no idea who Destiny is. If he places well in tournaments (= top player) his stream will get featured. It's very very simple. hes beaten lots of top players in tournaments, ladder, and arranged matches. hes also significantly better than or equal to a ton of featured streams. for example i see response and trump are streaming right now. i know for a fact that steven has beaten both of them multiple times and they consider him an equally skilled player. | ||
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Destiny
United States280 Posts
Whether or not a fan page goes up, nothing is going to change, and I'm cool with anything, really. Having viewers is good enough, I don't need a fan page or anything to bolster any e-cred or something. The problem is that some of you guys (see: zatic) are a little bit full of shit. If you don't want to have a fan thread because I encouraged members to all post "LESS QQ MORE IMPROVE" in someone's comment thread, then that's fine. I can understand that; utilizing teamliquid's resources to troll someone when teamliquid has provided you with 95% of your viewers is a pretty disrespectful thing to do. I've apologized for it and I regret doing it, but it's still been done. But don't say "he's not top player/not respected/not well known" when I play better, am more respected, and am more known than a decent number of featured streamers. It makes you look uneducated, spiteful, and vindictive. I'm clearly known (can easily stream 1k+ viewers), a decent player (as evidenced by SC2ranks, my matches against very highly rated players, and blizzard's master list), and I've beaten or put up some good games against some very well known and featured players (response, lzgamer, machine, artosis, catz, cellawerra, minigun, drewbie, just to name a few). Regardless, whether or not I have a fan thread, or whether or not one's even allowed for me, really isn't the issue. Just don't start listing a bunch of clearly BS reasons why you won't allow one. =/ | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
On January 11 2011 06:41 Chill wrote: I'm nearly 100% sure Day[9] has never encouraged people to spam our forums. http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3534775 Watch the first ~30 seconds..... He's done some similar things near the end of episodes as well..... And they've resulted in a few dumbasses making a post of some kind about it..... It's done for a joking purpose, basically. It's totally a different story than any requests to maliciously spam someone. Then again, if Destiny asked his "followers" to maliciously spam TL (or anyone else), you guys would have probably banned him already, or at least threatened to ban him for it..... so I doubt his requests to spam anyone were malicious either..... Which doesn't really mean it's any different..... | ||
micronesia
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garrhead1
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
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lipidro
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freeto
United States122 Posts
he sounds pretty good, but hasnt really won any major tournaments or done anything big in the community. weird... | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On January 11 2011 09:57 freeto wrote: who is sin btw? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179620 he sounds pretty good, but hasnt really won any major tournaments or done anything big in the community. weird... This situation looks like it's going to get even messier... | ||
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lipidro
15 Posts
On January 11 2011 10:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote: This situation looks like it's going to get even messier... Had a less ridiculous reason been given then it probably wouldn't look that way. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
On January 11 2011 09:23 micronesia wrote: lol he didn't say to do it on tl Ok. I HAVE PROOF!!!!! ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/YXB2z.png) ![[image loading]](http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4018/32551596.jpg) | ||
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freeto
United States122 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 11 2011 09:57 freeto wrote: As you can probably tell from the other fanclub thread, it's something that's being sorted out because I agree, the possibilities for a fanclub for everyone seem too open. At the very least respect the fact that it's been two weeks since he was unbanned ("in the past" arguments don't work, Monkeyspanker) so "the doghouse" seems more than reasonable enough for me.who is sin btw? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179620 he sounds pretty good, but hasnt really won any major tournaments or done anything big in the community. weird... Destiny, I apologize. I followed your stream for several months after release but I hadn't paid attention to your recent UG results. Those are certainly eye opening and I'll watch if you're playing in any other tournaments. There is no purely objective formula for featuring. I gave you the main criteria involved, and we find a balance that we like. In Destiny's case, it was brought up even before the Syndicate crap happened and the decision was the same. It is subjective but I can guarantee you besides a few extreme cases, the subjectivity works in the favor of the streamer. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
I can understand not featuring him right now because of what he did on his stream a few weeks ago, but that was not the issue at hand. Destiny's fans just don't understand why you let other random fanclubs be open but not a fanclub for him when a has nothing to do with what bad things he had done in the past. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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TheBrofessor
Canada429 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On January 11 2011 12:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I am saying it is not as related as you guys were pretending earlier. On top of that the reason listed for it being closed was because Destiny sucks and no one has ever heard of him. Yes its a FORM of promotion but it wouldn't necessarily lead to a huge spike in viewers, maybe a small increase, unlike featuring which could easily double someones viewer count. I don't see how a fan thread is a privilege for Destiny which you are trying to imply. If it was something he really cared about then he would of made the thread. You closed something belonging to the community because of an issue with him. Fanclub and featuring are not anywhere near as related as you are trying to implicate. Look, that's just not true. You can keep repeating it, but just like featuring, it has a dual purpose of being for the fans/viewers and being for the person. | ||
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