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I mean really at this point it should be obvious I'm town.
1. Day vig- usually town, I shot (at the very least) an anti town player. 2. Led the lynch away from town ace 3. Led the lynch towards sentinel.
If I keep hearing people fos me it's hard to take seriously anymore if you're actually town. And starting to get scummy.
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[QUOTE]On March 14 2019 04:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [QUOTE]On March 14 2019 04:37 LightningStrike wrote: Example Case 1 s I spoiler each list post: + Show Spoiler +On June 06 2017 07:53 Tubesock wrote:Just in case: PB - too sloppy from his last mafia game. Conversion - he's trying for help and actually giving his thoughts. Too transparent for mafia. HF* He's just too dangerous as mafia to not distrust at least a little bit. In any case I'm not going to lynch him till like D4/5. Ritoky- I felt mindmelded + Show Spoiler +On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote: i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb
fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.
reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.
btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.
tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.
grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.
BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.
onegu...flip a coin. Tumblewood - Uncc'd Doc but I don't think I'd out myself if I were the real doc just yet. Onegu - started the successful shenany. It's certainly possible that he bussed for zero reason, but if he actually performs in the future, he's town. LS- I used to think I could read LS. While his reasoning is "weird" his reads are / used to be actually good if you disregarded what he said and zero'd on just the names. Mafias Most likely further down. Grackaroni - mostly ignored because I still think BH is mafia. Take away BH though, and I don't see anything towny. I think his fight with Ritoky is pure OMGUS. Blazinghand - at first I thought his jokes after the lynch made him town. His hyperawareness on how vote switching works (him telling Ritoky that if Ritoky jumped on the wagon after it was secured, it would have looked suspicious) tells me he is quite aware of his image. So, he's making sure everyone knows he's joking and trying to get us to like him. If he doesn't do anything next days we should kill him. beentheredonethat- I think "emotional" outbursts is a terrible reason to town someone. Vivax - I liked him until his weird shifts prior to the end of the day. His interaction with HF looked terrible. Example Case 2: + Show Spoiler +On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Towny Order Tubesock GlowingBear Koshi - had an entire post in CAPS LOCK. Ritoky Sukrit TicTock LightningStrike - 1/2 Koshitownness since his post was only 1/2 CAPS lock.
Null/mafia not necessarily in order but kinda Shapelog Damdred Rels GiygaS Kushm4sta Vivax
Shapelog I have the same suspicions everyone else does/did. I haven't really studied his filter to see what he's done after the heat was off him. Or what he did eod other than vote Kush.
Damdred I read Damdred's filter solely because of the GB hammer. I didn't like the shenanies but I have seen Damdred do that multiple times as town. Damdred doesn't address GB or Kush at all in his filter and only mentions Vivax with T-4 minutes to EOD. I think he had about 2 reads. I think Rels is right taht he is disinterested in the game. I disagree that it is mafia motivated though. Damdred in my eyes is like Marv/Palmar/Holyflare/BH, if they are alive d4 it's because they are mafia.
Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does. The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games. Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one). After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.
I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately. I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read.
The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.
GiygaS I liked his Rels points. That's pretty much all he's done. Even rereading his filter I didn't see anything that jumps out in either direction. I liked that he didn't seem too phased during kusgate 2015. For the record I don't think anyone who read my filter would think I sheeped GiygaS on Rels. Did G reaffirm and add to things? Yes. Another Rels exaggeration.
Kushm4sta knowing his alignment helps me think more about Rels. Associative reads BAD mmmkay. But he's done jackshit. I think I've read or played with him in 3 games. He was anti-town in all of them. I think copcheck/poe him later.
Vivax has like 4 posts all "I'm sheeping Koshi". Example Case 3: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2015 05:04 Tubesock wrote: In case I die.
Town Soren / Holyflare Breshke Prplhz Rsoultin Half the Sky Jarjarbinks The Shining - I was thinking of having him in the nulls but it would essentially be a policy null. Ace was useless. I like Shining. Plus he likes my thoughts on Dwarf so there's that.
Nulls Onegu - hasn't done a lot. Waiting on his Rsoultin case Stutters695 - I see posts in his filter I like. Some I'm eh ok. I have a hard time towning him when he scums Breshke and Prplhz. I plan on rereading Breshke and Prplhz more to see if I think Stutters points are reasonable. Anyway, focusing on him Day 2. Also thinking about Prplhz's assessment of him. Bourneq - Got a lot of flack from Prplhz at the very beginning. I gave him a couple slight townpoints for something but that was basically it. Don't remember anything else about him.
Mafia TheBloodyDwarf - duh! Example Case 4: + Show Spoiler +On May 04 2016 15:16 Tubesock wrote: headed out for drinks and dinner. Will be back in a few hours. In the mean time:
Towns:
Kush Shape Slam Marvish Ricey jat
If I were to pick who to lynch of the "actives" as it were I'd take time deciding between killing and Fazer. I didnt' really like their answers but they are actually closer to null than anything. You can probably infer what I didn't like about them by some of the questions I directed at them.
for the inactives I'd lynch in this orderish
Dr Thrawn Etellex Mig (modkill though?) Palmar
Example Case 5: + Show Spoiler +On October 24 2016 06:37 Tubesock wrote: My scum list is scummiest to least:
Vivax, Skynx, Koshi Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien Ritoky, GlowingBear Sicklucker
My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers.
I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him.
NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo.
The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB.
So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time)
Example Case 6: + Show Spoiler +On March 10 2015 08:36 Tubesock wrote: So,
Bats and Fecal mafia.
then 2 in
Lightningstrike Alakaslam Sepulchre Keirathi
I think Keirathi is most likely town of the 4. I'd like to hear what Kurumi thinks about Kei. Along with the other confirmed towns, Breshke and Slam.
Sep. I felt like he's "off". But then I think about the Geript "ninja" set up and wifom myself into black holes.
I really don't know about Slam. He does have 3 days to prove useful though. I think he's 65% town.
I've been thinking a lot about Lightningstrike lately. I don't know.
Unless people think Bats is possibly town, he's my next pick. Even Fecal who I was pretty sold was the ninja is more useful. Tell me which ones are from scum TS and which ones came from Town TS. I know the answer. Lmao these all look very similar to me. Gonna have to find a better meta read fam.[/QUOTE]
Haha looks like I say “just in case” more often when I’m Mafia to leave a last will.
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On March 14 2019 04:43 LightningStrike wrote:+ Show Spoiler +1,2,3 was Mafia Tubesock the others were Town Tubesock he does actually put more words on his list posts as scum This is really not helping your case dude. They look very similar in both tone and formatting.
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I was being lenient because we aren't sure if mafia knows the traitor but come on all those together should seal it. Honestly I expected to be shot tonight but I guess mafia knew there was doubt.
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On March 14 2019 04:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2019 04:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 14 2019 04:27 Vivax wrote: Either way MZ. I don't care if you agree with his reads, but saying that you aren't convinced because no one but LS is pushing for his lynch brought me out to post here.
So don't deflect to your own opinion of his reads. Well so glad you decide to participate instead of observe. I was not deflecting, I was straight up commenting on the merits of his lynch. You're trying to kill him for his reads post and I think its a bad case because I agree with a lot of his reads. And you ruled out he started bussing upon having a majority wagon on him because? You call what he's doing right now bussing? And let me get this straight, because he's about to die he's just gonna hard bus his entire team? I don't buy that for a second. Besides for you to believe he's bussing you'd have to agree with his reads which I don't think you do. Actually the more I think about your line of logic there the worse it gets.
Why are you talking about logic here when the entire reason you're townreading him is cause he has similar reads to yours.
It doesn't matter whether I believe he's bussing, this is about you discarding the possibility while making the decision that he's town.
You are also dodging the question by claiming I agree with his reads, which I don't. Why, if you agree with his reads, can that not make him scum regardless?
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[QUOTE]On March 14 2019 04:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [QUOTE]On March 14 2019 04:37 LightningStrike wrote: Example Case 1 s I spoiler each list post: + Show Spoiler +On June 06 2017 07:53 Tubesock wrote:Just in case: PB - too sloppy from his last mafia game. Conversion - he's trying for help and actually giving his thoughts. Too transparent for mafia. HF* He's just too dangerous as mafia to not distrust at least a little bit. In any case I'm not going to lynch him till like D4/5. Ritoky- I felt mindmelded + Show Spoiler +On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote: i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb
fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.
reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.
btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.
tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.
grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.
BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.
onegu...flip a coin. Tumblewood - Uncc'd Doc but I don't think I'd out myself if I were the real doc just yet. Onegu - started the successful shenany. It's certainly possible that he bussed for zero reason, but if he actually performs in the future, he's town. LS- I used to think I could read LS. While his reasoning is "weird" his reads are / used to be actually good if you disregarded what he said and zero'd on just the names. Mafias Most likely further down. Grackaroni - mostly ignored because I still think BH is mafia. Take away BH though, and I don't see anything towny. I think his fight with Ritoky is pure OMGUS. Blazinghand - at first I thought his jokes after the lynch made him town. His hyperawareness on how vote switching works (him telling Ritoky that if Ritoky jumped on the wagon after it was secured, it would have looked suspicious) tells me he is quite aware of his image. So, he's making sure everyone knows he's joking and trying to get us to like him. If he doesn't do anything next days we should kill him. beentheredonethat- I think "emotional" outbursts is a terrible reason to town someone. Vivax - I liked him until his weird shifts prior to the end of the day. His interaction with HF looked terrible. Example Case 2: + Show Spoiler +On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Towny Order Tubesock GlowingBear Koshi - had an entire post in CAPS LOCK. Ritoky Sukrit TicTock LightningStrike - 1/2 Koshitownness since his post was only 1/2 CAPS lock.
Null/mafia not necessarily in order but kinda Shapelog Damdred Rels GiygaS Kushm4sta Vivax
Shapelog I have the same suspicions everyone else does/did. I haven't really studied his filter to see what he's done after the heat was off him. Or what he did eod other than vote Kush.
Damdred I read Damdred's filter solely because of the GB hammer. I didn't like the shenanies but I have seen Damdred do that multiple times as town. Damdred doesn't address GB or Kush at all in his filter and only mentions Vivax with T-4 minutes to EOD. I think he had about 2 reads. I think Rels is right taht he is disinterested in the game. I disagree that it is mafia motivated though. Damdred in my eyes is like Marv/Palmar/Holyflare/BH, if they are alive d4 it's because they are mafia.
Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does. The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games. Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one). After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.
I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately. I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read.
The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.
GiygaS I liked his Rels points. That's pretty much all he's done. Even rereading his filter I didn't see anything that jumps out in either direction. I liked that he didn't seem too phased during kusgate 2015. For the record I don't think anyone who read my filter would think I sheeped GiygaS on Rels. Did G reaffirm and add to things? Yes. Another Rels exaggeration.
Kushm4sta knowing his alignment helps me think more about Rels. Associative reads BAD mmmkay. But he's done jackshit. I think I've read or played with him in 3 games. He was anti-town in all of them. I think copcheck/poe him later.
Vivax has like 4 posts all "I'm sheeping Koshi". Example Case 3: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2015 05:04 Tubesock wrote: In case I die.
Town Soren / Holyflare Breshke Prplhz Rsoultin Half the Sky Jarjarbinks The Shining - I was thinking of having him in the nulls but it would essentially be a policy null. Ace was useless. I like Shining. Plus he likes my thoughts on Dwarf so there's that.
Nulls Onegu - hasn't done a lot. Waiting on his Rsoultin case Stutters695 - I see posts in his filter I like. Some I'm eh ok. I have a hard time towning him when he scums Breshke and Prplhz. I plan on rereading Breshke and Prplhz more to see if I think Stutters points are reasonable. Anyway, focusing on him Day 2. Also thinking about Prplhz's assessment of him. Bourneq - Got a lot of flack from Prplhz at the very beginning. I gave him a couple slight townpoints for something but that was basically it. Don't remember anything else about him.
Mafia TheBloodyDwarf - duh! Example Case 4: + Show Spoiler +On May 04 2016 15:16 Tubesock wrote: headed out for drinks and dinner. Will be back in a few hours. In the mean time:
Towns:
Kush Shape Slam Marvish Ricey jat
If I were to pick who to lynch of the "actives" as it were I'd take time deciding between killing and Fazer. I didnt' really like their answers but they are actually closer to null than anything. You can probably infer what I didn't like about them by some of the questions I directed at them.
for the inactives I'd lynch in this orderish
Dr Thrawn Etellex Mig (modkill though?) Palmar
Example Case 5: + Show Spoiler +On October 24 2016 06:37 Tubesock wrote: My scum list is scummiest to least:
Vivax, Skynx, Koshi Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien Ritoky, GlowingBear Sicklucker
My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers.
I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him.
NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo.
The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB.
So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time)
Example Case 6: + Show Spoiler +On March 10 2015 08:36 Tubesock wrote: So,
Bats and Fecal mafia.
then 2 in
Lightningstrike Alakaslam Sepulchre Keirathi
I think Keirathi is most likely town of the 4. I'd like to hear what Kurumi thinks about Kei. Along with the other confirmed towns, Breshke and Slam.
Sep. I felt like he's "off". But then I think about the Geript "ninja" set up and wifom myself into black holes.
I really don't know about Slam. He does have 3 days to prove useful though. I think he's 65% town.
I've been thinking a lot about Lightningstrike lately. I don't know.
Unless people think Bats is possibly town, he's my next pick. Even Fecal who I was pretty sold was the ninja is more useful. Tell me which ones are from scum TS and which ones came from Town TS. I know the answer. Lmao these all look very similar to me. Gonna have to find a better meta read fam.[/QUOTE] Was about to say... although I apparently played a game with tubesock :o I'm betting he was a scummer there. Or maybe I was. I honestly don't remember anything about him :o
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Tbh it was hard as hell to find list posts from town tubesock but the biggest difference was he does post more words/reasoning for his reads as scum than town in those list posts. I am the meta king afterall.
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On March 14 2019 04:43 LightningStrike wrote:+ Show Spoiler +1,2,3 was Mafia Tubesock the others were Town Tubesock he does actually put more words on his list posts as scum
Thanks. But I do think I’m not playing anything like any of my other games.
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Also please fix your quotes the formatting looks bad mz lol....
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On March 14 2019 04:45 Pandain wrote: I mean really at this point it should be obvious I'm town.
1. Day vig- usually town, I shot (at the very least) an anti town player. 2. Led the lynch away from town ace 3. Led the lynch towards sentinel.
If I keep hearing people fos me it's hard to take seriously anymore if you're actually town. And starting to get scummy.
I like you.
If you want to know why TS deserves a wagon, read the latest edition of the dead zone show and the posts around it.
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On March 14 2019 04:45 Pandain wrote: I mean really at this point it should be obvious I'm town.
1. Day vig- usually town, I shot (at the very least) an anti town player. 2. Led the lynch away from town ace 3. Led the lynch towards sentinel.
If I keep hearing people fos me it's hard to take seriously anymore if you're actually town. And starting to get scummy. No thats not how this works. You don't get to magically clear yourself. Lead a lynch on a few more scum and I may rethink it but that shot was garbage with plenty of scum motivation and your play has been lacking. I'm not pushing you hard yet bc I have stronger reads to work through but you don't get a hall pass.
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On March 14 2019 04:40 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2019 04:15 Tubesock wrote:On March 14 2019 04:09 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2019 04:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: The lack of anyone coming in to support their votes on tubesock aside from maybe LS is not giving me good feels. His reads post is just a big fluffed up post screaming scum. And I already picked out two reads from them that had no real basis. Why are you and jock null and DF is reddish bcuz PoE? These aren't mistakes they are just fake reads. I think MZ and Jock have been doing stuff. You can’t say the same thing about DF. But you’re right they are shallow reads and it wouldn’t take much for me to begin thinking they’re scum. So what's the reason you thought DF was scum. POE and he hasn’t been doing stuff. Like I said. If you’ll notice the other two names are just above his but in black. And there’s a space delineator between them and townreads. I believe the theory that there are 5 mafia left, so of those I think DF is less towny than them. Pretty deep read huh?
What do you think of ExO? You didn’t include him I. Your list post at all.
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On March 14 2019 04:49 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 04:40 Tubesock wrote:On March 14 2019 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2019 04:15 Tubesock wrote:On March 14 2019 04:09 Vivax wrote:On March 14 2019 04:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: The lack of anyone coming in to support their votes on tubesock aside from maybe LS is not giving me good feels. His reads post is just a big fluffed up post screaming scum. And I already picked out two reads from them that had no real basis. Why are you and jock null and DF is reddish bcuz PoE? These aren't mistakes they are just fake reads. I think MZ and Jock have been doing stuff. You can’t say the same thing about DF. But you’re right they are shallow reads and it wouldn’t take much for me to begin thinking they’re scum. So what's the reason you thought DF was scum. POE and he hasn’t been doing stuff. Like I said. If you’ll notice the other two names are just above his but in black. And there’s a space delineator between them and townreads. I believe the theory that there are 5 mafia left, so of those I think DF is less towny than them. Pretty deep read huh? What do you think of ExO? You didn’t include him I. Your list post at all.
He’d be below you. I at least think your arm is a very valid reason to not be playing much.
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Acro you did play with him but you were 3rd party and he was town.
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[QUOTE]On March 14 2019 04:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: [QUOTE]On March 14 2019 04:37 LightningStrike wrote: Example Case 1 s I spoiler each list post: + Show Spoiler +On June 06 2017 07:53 Tubesock wrote:Just in case: PB - too sloppy from his last mafia game. Conversion - he's trying for help and actually giving his thoughts. Too transparent for mafia. HF* He's just too dangerous as mafia to not distrust at least a little bit. In any case I'm not going to lynch him till like D4/5. Ritoky- I felt mindmelded + Show Spoiler +On June 04 2017 14:33 ritoky wrote: i think the town is something like; me, tube, vivax, hf; and tentatively conv and pb
fidei has like....almost exact opposite reads of me. dunno what to think about that.
reading LS mafia, what else is new for me.
btdt has done nothing to change my opinion, still think he is probably mafia.
tw doesn't make a whole lot of sense. defending grack for ???? defending grack from spooky ghosts pushing him???? missed joke early. says "mindmeld" then doesn't say what the mindmeld was. mafia pile.
grack made a joke while being yelled at by BH, so he gets half a town point; but otherwise he hasn't done jack esp for a 2 page filter. actually i just looked at his filter and i take his half point back cuz he doesn't really have any posts pushing the game forward.
BH has been disappointing. i expected RNG -> a play or snowball it into some reads. if that was it, he could be mafia.
onegu...flip a coin. Tumblewood - Uncc'd Doc but I don't think I'd out myself if I were the real doc just yet. Onegu - started the successful shenany. It's certainly possible that he bussed for zero reason, but if he actually performs in the future, he's town. LS- I used to think I could read LS. While his reasoning is "weird" his reads are / used to be actually good if you disregarded what he said and zero'd on just the names. Mafias Most likely further down. Grackaroni - mostly ignored because I still think BH is mafia. Take away BH though, and I don't see anything towny. I think his fight with Ritoky is pure OMGUS. Blazinghand - at first I thought his jokes after the lynch made him town. His hyperawareness on how vote switching works (him telling Ritoky that if Ritoky jumped on the wagon after it was secured, it would have looked suspicious) tells me he is quite aware of his image. So, he's making sure everyone knows he's joking and trying to get us to like him. If he doesn't do anything next days we should kill him. beentheredonethat- I think "emotional" outbursts is a terrible reason to town someone. Vivax - I liked him until his weird shifts prior to the end of the day. His interaction with HF looked terrible. Example Case 2: + Show Spoiler +On December 16 2015 22:09 Tubesock wrote: Towny Order Tubesock GlowingBear Koshi - had an entire post in CAPS LOCK. Ritoky Sukrit TicTock LightningStrike - 1/2 Koshitownness since his post was only 1/2 CAPS lock.
Null/mafia not necessarily in order but kinda Shapelog Damdred Rels GiygaS Kushm4sta Vivax
Shapelog I have the same suspicions everyone else does/did. I haven't really studied his filter to see what he's done after the heat was off him. Or what he did eod other than vote Kush.
Damdred I read Damdred's filter solely because of the GB hammer. I didn't like the shenanies but I have seen Damdred do that multiple times as town. Damdred doesn't address GB or Kush at all in his filter and only mentions Vivax with T-4 minutes to EOD. I think he had about 2 reads. I think Rels is right taht he is disinterested in the game. I disagree that it is mafia motivated though. Damdred in my eyes is like Marv/Palmar/Holyflare/BH, if they are alive d4 it's because they are mafia.
Rels There is a lot I don't like. I really dislike how he targeted LS and once LS went half caps lock Rels backed off. To me it looked like Rels was backing off from a fight which I don't think town Rels does. The next thing he does is finds out Onegu's smurf. I clicked the link, it was page 46 of a 134 page game. There's got to be some easy way to do that I can't really believe he went through the database to wade through games. Shit I went through LS games to see if he did the scum/town bold thing and that took forever. (0 instances of his scum games, 4 instances otherwise not counting this one). After he backs off LS, I vote him and he goes sort of after GiygaS. Later he cases Damdred then really dislikes me. So everyone of his attacks is against a lurker and OMGUS's.
I think he opportunisticly exaggerates. The shockingly different games of LS, how he is my only scum read even though I clearly was suspicious of others earlier but I didn't use the magic X person is mafia (funny I never said that about him either just voted). I think he exaggerated Damdreds meta. Damdred doesn't always play the same. If he did then I would think the veterans here would say they read him well or immediately. I also feel like he knew GlowingBear would flip town. I also think this play is well within his mafia range. he was prettygood in the witch game I read.
The big doubt is if Kushm4sta is mafia or town. I don't think Rels was trying very hard to save GB or kill Kushm4sta. if Kush is mafia then I think Rels has to be town. He was consistent that Kush is null while he said GB is carefree town. If Kush is town then Rels can easily be mafia. Easy.
GiygaS I liked his Rels points. That's pretty much all he's done. Even rereading his filter I didn't see anything that jumps out in either direction. I liked that he didn't seem too phased during kusgate 2015. For the record I don't think anyone who read my filter would think I sheeped GiygaS on Rels. Did G reaffirm and add to things? Yes. Another Rels exaggeration.
Kushm4sta knowing his alignment helps me think more about Rels. Associative reads BAD mmmkay. But he's done jackshit. I think I've read or played with him in 3 games. He was anti-town in all of them. I think copcheck/poe him later.
Vivax has like 4 posts all "I'm sheeping Koshi". Example Case 3: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2015 05:04 Tubesock wrote: In case I die.
Town Soren / Holyflare Breshke Prplhz Rsoultin Half the Sky Jarjarbinks The Shining - I was thinking of having him in the nulls but it would essentially be a policy null. Ace was useless. I like Shining. Plus he likes my thoughts on Dwarf so there's that.
Nulls Onegu - hasn't done a lot. Waiting on his Rsoultin case Stutters695 - I see posts in his filter I like. Some I'm eh ok. I have a hard time towning him when he scums Breshke and Prplhz. I plan on rereading Breshke and Prplhz more to see if I think Stutters points are reasonable. Anyway, focusing on him Day 2. Also thinking about Prplhz's assessment of him. Bourneq - Got a lot of flack from Prplhz at the very beginning. I gave him a couple slight townpoints for something but that was basically it. Don't remember anything else about him.
Mafia TheBloodyDwarf - duh! Example Case 4: + Show Spoiler +On May 04 2016 15:16 Tubesock wrote: headed out for drinks and dinner. Will be back in a few hours. In the mean time:
Towns:
Kush Shape Slam Marvish Ricey jat
If I were to pick who to lynch of the "actives" as it were I'd take time deciding between killing and Fazer. I didnt' really like their answers but they are actually closer to null than anything. You can probably infer what I didn't like about them by some of the questions I directed at them.
for the inactives I'd lynch in this orderish
Dr Thrawn Etellex Mig (modkill though?) Palmar
Example Case 5: + Show Spoiler +On October 24 2016 06:37 Tubesock wrote: My scum list is scummiest to least:
Vivax, Skynx, Koshi Hamaztubo, Lord Tolkien Ritoky, GlowingBear Sicklucker
My biggest problem with this is they are all lurkers. Rereading Acrofales, Dandel Ion, iamperfection I just can't see how they could be mafia. Statistically though, it's improbable that mafia are all lurkers.
I think everyone in the game would kill HF if they were mafia, so it's not really informative that HF scummed: Vivax, Skynx and Koshi (also Art, beenthere,Lunat, ExO, Kurumi, GB, WoS). But if they are mafia then it would be double motivation to kill HF. Koshi already claimed hitting him.
NocturneMage was clearly tryhard so that's a good reason to kill him too. He also scummed Koshi, Skynx and Vivax. Along with Lunatic and was suspicious of Kurumi, GB, TL, ExO, Bill, Hazmatubo.
The kills also implicate Kurumi, ExO and GB. I eliminated kurumi and ExO but don't really remember why. HF was warming up to GB.
So, anyone want to talk about LT, Ritoky, or GlowingBear? I think Hazmatubo will be replaced, and I think Sicklucker will be figured out a little bit better later. (I'm right about Siclucker 50% of the time 70% of the time)
Example Case 6: + Show Spoiler +On March 10 2015 08:36 Tubesock wrote: So,
Bats and Fecal mafia.
then 2 in
Lightningstrike Alakaslam Sepulchre Keirathi
I think Keirathi is most likely town of the 4. I'd like to hear what Kurumi thinks about Kei. Along with the other confirmed towns, Breshke and Slam.
Sep. I felt like he's "off". But then I think about the Geript "ninja" set up and wifom myself into black holes.
I really don't know about Slam. He does have 3 days to prove useful though. I think he's 65% town.
I've been thinking a lot about Lightningstrike lately. I don't know.
Unless people think Bats is possibly town, he's my next pick. Even Fecal who I was pretty sold was the ninja is more useful. Tell me which ones are from scum TS and which ones came from Town TS. I know the answer. Lmao these all look very similar to me. Gonna have to find a better meta read fam.[/QUOTE]
I'll play
Mafia Town I read his in case post so disqualifying myself Town Town Mafia
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Vivax 3 out of 5 attempted I did post the results in a spoiler.
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Also patiently waiting for this wagon to actually start on me. Plenty of threats swirling without anyone ready to take action. When it happens, we can lynch MZ for agreeing with a Acro and advertising that he’s down with killing me, but is putting in no leg work himself. Optimal variety of options!
I don’t think those list posts are meta conclusive at all lol. They all look relatively similar. I moreso agree with Vivax that the list itself looked randomly thrown together and inauthentic. I’m also having a really hard time believing the Town was given two veteran roles with the exact same role PM. Why put in two roles that can CC each other and both be right? That sounds particularly anti town.
My swagger shot mafia pick is LS though. The dude has been active as fuck yet I always forget he’s in the game. Like I view him more as a thread moderator than a player. Not a lynch for today but I’m intrigued for tomorrow.
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On March 14 2019 04:57 darthfoley wrote: Also patiently waiting for this wagon to actually start on me. Plenty of threats swirling without anyone ready to take action. When it happens, we can lynch MZ for agreeing with a Acro and advertising that he’s down with killing me, but is putting in no leg work himself. Optimal variety of options!
I don’t think those list posts are meta conclusive at all lol. They all look relatively similar. I moreso agree with Vivax that the list itself looked randomly thrown together and inauthentic. I’m also having a really hard time believing the Town was given two veteran roles with the exact same role PM. Why put in two roles that can CC each other and both be right? That sounds particularly anti town.
My swagger shot mafia pick is LS though. The dude has been active as fuck yet I always forget he’s in the game. Like I view him more as a thread moderator than a player. Not a lynch for today but I’m intrigued for tomorrow. You always had a hard on for me since Cell Millionaire lol.... But you also have to realized I actually had a personal record in terms of filter size in a single game for myself :o Also I never was a thread monitor per say I was more like a sheep?
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The only thing worthwhile in the Acro case on Onegu is his absolute insistence that no one gets any town cred from lynching Sentinel. That was overplayed and Onegu has seemed pretty chill in this game outside of those posts
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On March 14 2019 04:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 04:57 darthfoley wrote: Also patiently waiting for this wagon to actually start on me. Plenty of threats swirling without anyone ready to take action. When it happens, we can lynch MZ for agreeing with a Acro and advertising that he’s down with killing me, but is putting in no leg work himself. Optimal variety of options!
I don’t think those list posts are meta conclusive at all lol. They all look relatively similar. I moreso agree with Vivax that the list itself looked randomly thrown together and inauthentic. I’m also having a really hard time believing the Town was given two veteran roles with the exact same role PM. Why put in two roles that can CC each other and both be right? That sounds particularly anti town.
My swagger shot mafia pick is LS though. The dude has been active as fuck yet I always forget he’s in the game. Like I view him more as a thread moderator than a player. Not a lynch for today but I’m intrigued for tomorrow. You always had a hard on for me since Cell Millionaire lol.... But you also have to realized I actually had a personal record in terms of filter size in a single game for myself :o Also I never was a thread monitor per say I was more like a sheep?
Yea I’m never gonna fully recover from that one. It’s also one of the reasons I don’t completely buy the Chez town seal. I’ve been burned before.
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