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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
April 15 2012 00:41 GMT
#21
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=312784
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204883
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 00:44:20
April 15 2012 00:42 GMT
#22
On April 15 2012 09:39 Josh_rakoons wrote:
I'm pretty sure there have been plenty of gaming charity events which have had threads on TL. Could be wrong, i have no evidence on this currently.



Get some evidence, come back and hopefully we can either show you the difference or perhaps rectify the mistake.
From my knowledge, there has been one in which it was personally supported by flicky: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173646

edit: and you did!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 00:44:57
April 15 2012 00:44 GMT
#23
On April 15 2012 09:41 Josh_rakoons wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=312784
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204883



Twitch.tv is directly involved with Team Liquid (sponsors the team and various other teams/players). They're the pinnacle of StarCraft II's growth and immersing into an established world.

I have nothing to say about Mojam

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=charity&t=t&f=-1&u=&gb=date&d=

Choose some more!
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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
April 15 2012 00:50 GMT
#24
That thread was made well before the sponsorship.

Please, please, keep making my point stronger, its great.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 15 2012 00:51 GMT
#25
On April 15 2012 09:50 Josh_rakoons wrote:
That thread was made well before the sponsorship.

Please, please, keep making my point stronger, its great.


Even before the sponsorship, Twitch.tv is still a major contributor to the scene.
Athene is not.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 00:55:54
April 15 2012 00:51 GMT
#26
1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE

You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accommodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions (Website Feedback Forum). But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply ban you.

- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883

It's not a public forum and so you have to view the rules as not entirely objective.


I think we now know who's point is the strongest.
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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 00:56:28
April 15 2012 00:53 GMT
#27
Btw, that thread isnt made by the official twitch.tv its just twitch gaming.

Release of twitch.tv : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230868 (look at date)

Keep on with the excuses, im hoping the next one will be as amusing as your last.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 15 2012 00:56 GMT
#28
You're right! I stand corrected.
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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
April 15 2012 00:57 GMT
#29
WELL, this was fun and all, but is anything actually going to be done about this, or are just going to ignorantly follow by the TL policy without questioning and iterating upon it?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 00:59:50
April 15 2012 00:58 GMT
#30
There are plenty of avenues to support charities available on the internet and more traditional methods.

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHMO_enUS472US472&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=charity forum

If you want a forum for charities there you go. In ten seconds I found 146,000,000 options. Most of your comments in this thread just bash TL or complain. Why not try to be constructive if you are very passionate about this issue.

Show the TL community that Athene cares, get an interview with him personally. PM a moderator your interview and discuss the possibility of gaining exposure for a great cause. None of these may work, but if so you cannot say you did not try.

At this point you're just whining.

*edit - Holy shit, you are not trying to help this situation at all are you? Ignorantly following policy? If you really care, be constructive and don't shit on this idea. You're wasting everyone's time.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 01:01:13
April 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#31
Oh, he doesnt care about this project at all, you know, he's only going on a hunger strike for 4 weeks, nothing big.

Here ya go buddy, he's your "interview" -
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#32
Yeah I am because most laws and bills that are passed, it does affect me in a negative way, so I have no personal interest in fighting such decisions or policies.

So, it's not a question of ignorance, it's a question of choice. This isn't a democracy either, they decide the rules and if you don't like it; you can leave.

I hope you don't, but that's really the bottom-line in my opinion. That's an opinion of course.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11367 Posts
April 15 2012 00:59 GMT
#33
Generally people asking for money from outside the community is frowned upon. 1 post wonders for instance. But character matters and past actions matter. If Combat ex suddenly had charity event, would that be great? Yes. Would TL care? No.

Hell's Angels donates teddies to hospitals, but we also don't care because they're Hell's Angels. Athene is neither of those, but who/what Athene is, TL does not care for.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 15 2012 01:03 GMT
#34
So much more eloquently put than me QQ
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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
April 15 2012 01:05 GMT
#35
The policy is inconsistent, is that not enough for it to be changed?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
April 15 2012 01:08 GMT
#36
Eh, sorry. You approach this situation making demands because of what you think is right and fair.

You did not read nor care about any of the replies. Good luck, maybe you'll force a policy change!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 15 2012 01:08 GMT
#37
On April 15 2012 10:05 Josh_rakoons wrote:
The policy is inconsistent, is that not enough for it to be changed?


Given the age, the rise and fall of trends and what people seek out of the community, I say its only natural and expected that the rules are inconsistent, especially given that they are on a subjective base.
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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
April 15 2012 01:13 GMT
#38
I did listen to the points that were given, in my opinion, they were all incorrect, and were based on "its just TL policy".

If its never going to be changed, its never going to be changed, but i lose a ton of respect to the people that even legitimately believe that this is "fair".
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
April 15 2012 01:15 GMT
#39
On April 15 2012 10:13 Josh_rakoons wrote:
I did listen to the points that were given, in my opinion, they were all incorrect, and were based on "its just TL policy".

If its never going to be changed, its never going to be changed, but i lose a ton of respect to the people that even legitimately believe that this is "fair".

Not everything in life is fair and this is the internet. Athene seems to be doing just fine without TL's help. Until we get someone who can actually tell where the no Athene policy comes from it's pointless to argue about this imo.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
April 15 2012 01:16 GMT
#40
"None of this may work, but if so you cannot say you did not try" - straight from Jonnylaw's mouth.
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