On January 16 2011 14:22 Exchange wrote:
WoW. Don't saw games. Frozean so good or Stars players so bad?
WoW. Don't saw games. Frozean so good or Stars players so bad?
A bit of both.
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Ryo
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On January 16 2011 14:22 Exchange wrote: WoW. Don't saw games. Frozean so good or Stars players so bad? A bit of both. | ||
hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:20 Lucumo wrote: Crazy-Hydra. While I love seeing Crazy-Hydra use hydras I think the stars coach is not going to send CH after Neo.G Bonjwa and ZerO got destroyed by Frozean. Make it a TvT so he can get an AK vs all TvX matchups. | ||
hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:22 Exchange wrote: WoW. Don't saw games. Frozean so good or Stars players so bad? stars have been playing below there ability, but far more frozean playing amazing imo | ||
xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
edit: oh he's retired -.- | ||
O-ops
United States4235 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:22 Exchange wrote: WoW. Don't saw games. Frozean so good or Stars players so bad? Frozean was really good. | ||
swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
I don't know what's up with Stars. They have such good players but they always perform poorly at the same time. | ||
mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Neither me nor Ryo wanted to predict the outcome of the match, so I'm trying out something instead of a Q&A, just for fun. But it has a different purpose as well than just lulz. For those of you expecting some sort of Light vs. Kal fanboy rage battle, you'll be disappointed. It's even worse if you expect some form of Flash/Jaedong/Bisu praise in the wierdest thread possible for it. No, this time, we're cutting the little guys some slack, and try to understand part of the beauty of Team League Starcraft. Players can be awesome without several OSL and MSL titles, and some put the team first. In this section, join me and Ryo as we try to give some less outstanding players some of the respect they deserve. Maybe you'll find out something new yourself? The two players we're looking at are Jaehoon and FrOzen. + Show Spoiler [Jaehoon] + The Elusive Kim Jaehoon by Ryo Jaehoon’s role in the team Together with Sea, Light and HyuN, Jaehoon forms the backbone of the current MBCGame HERO team. While Sea/Light are the team’s Ace players and stars, and Hyun serves the role of the “mother” in the team house, it can be said that the emotional health of the HERO team is closely tied to that of Jaehoon. If rumors from both Dailyesports and Korean internet forums are to be believed, Coach Ha’s departure from MBC in September was closely tied to player dissatisfaction over Jaehoon’s numerous breakdowns last season under an “overly strict” training supervision. Did the players push Coach Ha out or was his resignation due to another reason? Till this day, there has been no confirmation. But what is clear is that the players rallied closely behind Jaehoon during the dark days of his career and even good friend and teammate Tyson has stated that the revival of the HERO protoss line is tied to the performance of Jaehoon. Jaehoon's current Form When tracking his form, you can more or less disregard any statistics prior to this season. Before this season, Jaehoon’s longest winning streak was 2 games. This entire season, he has not loss more than 2 games in a row while just last month, he was on a 5 game winning streak before finally taken down by Stork himself. His remarkable rise in form has prompted DES to call him the reincarnation of the Spirit Toss (Pusan). Jaehoon’s current winrate this season is 59%. Highlights His win against Really showing both good micro and the strong macro style that has been a hallmark of his games this season. Of course, the most memorable, jubilant moment of Jaehoon’s career thus far… the win against Ych which earned him a place in the MSL Ro32 for the first time in his career. I nearly shed a tear myself. Did you know… ? "My closest friend is Jaehoon from MBCgame. He’s a friend to whom I reveal my deepest thoughts and feelings." – Lee Jaedong , Nate interview March 8th 2010 We’ve all heard about Jaehoon’s (and indeed the MBC team’s) friendship with Khan protosses Stork and Jangbi. But by far his closest friend in gaming is Jaedong. They have been buddies since their amateur days, as n.Die clanmates both from Ulsan. Like Jaedong, Jaehoon enjoys hiking in his spare time. Jaehoon’s best friend in MBC is his teammate and roommate, Light. Jaehoon was once called “naemsaekko” (Korean term for the Pokemon Gloom) by Hyun because of his purple hair and slightly sad demeanor. Jaehoon has many noona (“older sister”) fans. For example MBC’s Special Forces team coach, Lim Sura, has often encouraged Jaehoon. His final win against yCh in the MST, earning him a place in the MSL for the first time ever, brought tears to the eyes of many fans, according to accounts from the HERO gallery on Dcinside. Jaehoon’s biggest wish this season is for fans to give him a cool and awesome nickname like his Khan protoss friends have. + Show Spoiler [Frozen] + Frozen, the basket ball player Terran by mustaju Frozen’s role in the team STX is a team of many talents, but few very exceptional players, and a lot of streaks, both good and bad. Superficially, Frozen fits the description of the average STX player perfectly, as he has both periods of winning a lot and then failing spectacularly many times after. But why do I consider him different? Because I became a STX fan right after reading a letter written by noone other than his mother. This particular letter of advice was heart warming and I’d like to believe it exemplifies the heart of the team better than anything the players could have said themselves.I think Frozen is a huge moral support to his team, as he keeps training and practicing hard while the rest of the team might be devastated of long loss streaks. These qualities make Frozen the heart of STX SouL. And believe me, I love that team. Frozen’s current form Frozen is currently probably the third best Terran on STX, and this in itself should mean that he’s pretty bad, since Bogus and Classic are mediocre, and Frozen’s official win record is nothing to be proud of. But first looks can be deceptive. Did you know that in the 2010 Winter OSL Wildcard Tournament, he made it all the way to the finals, where he lost to his teammate Calm? Pfff, you might say. Those are not even official matches! But let’s look at the players he beat to get to that position. Saint, RuBy, Stats, Modesty, Baby, Neo.G_Soulkey. 4 of these players are aces on their team. Not bad, eh? Too bad that he went on a loss streak in PL shortly after, but at least he lost to really good players. Like Fantasy, Snow, and free, while taking a really good TvT game on Fortress from forGG. Although there’s much to be desired, Frozen is certainly not the autoloss many people think him to be. Frozen’s highlights: Frozen has few real highlights, but he has defeated strong opponents in the past. And sometimes just defeating is not enough. Here is an offensive Command Center against Bisu. And not even Jaedong is safe from FrOzen. Did you know...? ...Frozen is 2-1 against Jaedong and 1-0 against Upmagic, defeating them both in a single MSL group and winning it? ...Frozen wanted to be a basketball player before becoming a StarCraft progamer? ...Frozen was 0-12 for KHAN in PL the season before he joined STX? ....Frozen carried the team through much of the Ro5 SPL 2009-2010 after the match fixing scandal ? ...that if given the chance, Frozen wants to play Neo.G_Soulkey and Bisu the most? (if you count OSL prelims and STX masters, he is 4-2!! vs. Bisu and 2-2 against Soulkey. If not, he’s 1-1 against Bisu and 0-0 against Soulkey.) ... his Korean nicknames include "Human Bonjwa", "Loss-King", "Black magic Terran" and "Roller-coaster Terran"? | ||
structuralinertia
Australia1425 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:19 hacklebeast wrote: speedy corection aww, though no one would notice | ||
Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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endy
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e_i_pi_1_0
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Ideas
United States7964 Posts
On January 16 2011 14:26 Musoeun wrote: Stars have Really and Crazy-Hydra left in the category of "pretty good players". Fanboyism says to send Really, + he's got experience, but he dies so easy to Protoss STX just throws Kal-Shuttle-Trap at him and he'll lose one of those games. Crazy-Hydra's sort of a safer bet, especially since STX has no fantastic vs Zerg players. On the other hand, he's kind of new and not the best ZvTer ever - the way Frozen's playing that could end badly. honestly I think really has pretty good PvT. not good enough to beat kal, but he can definitely stand a good chance vs shuttle/trap. his ZvT has always been his weakest MU... | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
pros: he's on my fantasy team, he was their #1 overall draft pick once i think, he cross-dressed before leta cons: would have to zvz vs calm, pretty much no experience Really: pros: artosis said he was good once, he won a few games this fall, could probably beat kal cons: would have to tvz | ||
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Lucumo
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On January 16 2011 14:28 jalstar wrote: Crazy-Hydra: pros: he's on my fantasy team, he was their #1 overall draft pick once i think, he cross-dressed before leta cons: would have to zvz vs calm, pretty much no experience Really: pros: artosis said he was good once, he won a few games this fall, could probably beat kal cons: would have to tvz Crazy-Hydra is 7-3 in his last 10 ZvZs with losses to Hydra, Princess and Jaedong. I think that's acceptable. Another con for Really is that he is on my anti-team | ||
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