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On October 27 2019 18:46 parksonsc wrote: Trap played very well, but the real question is: If it takes such effort just to beat Elazer, how on earth can any Protoss beat the likes of Serral, Rogue or Dark when they get to that stage of the game?
Honest answer: in this patch, they don't. At least for what we understand now! Protoss should probably aim to end the game with a midgame push.
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On October 27 2019 18:46 LoneYoShi wrote: Incredibly poor map control/awareness from Elazer. No creep, no spotter zerglings, nothing. Kept getting caught out of position because of that... Really disappointing from a Blizzcon-caliber player imho.
He doesnt usually need it. Trap -level is like , not attained by many.
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On October 27 2019 18:46 LoneYoShi wrote: Incredibly poor map control/awareness from Elazer. No creep, no spotter zerglings, nothing. Kept getting caught out of position because of that... Really disappointing from a Blizzcon-caliber player imho. tbf BL/Infestor is incredibly hard to control because of how slow it it. That's why I was so impressed with Elazer's play in game 2.
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On October 27 2019 18:48 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2019 18:46 parksonsc wrote: Trap played very well, but the real question is: If it takes such effort just to beat Elazer, how on earth can any Protoss beat the likes of Serral, Rogue or Dark when they get to that stage of the game? Honest answer: in this patch, they don't. At least for what we understand now! Protoss should probably aim to end the game with a midgame push.
Any top Protoss should be able to beat any top Zerg in late game. We just saw Trap beat Elazer. Elazer threw that game, probably from jetlag or something
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On October 27 2019 18:48 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2019 18:46 parksonsc wrote: Trap played very well, but the real question is: If it takes such effort just to beat Elazer, how on earth can any Protoss beat the likes of Serral, Rogue or Dark when they get to that stage of the game? Honest answer: in this patch, they don't. At least for what we understand now! Protoss should probably aim to end the game with a midgame push. Wth a photon cannon push, according to Dark.
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On October 27 2019 18:49 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2019 18:46 LoneYoShi wrote: Incredibly poor map control/awareness from Elazer. No creep, no spotter zerglings, nothing. Kept getting caught out of position because of that... Really disappointing from a Blizzcon-caliber player imho. tbf BL/Infestor is incredibly hard to control because of how slow it it. That's why I was so impressed with Elazer's play in game 2. Not sure if you are joking, but it's actually true for low economy games. In G3 Trap did manage to keep Elazers army pretty small and as such was able to abuse the lack of mobility of Elazers army.
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On October 27 2019 18:53 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2019 18:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2019 18:46 LoneYoShi wrote: Incredibly poor map control/awareness from Elazer. No creep, no spotter zerglings, nothing. Kept getting caught out of position because of that... Really disappointing from a Blizzcon-caliber player imho. tbf BL/Infestor is incredibly hard to control because of how slow it it. That's why I was so impressed with Elazer's play in game 2. Not sure if you are joking, but it's actually true for low economy games. In G3 Trap did manage to keep Elazers army pretty small and as such was able to abuse the lack of mobility of Elazers army. he is "joking"
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On October 27 2019 18:59 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2019 18:53 HolydaKing wrote:On October 27 2019 18:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2019 18:46 LoneYoShi wrote: Incredibly poor map control/awareness from Elazer. No creep, no spotter zerglings, nothing. Kept getting caught out of position because of that... Really disappointing from a Blizzcon-caliber player imho. tbf BL/Infestor is incredibly hard to control because of how slow it it. That's why I was so impressed with Elazer's play in game 2. Not sure if you are joking, but it's actually true for low economy games. In G3 Trap did manage to keep Elazers army pretty small and as such was able to abuse the lack of mobility of Elazers army. he is "joking" ? Broodlord Infestor is slow and you need at least 3 control groups sometimes 4 (Broodlords, Infestors, Corruptors, ground army) It's strong but definitely not easy to control.
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Elazer is playing different every game tbh.
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Trap made so many good moves in that game. Just feels like he overextended on both attacks, if he had pull back a bit earlier I don't see how Elazer could have held on.
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Kudos to Elazer that game - he played that wonderfully.
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1 more win and we get 6 zergs in Blizzcon....YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
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On October 27 2019 19:00 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2019 18:59 Geo.Rion wrote:On October 27 2019 18:53 HolydaKing wrote:On October 27 2019 18:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 27 2019 18:46 LoneYoShi wrote: Incredibly poor map control/awareness from Elazer. No creep, no spotter zerglings, nothing. Kept getting caught out of position because of that... Really disappointing from a Blizzcon-caliber player imho. tbf BL/Infestor is incredibly hard to control because of how slow it it. That's why I was so impressed with Elazer's play in game 2. Not sure if you are joking, but it's actually true for low economy games. In G3 Trap did manage to keep Elazers army pretty small and as such was able to abuse the lack of mobility of Elazers army. he is "joking" ? Broodlord Infestor is slow and you need at least 3 control groups sometimes 4 (Broodlords, Infestors, Corruptors, ground army) It's strong but definitely not easy to control. yes, and if it wasnt for you previous 1000 trolling comments, fake-complimenting foreign zergs, I would believe you mean it
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On October 27 2019 19:01 HolydaKing wrote: Elazer is playing different every game tbh. Meanwhile the dumb Protoss keeps making immortals and archons, show some innovation!
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didn't someone say Elazer was a one-trick pony? i feel like we've been watching him doing a bunch of different shit in these games. tbh i think there's something to the "rematch curse" in the sense that if you've won the initial match, you are now coming off a loss in the winners match, whereas if you lost the initial match, you're coming off a win in the losers match. so momentum is kind of on the side of the loser of the initial match, ironically.
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France12482 Posts
Please Trap win it’s only Elazer you can do it!
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At this point I'm cheering for Elazer for the 6/8 dream!
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Ro8:ZvZ, ZvZ, ZvP, ZvT Semi:ZvZ, ZvZ Final:ZvZ
That's the plan
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On October 27 2019 19:03 F1rstAssau1t wrote: 1 more win and we get 6 zergs in Blizzcon....YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell yeah!! I'm looking forward to an all-zerg semifinals experience
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