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Endgame:
Vivax (3): TicTock, Raynpelikoneet, Zey Zey (1): Shockeyy TicTock (1): Vivax
Vivax (VT) was lynched. Zey (VT) was endgamed. Shockeyy(VT) was endgamed. Raynpelikoneet (Mafia Goon) wins! TicTock (Mafia Roleblocker) wins!
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"Rayn is mafia / Tictock is mafia
There, game solved."
MAD PROPS
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I fucking knew it. Such bullshit.
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wtf???
Can hapahauli be wrong? x)
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Cheater game.
I have never seen or called out cheating in TL history but it's clear that this game rayn had 'outside help'.
Really disappointed.
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Huh GB could even tell how the game will go on every day. :O
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GG all.
Had fun playing with the knowledge that mafia was on my team from the get go for once.
Also shoutouts to the new players, they got pocketed hard by mafia but I think both are potentially great players. Really nobody played badly this game imo, just town never coalesced. Ya'll were close around the start of D3 with pushing me though.
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Oh good on you for putting your vote back on me Vivax. I get why the end of the game was frustrating especially when you see the answer but town wont listen, but marytering in lylo is pretty meh.
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And GB threw it in the end...
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GB:
"Last point: Shockey is listening to him. Why don't they just focus on voting rayn/TT instead of being upset all the time?"
Because we literally had some one who only played with Rayn... Like Zey didn't even try. She just stuck her fingers in her ear and was "LALALALA" There's no reason to keep trying after that. This game is very upsetting because Rayn abused it, and knew Zey wasn't going to go against him...
I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again.
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Thoughts:
Pretty simple narrative on this game. Town wasn't too active and ate itself alive while mafia watched. I don't think mafia had to push any objectives this game (except for mayyyybe LYLO).
I noticed that throughout the early stages of this game (early D1 and early D2), town seemed very reluctant to vote and push suspicions. This inevitably led to a scramble to vote in the last hours of the day. While active towns can get away with these scrambles, the inactivity of the town made these lynches very easy to manipulate. Mafia could simply divert suspicion off of a mafia lynch, and ignore the town while townies lynched themselves.
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On June 10 2020 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:And GB threw it in the end...
"... IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER"
I didn't understand when Vivax started playing against his wincon. It felt scummy. If he kept going against you or TT I wouldn't change that :/
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On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB:
"Last point: Shockey is listening to him. Why don't they just focus on voting rayn/TT instead of being upset all the time?"
Because we literally had some one who only played with Rayn... Like Zey didn't even try. She just stuck her fingers in her ear and was "LALALALA" There's no reason to keep trying after that. This game is very upsetting because Rayn abused it, and knew Zey wasn't going to go against him...
I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again.
I understand you both being upset, but from someone who doesn't know your alignment, it felt suspicious to me.
Edit: I mean, you could've just piled on TT and let Zey decide and come back near deadline. Throwing the game made you look more suspicious
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On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again. Well she was the most factually correct poster in the game D3. You and Vivax just created bullshit on the fly (as town lol) and tried to shove it down people's throats. Regardless of if you were right or wrong doesn't matter, i think i would have voted either of you in the end 100 times out of 100 if i was in her position.
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On June 10 2020 06:12 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2020 06:10 ShoCkeyy wrote: GB:
"Last point: Shockey is listening to him. Why don't they just focus on voting rayn/TT instead of being upset all the time?"
Because we literally had some one who only played with Rayn... Like Zey didn't even try. She just stuck her fingers in her ear and was "LALALALA" There's no reason to keep trying after that. This game is very upsetting because Rayn abused it, and knew Zey wasn't going to go against him...
I seriously doubt I'll play a game with Zey again. I understand you both being upset, but from someone who doesn't know your alignment, it felt suspicious to me. Edit: I mean, you could've just piled on TT and let Zey decide and come back near deadline. Throwing the game made you look more suspicious
Bro, its not even about being suspicious, she barely played and as soon as Jee died, she immediately backed rayn for no reason. It's ridiculous. She didn't try to read anything that Rayn or Tictock posted, only Vivax and I. She literally only defended Rayn after Jee's death.
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GB you were observer but if like me and Shockeyy you put effort expecting a fair game and instead get to face mafias personal army that happen to be newcomers you would be upset too. The jeekaka kill was also a joke.
I'd also rather have obsed this game than being trolled by rayn bringing his yes-men to a game.
Not just that, he thinks he won fairly LOL
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Regarding the Drama...
As someone who's been in a "helpless" LYLO situation as town, I do sympathize with the raw frustration of watching a game slowly end over 48 hours.
That being said, I didn't get any sense that this game was marred by "cheating" or anything of the sort. It is natural for players to gravitate to what they are familiar with.
A clowny game or two is the price to pay for some new blood on the site. I would caution anyone from driving players away based on a "bad performance" in their first game on TL. I think it is easier for people to shift the blame on one person rather than blaming the town collectively for their mistakes... one person didn't mislynch 3 people single-handedly after all.
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