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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 29 2018 14:56 GMT
#3081
On June 29 2018 22:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 02:51 Excludos wrote:
On June 29 2018 01:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
A reminder that the thread is becoming wild again. Ok. We'll try our best to fulfill that.

Also looked up images of this pbj sandwiches. Looks disgusting.


So does Kebab, but it's still pretty good.

Tried another American staple today: Fluffernutter. It's really good, but I'm still coming down from the diabetes shock.

Still a bit unsure what all of this have to do with American Politics..


I'd never heard of a fluffernutter until today. Huh. Maybe I'm not a Real American.

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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23220 Posts
June 29 2018 17:19 GMT
#3082
I was torn at first but now I feel like the last page is actually a pretty good summary of US politics and the moderation.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
June 29 2018 18:04 GMT
#3083
On June 30 2018 02:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
I was torn at first but now I feel like the last page is actually a pretty good summary of US politics and the moderation.

Feel free to elaborate instead of being passive/aggressive.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23220 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-29 20:12:50
June 29 2018 19:27 GMT
#3084
On June 30 2018 03:04 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 02:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
I was torn at first but now I feel like the last page is actually a pretty good summary of US politics and the moderation.

Feel free to elaborate instead of being passive/aggressive.


Basically just predicting what comes after this:

On June 30 2018 04:26 farvacola wrote:
Here comes the ethnostate talk again.


EDIT: To expand a bit

On June 30 2018 05:09 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 05:05 JimmiC wrote:
On June 30 2018 05:03 xDaunt wrote:
On June 30 2018 05:01 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2018 04:53 xDaunt wrote:
On June 30 2018 04:50 Plansix wrote:
On June 30 2018 04:48 xDaunt wrote:
On June 30 2018 04:45 JimmiC wrote:
On June 30 2018 04:43 xDaunt wrote:
On June 30 2018 04:41 farvacola wrote:
[quote]
[quote]
JimmiC and dauntless' posts just above this one are perfect contrasting examples of how to regard the politics of a particular nation. One loads up the polemics, twists the inferences in favor of false certainty, and basically says nothing other than "I HATE NON CAPITALISTS" while the other is equivocal, conscientious in its conclusions, and careful to cabin it's conclusions with an acknowledgement that Venezuela's problems may have more to do with the people in power than the name of the system the nation claims to follow.

Thank you for that

Venezuela is a democratic country. Maduro is a reflection of Venezuela's people and its institutions. So yes, I feel quite comfortable indicting both.


They are as democratic as Russia.

Yep. And Putin is also a reflection of the Russian people. I'll say the same thing about the Chinese and China. They like their totalitarian leadership with the trappings of quasi-democracy.

It is reflective of section of Russian people that openly support Putin. The ones who don’t support him don’t speak out of fear and their numbers are unknown.

Do you doubt that Putin has majority support in Russia? I don't. I'm sure that there are dissenters, but it doesn't change the fact that Putin reflects the majority of Russians.

Just to be clear, y'all aren't imprinting your own values upon the peoples of these other countries, are you? Not everyone accepts the superiority of our western sensibilities, and, consequently, they have very different ideas regarding the relationship between the individual and the state than we do.

Do I doubt that Putin has the majority of support in Russia? Yes, I have doubts he has majority support. Do I believe that Russians might have a different opinion of him if they had a free and open press? Yes.

I am not even imprinting my own values on Russia. I see Russia for what it is, a foreign country that has a government invested in repressing information, both to its people and to foreign powers. There are sections of Russia that are black boxes. I do not feel I have enough information to believe anything about that countries politics with certainty.


So why do you think that Russia relapsed back into authoritarianism after the fall of the Soviet Union?


Wait do you think that happened because the people wanted authoritarianism?

"Want" is probably too strong of a word. But think about how the Russian people have been conditioned to live over the past millennium. If there are two things that the Russians know, they are suffering and dictators. Freedom isn't exactly something that comes naturally to Russians.


Maybe it's because he's only using "Russians" now, but this is some sick dangerous rhetoric imo. It'll get worse before it get's better though.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 29 2018 22:12 GMT
#3085
There are better ways frame a nation’s culture of a democratic tradition or distrust of democracy, that is for sure.

But we did come dangerous close to the ethnostate arguments again with “blocks of voters incompatible with the larger American society.” Reminds me of the rhetoric used to talk about Italians and the Irish because they were Catholics.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 29 2018 22:55 GMT
#3086
Tbh responding “here comes the ethnostate” to a long discussion + Show Spoiler +
starting post, and three following
On June 30 2018 04:04 xDaunt wrote:
Let's be perfectly clear on what happened in Venezuela under Chavez. He seized all of the foreign-owned oil assets like a good commie and then promptly ran them all into the ground as commies tend to do. The fact that a country as oil rich as Venezuela failed as badly as it has is about as damning of an indictment as you can make on radical socialist policies such as those implemented by Chavez and Maduro.

And the fact that people still revere Chavez is proof enough for me that are certain peoples that we just don't want coming to the US. Anyone who thinks that what Chavez did is a good idea is not compatible with a modern Western state like the US. Property rights matter when it comes to sustained economic success. The unfortunate reality is that Latin American states have a rather poor track record of understanding this. Like I mentioned earlier, I worry that we may see this continue when Obrador takes over Mexico. So yeah, build that wall.

is some of the stupidest engagement possible. What say you, Seeker?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
June 29 2018 23:38 GMT
#3087
On June 30 2018 07:55 Danglars wrote:
Tbh responding “here comes the ethnostate” to a long discussion + Show Spoiler +
starting post, and three following
On June 30 2018 04:04 xDaunt wrote:
Let's be perfectly clear on what happened in Venezuela under Chavez. He seized all of the foreign-owned oil assets like a good commie and then promptly ran them all into the ground as commies tend to do. The fact that a country as oil rich as Venezuela failed as badly as it has is about as damning of an indictment as you can make on radical socialist policies such as those implemented by Chavez and Maduro.

And the fact that people still revere Chavez is proof enough for me that are certain peoples that we just don't want coming to the US. Anyone who thinks that what Chavez did is a good idea is not compatible with a modern Western state like the US. Property rights matter when it comes to sustained economic success. The unfortunate reality is that Latin American states have a rather poor track record of understanding this. Like I mentioned earlier, I worry that we may see this continue when Obrador takes over Mexico. So yeah, build that wall.

is some of the stupidest engagement possible. What say you, Seeker?

Yes. It's a stupid low content post that doesn't contribute anything to the discussions that were being had.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 29 2018 23:46 GMT
#3088
Farvacola specifically makes a lot of those side-troll posts. Far from the only one, though, so it's mostly a question of what quantity of "+1" posts is desired.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
June 29 2018 23:54 GMT
#3089
On June 30 2018 08:46 LegalLord wrote:
Farvacola specifically makes a lot of those side-troll posts. Far from the only one, though, so it's mostly a question of what quantity of "+1" posts is desired.


I think it should be allowed as long as the person is also contributing to the conversation in a meaningful way elsewhere.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2018 00:00 GMT
#3090
To be fair to Fav, dauntless has said he won’t respond to Fav’s posts, even when it is a discussion about the law, as both of them are the .Esq.

And Favs lower content posters normally pretty witty. The subject post his not his best work.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
June 30 2018 01:00 GMT
#3091
lol, Danglars reported him right after I said that it was a stupid post. Danglars got the last laugh this time
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23220 Posts
June 30 2018 01:02 GMT
#3092
On June 30 2018 10:00 Seeker wrote:
lol, Danglars reported him right after I said that it was a stupid post. Danglars got the last laugh this time


Should have known better than to think a stupid post that adds nothing to the discussion would be reportable.

RIP Danglars report stats.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2018 01:07 GMT
#3093
Doing God’s work one report at a time.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
June 30 2018 01:26 GMT
#3094
On June 30 2018 10:00 Seeker wrote:
lol, Danglars reported him right after I said that it was a stupid post. Danglars got the last laugh this time

If the post is problematic, then why don’t you just report it and let the mods sort it out?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-30 01:51:43
June 30 2018 01:32 GMT
#3095
On June 30 2018 10:26 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 10:00 Seeker wrote:
lol, Danglars reported him right after I said that it was a stupid post. Danglars got the last laugh this time

If the post is problematic, then why don’t you just report it and let the mods sort it out?

It's hard to know what flies these days. The left posters meet for group right-wing snide mockery every couple days now

On June 30 2018 10:00 Seeker wrote:
lol, Danglars reported him right after I said that it was a stupid post. Danglars got the last laugh this time

Mods got the last laugh. It wasn't actioned.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2018 01:52 GMT
#3096
I don’t report the low content: “What you said isn’t relevant and I’ll leave you to explain to the thread why,” that get dropped every once and a while. They are equally garbage posts, but I can respect that people sometimes get back on their bullshit for a day or two. None of us are free from sin.

And let us never forget LL reign as the One True King +1 poster when it came to the subject of electability. A legion unto himself, passive aggressively trolling the tread for a fight about HRC.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 30 2018 01:55 GMT
#3097
Yeah and LL was dead right at the masses of sincere individuals that spent almost a year talking about just that factor. The DNC should hire him on for his foresight to see what actually ended up happening.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2018 02:02 GMT
#3098
Bro, this was after the election. He was glad handing himself for picking the correct one out of two options.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-30 02:10:19
June 30 2018 02:09 GMT
#3099
I made a soft bet that if Trump somehow won that I would be a relentless ass about it for as long as it was still fun. The deal was something along the lines of, “I’ll stop talking about electability for now, but if Trump wins...”

Really didn’t expect to get the last laugh on that one.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 30 2018 02:18 GMT
#3100
+1 posting is fun from time to time. Own your bullshit and it’s all good.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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