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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
September 23 2010 21:58 GMT
#1
Do not want. I much prefer the resize->click for full size that it was before (yesterday?)
Any way to get that back? The Resize large images that distort the layout option is still checked for me :|
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 23 2010 22:26 GMT
#2
Yeah this doesn't feel smooth at all
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 22:31:49
September 23 2010 22:30 GMT
#3
[image loading]

Whoops, that looks terrible! But if I use the "upload image" option before I post...

[image loading]

Easy.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 23:07:05
September 23 2010 23:06 GMT
#4
Give it a few weeks, once people preview their posts and realize they are posting images that are way too big for the TL layout, they will stop doing so. As motbob said, the upload image feature will take care of all the resizing and hosting for you, so there's not really any reason why huge full sized images should be posted. The fact that "Resize large images" was a default option for so long was unfortunate, as posters have become reliant on it for doing what they should have done in the first place.

The resize code is an incredibly nasty hack and posting such big images is a waste of bandwidth and for posts with many images, the resize process is also very slow even on modern CPUs, delaying the page rendering.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 23:17:29
September 23 2010 23:16 GMT
#5
On September 24 2010 07:30 motbob wrote:
[image loading]

Whoops, that looks terrible! But if I use the "upload image" option before I post...

[image loading]

Easy.

But look at the quote lol
Imo quote images should be auto spoilered if you want to save cycles.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 23 2010 23:57 GMT
#6
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153665 imagine this image with text all over it, it would be such a bitch.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
September 24 2010 00:03 GMT
#7
On September 24 2010 08:57 CharlieMurphy wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=153665 imagine this image with text all over it, it would be such a bitch.

huh?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
September 24 2010 00:07 GMT
#8
I think what he means is.... trying to read the text would require scrolling left and right over and over again for each line as you progress downwards...
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
September 24 2010 01:45 GMT
#9
So I am having a problem using the "upload image" option. Everytime I upload an image it just generates an empty code... Am i doing something wrong??
Big T
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
September 24 2010 01:47 GMT
#10
I seem to be having the same problem BigT.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
September 24 2010 01:51 GMT
#11
Well hopefully it gets fixed soon :D
Big T
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
September 24 2010 01:51 GMT
#12
On September 24 2010 08:16 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 07:30 motbob wrote:
[image loading]

Whoops, that looks terrible! But if I use the "upload image" option before I post...

[image loading]

Easy.

But look at the quote lol
Imo quote images should be auto spoilered if you want to save cycles.

when i tried to drag the bar i kept dragging the pic instead

also old threads are going to look horrible D:
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BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
September 24 2010 01:54 GMT
#13
PS Wouldn't un-automatically resizing images make the lag problem worse? Because all the pics will be actual size? Or am i misunderstanding the concept? (Quite possible lol)
Big T
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
September 24 2010 01:56 GMT
#14
On September 24 2010 10:54 BigT wrote:
PS Wouldn't un-automatically resizing images make the lag problem worse? Because all the pics will be actual size? Or am i misunderstanding the concept? (Quite possible lol)

lag will not change in the least, since the stuff your computer's downloading is still the same, just the way it displays it is different.

it'll cut down lag because it'll force users to upload images in their proper size =\
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
September 24 2010 01:57 GMT
#15
It doesn't look great when images are quoted, and old threads are going to be awful. Can we implement an "image check" before posting that prevents the post from going through if the image is too big? That would force people to resize, keep quotes ok, and preserve the past threads.
ModeratorGodfather
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 02:04:18
September 24 2010 01:59 GMT
#16
On September 24 2010 10:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
It doesn't look great when images are quoted, and old threads are going to be awful. Can we implement an "image check" before posting that prevents the post from going through if the image is too big? That would force people to resize, keep quotes ok, and preserve the past threads.


Yeah agreed, it totally destroyed my thread haha.

PS If the system is going to be changed, can we atleast have the "upload image" function work properly beforehand. Or atleast list the size specifications that pictures need to be?

Thanks!
Big T
101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
September 24 2010 02:03 GMT
#17
On September 24 2010 08:06 R1CH wrote:
Give it a few weeks, once people preview their posts and realize they are posting images that are way too big for the TL layout, they will stop doing so. As motbob said, the upload image feature will take care of all the resizing and hosting for you, so there's not really any reason why huge full sized images should be posted. The fact that "Resize large images" was a default option for so long was unfortunate, as posters have become reliant on it for doing what they should have done in the first place.

The resize code is an incredibly nasty hack and posting such big images is a waste of bandwidth and for posts with many images, the resize process is also very slow even on modern CPUs, delaying the page rendering.


I really don't think that people will realize anything.

Anyone who cares enough about his posting already resizes his images. Everyone else will post a huge ass image, see the result and then don't give a damn about the way it looks, because they just want the others to be able to see the image and not the thread to look pretty.

As it is right now, it just looks unprofessional to be honest. (I know the reasoning behind it is reasonable, but I still think the old way was way better)

People get what they get, this has nothing to do with what they deserve.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
September 24 2010 02:11 GMT
#18
On September 24 2010 10:54 BigT wrote:
PS Wouldn't un-automatically resizing images make the lag problem worse? Because all the pics will be actual size? Or am i misunderstanding the concept? (Quite possible lol)

It would reduce the load, because before it would load the full size image in your browser and resize it after it loaded it meaning it's doing extra work to render it. Now it's just loading the full image. The TL resizing of images to my understanding didn't make a new image it just resized it in the browser if that made any sense. The Upload an image does resize it properly now.
BigT
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
September 24 2010 02:13 GMT
#19
On September 24 2010 11:11 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 10:54 BigT wrote:
PS Wouldn't un-automatically resizing images make the lag problem worse? Because all the pics will be actual size? Or am i misunderstanding the concept? (Quite possible lol)

It would reduce the load, because before it would load the full size image in your browser and resize it after it loaded it meaning it's doing extra work to render it. Now it's just loading the full image. The TL resizing of images to my understanding didn't make a new image it just resized it in the browser if that made any sense. The Upload an image does resize it properly now.


Dont exactly understand, but whatever, the end result is the same so im happy :D
Big T
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
September 24 2010 02:17 GMT
#20
On September 24 2010 10:59 BigT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 10:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
It doesn't look great when images are quoted, and old threads are going to be awful. Can we implement an "image check" before posting that prevents the post from going through if the image is too big? That would force people to resize, keep quotes ok, and preserve the past threads.


Yeah agreed, it totally destroyed my thread haha.


Just go resize your images.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
September 24 2010 03:39 GMT
#21
Reworked the resize large images option. It's slightly less ugly, but it applies only after the page has finished loading. Turn it on in your profile. I also removed scrollbars from oversized images since I guess that looks ugly?
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
September 24 2010 03:57 GMT
#22
It works well for me. And yes, the scroll bars were pretty ugly ><
ModeratorGodfather
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
September 24 2010 03:58 GMT
#23
Thanks, R1CH! Everyone appreciates the work you do for this site. =D
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
September 24 2010 04:19 GMT
#24
On September 24 2010 12:39 R1CH wrote:
Reworked the resize large images option. It's slightly less ugly, but it applies only after the page has finished loading. Turn it on in your profile. I also removed scrollbars from oversized images since I guess that looks ugly?


R1CH, you are so awesome, thank you!
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
September 24 2010 07:12 GMT
#25
On September 24 2010 08:06 R1CH wrote:
Give it a few weeks, once people preview their posts and realize they are posting images that are way too big for the TL layout, they will stop doing so.


You have alot of faith in people... I think it'll take a while longer before people actually change, especially newer posters... regardless its probably a necessary pain
EverDawn
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden91 Posts
September 24 2010 12:40 GMT
#26
Hi!

I came here looking for a explination or to be posting a question why all of a suden a lot of old threads had rader large imiges that where to big for the layout or was wither cutout or hade scrollbars to be able to view the whole ting.

Is the discussion in this thread about the new image process for the forum the explanation for all this? Beacuse i started to wonder if it was a browser misshap or something.

I noticed it first in the Wallpaper thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=149075&currentpage=12

Thanks!
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8836 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 16:16:20
September 24 2010 16:12 GMT
#27
Why not just rework your image tags to include a link so that any large image that gets cut off can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the image and viewing it in another window? Then you save your layout but also allow people to see the full image easily when people are (inevitably) too lazy to resize anything. As it stands right now, all large images I see in old threads are cut off and can't be viewed unless I get the direct link and view it in a new tab.

+ Show Spoiler [Example] +

I know you guys will have a better idea, but this is what I'm talking about:

http://www.smiteam.net/forum/topics/Um-ya-71.aspx#top

Here someone posted a large image and it got cut off but was also, obviously, a link that could be clicked
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 24 2010 16:34 GMT
#28
On September 24 2010 12:39 R1CH wrote:
Reworked the resize large images option. It's slightly less ugly, but it applies only after the page has finished loading. Turn it on in your profile. I also removed scrollbars from oversized images since I guess that looks ugly?


Thank you sir!
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101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 22:36:40
September 24 2010 22:29 GMT
#29
Clicking a resized image to see it in full size now opens it in a new window, instead of in a new tab (which it did before the change).

This is much less convenient, could you please change that back?
I don't think that this issue is related to my browser, since it worked fine before the changes.

Also, without the side scroll bars you can't see IF an image is actually bigger or just cut off. So you now always have to check for each image, which can get quite annoying.

Just sizing down every image before uploading is not the way to go either because you sometimes need to show images in full size. (so that small text on it is visible or whatever)
People get what they get, this has nothing to do with what they deserve.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
September 25 2010 02:36 GMT
#30
On September 25 2010 01:12 Flaccid wrote:
Why not just rework your image tags to include a link so that any large image that gets cut off can be viewed in its entirety by clicking the image and viewing it in another window? Then you save your layout but also allow people to see the full image easily when people are (inevitably) too lazy to resize anything. As it stands right now, all large images I see in old threads are cut off and can't be viewed unless I get the direct link and view it in a new tab.

Because the parser has no idea if an image will get cut off or not, since it has no idea how big the images are. It can't know if it should generate a link or not, and it still doesn't fix the root problem of people posting huge images in the first place.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-25 11:18:25
September 25 2010 04:27 GMT
#31
I just wanted to say, that before I clicked the little thing in my profile almost every other picture was cut off. Check the funny pics thread with it off to see what i mean.

Also, Images still don't resize when in spoiler.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
September 25 2010 15:30 GMT
#32
I agree that this will force people to resize their images if they're way too huge
but... images that happen to be 20% too big are just cut off in a dumb way, its so damn annoying :\

Graphics
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-25 18:51:50
September 25 2010 18:48 GMT
#33
On September 26 2010 00:30 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I agree that this will force people to resize their images if they're way too huge
but... images that happen to be 20% too big are just cut off in a dumb way, its so damn annoying :\


With "Resize large images that distort the layout:" checked in it happens only when they are in spoilers, for example:

On September 26 2010 03:37 Leath wrote:
I think because he is always #2

[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Uploaded (and automaticly resized):
[image loading]

So people don't even have to resize, they just need to use Upload Image feature
wwww
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
September 27 2010 05:39 GMT
#34
I think I've reached a good compromise. The server will now examine images to get their width and height and sets image dimensions before loading. This fixes images not being resized before they finish loading and fixes images resizing in spoilers. For images that the server can't access (slow download, shitty image host, etc) the current post-load javascript resizing will apply.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 01 2010 22:44 GMT
#35
oh my god i never noticed the 'upload image' feature until now. so amazing. thanks
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
October 02 2010 00:05 GMT
#36
Awesome changes.
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