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On March 05 2010 10:39 GrayArea wrote: Update: It's 5:37pm on Day 5 and I failed. I smoked. I'm not going to give up though. I'm going to give myself 3 strikes before I give up on giving up this time. So this was strike one. I still have two more chances, and I can't succumb again. So here goes to staying strong....I can do it. Fuck the 3 strikes and I give up shit. You fucking dumbass, I don't even understand why you put this "3 strike" crap in the first place. You should never give up smoking. You got to day 5, YAY!!! Now lets go twice that, go without smoking for 10 days.
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On March 15 2010 03:16 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2010 10:39 GrayArea wrote: Update: It's 5:37pm on Day 5 and I failed. I smoked. I'm not going to give up though. I'm going to give myself 3 strikes before I give up on giving up this time. So this was strike one. I still have two more chances, and I can't succumb again. So here goes to staying strong....I can do it. Fuck the 3 strikes and I give up shit. You fucking dumbass, I don't even understand why you put this "3 strike" crap in the first place. You should never give up smoking. You got to day 5, YAY!!! Now lets go twice that, go without smoking for 10 days.
temp ? its true if you get to day 5, you forget about how you're not just trying to make it to that day BUT to quit forever.. but why so hostile? don't wanna call the amber lamps lol
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On March 15 2010 03:20 QuoC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2010 03:16 MuffinDude wrote:On March 05 2010 10:39 GrayArea wrote: Update: It's 5:37pm on Day 5 and I failed. I smoked. I'm not going to give up though. I'm going to give myself 3 strikes before I give up on giving up this time. So this was strike one. I still have two more chances, and I can't succumb again. So here goes to staying strong....I can do it. Fuck the 3 strikes and I give up shit. You fucking dumbass, I don't even understand why you put this "3 strike" crap in the first place. You should never give up smoking. You got to day 5, YAY!!! Now lets go twice that, go without smoking for 10 days. temp ? its true if you get to day 5, you forget about how you're not just trying to make it to that day BUT to quit forever.. but why so hostile? don't wanna call the amber lamps lol I was only hostile to the idiotic idea of putting three strikes and you're out crap. Why would you think about stopping trying to quit smoking. I know its tough, but seriously, cut with this "I quit quitting smoking" crap. If you're going to set a goal for yourself, set it in a way that won't result in you quitting after a few failures. Did Thomas Edison quit after failing 3 times in making the first practical light bulb? NO! He tried thousands of times before he finally got it. I'm really glad that he managed to do it for 5 days, but hearing this 3 strikes and I'm out crap just pisses me off.
It should be more like 3 strikes and I go a day without food is much better.
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Dude I highly doubt there were addictive fumes emitting from his light bulb experiments...it's not like he was making a light bulb out of crack...and don't say I'm being dramatic, the stuff in ciggies are not just addictive, it's pretty much top ranked in terms of addictive substances...
I agree with your idea on seeing it through and not giving up and compromising with yourself, just not that example.
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Oh, shut up. If you think cigarettes are addictive you've never done real addictive drugs. Cigarettes are hard to quit because they're so easy to use and legal. If you think they're hard to quit you should definitely never do real drugs.
If you can't quit smoking cigarettes it's just a willpower thing. Anyone here should be able to go at least 3 weeks on straight willpower. If you think otherwise you're just giving yourself an excuse.
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On March 15 2010 06:33 sMi.MeOw wrote: .........
Dude I highly doubt there were addictive fumes emitting from his light bulb experiments...it's not like he was making a light bulb out of crack...and don't say I'm being dramatic, the stuff in ciggies are not just addictive, it's pretty much top ranked in terms of addictive substances...
I agree with your idea on seeing it through and not giving up and compromising with yourself, just not that example. Its more like an even if you fail, don't give up sort of example. -_- I'm just saying how someone failed thousands of times yet he still manages to accomplish his goal, all smokers who are quitting should have that attitude. Don't be afraid of the failures, just keep working to success.
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Imma stop smoking right now, or help me God I will remove my "obelisk" if I smoke one cig ever!
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Like I was saying, the consequences for continuing smoking are so low in comparison to real drugs, and the withdrawal so minor in comparison to real drugs, that most people continue smoking not because they "can't" quit but because they "can't find the willpower" to quit.
It's not hard to quit smoking, it's hard to not make excuses to keep smoking.
Also do you just trust every chart that someone puts up on the web? Jesus Christ talk with some people who have used drugs, for crying out loud. Seriously, go ask a heroin addict how hard it is to quit smoking cigarettes.
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On March 15 2010 09:44 Licmyobelisk wrote: Imma stop smoking right now, or help me God I will remove my "obelisk" if I smoke one cig ever! Post pics if you fail. :-p
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... Did that really say that alcolhal has worse withdrawls than heroin or am i misreading it? And if it did Heroin withdrawls are so deadly you can die, alcohal is not. So unless im misreading it those polls are full of shit
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I doubt the guy got his PhD on researching full of shit...
Source: Jack E. Henningfield, PhD for NIDA, Reported by Philip J. Hilts, New York Times, Aug. 2, 1994 "Is Nicotine Addictive? It Depends on Whose Criteria You Use."
if you read underneath that chart...
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1) A Ph.D. for NIDA isn't exactly the most reliable source in the world on drugs 2) It was a New York Times article, not a medical journal 3) If you honestly believe cigarettes are more addictive than heroin you have no idea what you're talking about
The title of the article says "It depends on whose criteria you use." And seriously, what does "6" mean? How did he quantify that? Was it empirically or was it subject-reported? Either way there's no way that he's being objective here if he's listing nicotine as more addictive than heroin.
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Back on topic: Don't use bullshit excuses to keep smoking. Smoke if you're going to smoke. Don't smoke if you're not going to smoke. Man up and make a decision.
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On March 15 2010 14:39 JustSoPro wrote:... Did that really say that alcolhal has worse withdrawls than heroin or am i misreading it? And if it did Heroin withdrawls are so deadly you can die, alcohal is not. So unless im misreading it those polls are full of shit
You can certainly die from alcohol withdrawal, provided you were actually dependent. And yes, it is more severe than heroin withdrawal (which is actually generally considered to be non-lethal).
Here: DrugAbuse.gov
Although heroin withdrawal is considered less dangerous than alcohol or barbiturate withdrawal, sudden withdrawal by heavily dependent users who are in poor health is occasionally fatal.
And you can compare the symptoms yourself:
Alcohol vs Heroin
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Bumpity bump.
Warning: The last post in this thread is over two months old. If you bump this, you better have a good reason. The reason im bumping this is because i am fucking struggling at quitting. I've been smoking for 3,5 years, one pack per 3 days on average. There has been times where i went without smokes for 1 or 2 days and i didn't really felt the addiction.
But 5 days ago i decided to quit, and fuck am i suffering from withdrawal. Urges for nicotine aren't constand but they are there, tension in my arms, the need to fiddle around with something to keep my hands busy, i've been moderately pissed this whole time and yesterday right before i went to bed my gums started to hurt badly, so badly i couldn't get any sleep until i drank some ibuprofen... This whole ordeal made me realize how miserable this addiction is when you cut he supply of nicotine, which even further motivated me to fully quit. So yea... i better start looking for other ways to relax myself... and i really hope i wont run into any stressful situations in near future >_>
That is all.
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Completely understandable bump, don't sweat it. Good luck with quitting!
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Hi I quit smoking and my advice to you is the same as for people who are sea sick. You can't fight it you must accept it as not a big deal. When a wave/urge comes let it have it's business and think to yourself that it's really no big deal and just let it flow through you.
The urge to smoke passes soon enough. When you think about smoking try to think cancer and how it would be like to have cancer.
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Quitting smoking is one of the best things you could do for yourself. GL GL!
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I quit but I let myself indulge once in awhile. (by that I mean MAYBE once a year). i figure if I cant have it forever I'll just want it more.
For some people I wouldn't recommend this for obvious reasons. i thought it wouldn't work for me too, but as long as I throw away the entire pack after I smoked one, i'm fine.
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