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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 00:19:10
September 09 2008 00:18 GMT
#1
Preemptive strike.

Your blog was closed because it was one of the following:
- Mistaken as your diary (ie no one else cares)
- Not funny when intended to be
- A copy / paste that isn't extremely funny
- Going to generate zero discussion / helps no one
- A request that was missing the majority of information to let people help you

All the above follow a common theme: they have zero thought put in. Stop posting everything that crosses your mind into a blog. Please!

In the mean time:
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
September 09 2008 04:51 GMT
#2
Chill are you going to moderate blogs now?

GOOD LUCK
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 09 2008 05:22 GMT
#3
First he rules the strategy forum, now blogs, i think he might have a heart attack
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 06:40:35
September 09 2008 06:38 GMT
#4
case in point:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=74301
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=77736


edit:
On May 27 2007 15:14 Liquid`Meat wrote:

[...]

You are free to post about whatever you like, however regular forum rules apply. So no advertising is allowed and you can only post in english.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/
So check out the blogs and happy blogging!

Moonlight Shadow
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
September 09 2008 10:12 GMT
#5
extremely arbitrary and lame purge imo, i think your efforts could be put to better use than trying to tightly moderate a feature of TL that exists to be loosely moderated. take this purge crap to general, which has always been the shittiest and most uninteresting forum
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
September 09 2008 11:21 GMT
#6
Yeah this is dumb.

Besides:

"Mistaken as your diary (ie no one else cares)"

A blog is mostly used for spilling your thoughts about stuff and that could definitely be things that happened to you. Blogs over at liquidpoker are almost always about how their day at poker went and it's definitely interesting for others to read while it is kind of diary-style.

"Going to generate zero discussion / helps no one"

Who cares, it's their blog. As far as I know when people don't care they don't read it/don't comment on it so whateverrr.
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 12:38:28
September 09 2008 11:40 GMT
#7
As much as I HATE blogs and wish they had never been implemented (what the hell are blogs doing on a starcraft site) I think this is impossible to moderate. You can't just lock blogs because you dislike them.

Edit: Seriously though, someone explain to me why blogs were added. I hear they were originally for blizzcon/etc but come on, what does hearing about someone's relationship problems add to the site? Is that why you come to teamliquid, to read this shit?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 09 2008 11:44 GMT
#8
This is something which needs to be discussed imo. Blogs do need some level of moderation, or atleast someway to differentiate good from bad.
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Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
September 09 2008 12:17 GMT
#9
Isn't your first reason why blogs exist in the first place? A public diary of your thoughts?...
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
September 09 2008 12:26 GMT
#10
As long as random picture of a girl every day blogs don't come back, I'll be ok ignoring blogs.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 14:17:47
September 09 2008 14:12 GMT
#11
i agree with chill. these blogs suck. blogs should be moderated for the quality of their content. the great freedom of blogs concerns the topics that they can cover, not the effort allowed.

look at mani's blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=53908

one of these guys with a closed blog post would make this blog for mani:

hi there was a big sale today. when big sales happen i guess people go crazy and they get violent and stuff. i had it all planned out so i just ran in and got my stuff and ran out cuz im awesome. i saved like 12 bucks. share your shopping stories in this blog!


there are many examples of how you can make any topic amazing or any topic horrible. i dont see what's wrong with having moderators get rid of the horrible. as a reader, i appreciate it

as a blogger, if you feel the topic isn't important enough to spend time putting effort into the blog, then don't blog. if it's worth the effort, then give it the effort. if you're posting something inherently low effort, like a copy/paste, you better know your audience damn well. low post count users doing that shit have a very low success rate.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 09 2008 14:32 GMT
#12
I have to agree with Twisted and company. I don't blog, but if I did I probably wouldn't do it to impress people and I wouldn't have an obligation to make anybody laugh. If I blogged I would probably post stuff that needed to be said but nobody ever says it. e.g. Michelle Rodriguez is a terrible actress and is always typecast as a stuck up tough girl, or nectarines should be more popular than peaches because they taste similar and don't have fuzz on them. From my understanding, for a lot of people blogging is supposed to be some kind of escape or release after a day of work or school, it's not supposed to be homework. This is probably the most heavily moderated site I know of. People need at least some space to express their thoughts without having everything they say scrutinized.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
September 09 2008 14:33 GMT
#13
stick with the original mandate of the blog section, so what meat wrote in that quote. the whole reason blogs were created and separated from the general forum is so that people can write random shit and not have to worry about getting their shit closed or getting temp banned for 2 days (wtf?)
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
September 09 2008 15:14 GMT
#14
It's being discussed guys :p
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32089 Posts
September 09 2008 15:52 GMT
#15
It needs some form of moderation. Too many retards posting several blogs a day/week about the same bullshit. That's annoying as hell. And fucking emo shit about girls, jeeeeeesus
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 09 2008 16:35 GMT
#16
if blogs are going to be moderated even close to the extent that the OP mentions then theres no point of having a blog section and you might as well shut down it down and have everyone to post in general instead

blackjack is spot on
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
September 09 2008 16:52 GMT
#17
Just make sure it has content in it and smells a little of effort.

The blog section is not your notepad to spew whatever you want.
Moderator
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
September 09 2008 16:59 GMT
#18
the difference between general and blogs is that blogs is for personal things or things directly related to your life and general is impersonal. there are a few exceptions here and there, but that's the gist of it. this whole "blogs is for bad posts" is ridiculous. it's understandable if there is one section of the forum that is basically unmoderated, and that happens to blogs, but that's unrelated to the purpose of a blog section.

as usual, my philosophy always leans toward the purpose of a forum being user-generated content, not a place for users to screw around. and thus the purpose of moderation is to guide the user-generated content in the right direction. pruning bullshit horrible posts is a fundamental part of that. it's understandable if they set aside blogs as unmoderated, but if chill is volunteering to mod it, because he sees the potential in great blogs (and how can you not if you've read tl.net's good blogs), then it's silly to stop him
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
September 09 2008 18:46 GMT
#19
On September 10 2008 01:59 NonY[rC] wrote:
the difference between general and blogs is that blogs is for personal things or things directly related to your life and general is impersonal. there are a few exceptions here and there, but that's the gist of it. this whole "blogs is for bad posts" is ridiculous. it's understandable if there is one section of the forum that is basically unmoderated, and that happens to blogs, but that's unrelated to the purpose of a blog section.

as usual, my philosophy always leans toward the purpose of a forum being user-generated content, not a place for users to screw around. and thus the purpose of moderation is to guide the user-generated content in the right direction. pruning bullshit horrible posts is a fundamental part of that. it's understandable if they set aside blogs as unmoderated, but if chill is volunteering to mod it, because he sees the potential in great blogs (and how can you not if you've read tl.net's good blogs), then it's silly to stop him


Mainly agreeing with this.
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
September 09 2008 20:27 GMT
#20
On September 10 2008 03:46 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 01:59 NonY[rC] wrote:
the difference between general and blogs is that blogs is for personal things or things directly related to your life and general is impersonal. there are a few exceptions here and there, but that's the gist of it. this whole "blogs is for bad posts" is ridiculous. it's understandable if there is one section of the forum that is basically unmoderated, and that happens to blogs, but that's unrelated to the purpose of a blog section.

as usual, my philosophy always leans toward the purpose of a forum being user-generated content, not a place for users to screw around. and thus the purpose of moderation is to guide the user-generated content in the right direction. pruning bullshit horrible posts is a fundamental part of that. it's understandable if they set aside blogs as unmoderated, but if chill is volunteering to mod it, because he sees the potential in great blogs (and how can you not if you've read tl.net's good blogs), then it's silly to stop him


Mainly agreeing with this.


Seconded, when do we bring out the pitchforks and torches?
^-^
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 20:54:21
September 09 2008 20:53 GMT
#21
imo Blogs should only be a resource for static informations. No random crap here and there, that is what general is for.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
September 09 2008 22:09 GMT
#22
On September 10 2008 05:53 CharlieMurphy wrote:
imo Blogs should only be a resource for static informations. No random crap here and there, that is what general is for.

whats static informations and whats random crap
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 23:42:11
September 09 2008 23:41 GMT
#23


Random crap: Current events public/private or random picture threads or joke threads etc. etc.

Static Info: Guides, Facts, FAQs, etc.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
September 10 2008 00:26 GMT
#24
thats not what blogs are though

if someone is looking for the stuff mentioned above, then they should be looking in featured threads or the appropriate forum.
Moonlight Shadow
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 10 2008 03:25 GMT
#25
dont moderate blogs! D:
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 10 2008 04:27 GMT
#26
I agree with nony and chill

I dont think blogs should be moderated for subject, but should be moderated for effort
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
September 10 2008 05:17 GMT
#27
fight the power!!!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 10 2008 08:23 GMT
#28
On September 10 2008 09:26 useLess wrote:
thats not what blogs are though

if someone is looking for the stuff mentioned above, then they should be looking in featured threads or the appropriate forum.

You see then this is the type of stuff that should go in general.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
September 10 2008 10:40 GMT
#29
If the person puts a personal effort into the blog who gives a shit if no one reads it? I agree 2 line spills that are personally useless to the blogger should be closed.
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
September 10 2008 16:34 GMT
#30
On September 10 2008 17:23 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2008 09:26 useLess wrote:
thats not what blogs are though

if someone is looking for the stuff mentioned above, then they should be looking in featured threads or the appropriate forum.

You see then this is the type of stuff that should go in general.

logic police

CharlieMurphy: static info should go in blogs, general should be random crap

Hot_Bid: whats static info?

CharlieMurphy: static info is FAQs and guides, random crap is political discussions

useless: FAQs and guides should be in featured and specialized forums

CharlieMurphy: yes, they should be in general
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 10 2008 17:00 GMT
#31
lol
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
September 10 2008 17:50 GMT
#32
The unmoderated blog section is really interesting. All the retarded entries, the stupid shit, the girl threads, and the occasional good ones put together almost seems like a really weird artform. If some large statue of a super saiyan blowing his load everywhere can pass as art, the teamliquid blog section should also be considered as such and be protected.

I mean it's hard to find where to draw the line. What's stupid shit to one person could be very entertaining, or maybe even informative to someone else. But if you start taking out all the 'bad' blogs, people won't really know if they should post anymore. The people that make good blogs will continue regardless of whether there are shitty ones around them or not.

Blogs shouldn't be only for the occasional 'i love teamliquid moment' like the rayolacrayola blog or the rpf facebook thing. You can't expect every blog to be either a good one like manifesto's or one of the funny retarded ones. And if they were, we'd get tired of them. We definetly appreciate them more with all the crappier ones around.

So if you want to moderate the blog section heavilly, try to do it with style or some kind of humor. And don't put the closed blogs at that alternate universe where noone can see them, let the trophies gather in the closed section.

bg
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
September 10 2008 18:16 GMT
#33
My only criteria is effort, not content. If you think about your blog it won't get closed.
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Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
September 10 2008 19:57 GMT
#34
Should definitely invest the time in something more useful. :/
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 11 2008 07:10 GMT
#35
I thought he meant the random stuff, obviously Hot_bid.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
September 11 2008 10:27 GMT
#36
let's say i were to post this as my blog:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


it required little effort to find and post the picture, yet it could generate a fair amount of discussion and debate. why articulate something when a picture (thousand words, etc) can do the same for you?
Moonlight Shadow
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
September 11 2008 11:25 GMT
#37
Purge is over. Useless bullshit wins in the end.
Moderator
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33487 Posts
September 11 2008 14:50 GMT
#38
On September 11 2008 20:25 Chill wrote:
Purge is over. Useless bullshit wins in the end.


thank god, communism wins again
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
September 11 2008 20:08 GMT
#39
There's an unlimited supply of useless bullshit and only one Chill
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 13 2008 03:24 GMT
#40
On September 11 2008 20:25 Chill wrote:
Purge is over. Useless bullshit wins in the end.


You caved? NOOO CHILLL FIGHT TEH POWAAAA
...
wait, you are the power
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-13 03:33:27
September 13 2008 03:32 GMT
#41
Pick someone you hate and give them powers in the blogs section and tell them they have to do a good job moderating or else.

There are other strategies for cleaning up the blogs section that will be more effective in the long run, but they require more effort.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 13 2008 04:06 GMT
#42
On September 13 2008 12:32 micronesia wrote:
Pick someone you hate and give them powers in the blogs section and tell them they have to do a good job moderating or else.

There are other strategies for cleaning up the blogs section that will be more effective in the long run, but they require more effort.


You'd also have to give some form of incentive as well for doing an amazing job. But it could be done, look at how well the sc2 forum and strat have been cleared compared to what they used to be like
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
September 13 2008 19:15 GMT
#43
Give me blog moderation powers and I'll turn it into a gentleman like in that movie or something that got parodied by a million things like the simpsons where lisa teaches groundskeeper willy to be super sophisticated.
bg
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 13 2008 19:58 GMT
#44
I've never seen that episode what else is it parodied in can you tell me anyways you really need to use some commas or something but back to my main point that sounds like a kickass movie and a gentleman forum would be cool we could be just like that movie with sean connory not indiana jones but the other one

that would be tight
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Pwntrucci[sR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1519 Posts
September 13 2008 20:08 GMT
#45
It's also in that episode of familly guy where stewie bets with brian that he can teach the english girl how to talk correctly and there's that scene where he's trying to make her say a tongue twister and she keeps failling then she gets it and they burst into a cheesy lame song.

So yeah I'll do that with the blog section, with the song and everything.
bg
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
September 13 2008 20:36 GMT
#46
The movie is My Fair Lady.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
September 13 2008 21:24 GMT
#47
The life of the wife is ended by the knoife.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
September 14 2008 04:36 GMT
#48
On September 11 2008 20:25 Chill wrote:
Purge is over. Useless bullshit wins in the end.

Whew.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 15 2008 20:07 GMT
#49
On September 13 2008 12:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2008 20:25 Chill wrote:
Purge is over. Useless bullshit wins in the end.


You caved? NOOO CHILLL FIGHT TEH POWAAAA
...
wait, you are the power


heehe ;o
anyways,
TBH, if blogs were moderated, might as well just make another general forum; because that's essentially what it will be
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