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On September 27 2018 21:44 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2018 07:17 OriginalName wrote:On September 27 2018 07:08 Mocsta wrote: TL is dead.. like.. why even join if you not going to play. Why does this discussion keep coming up.. seriously..
we already know that lynching an afk'r is a terrible option.
(1) there is limited to nil content to vote analyse (2) if we hit town, we are essentially at d1 again (3) as proven recently by HF, it can create seeds of distrust in town that never disappear. (4) The rules require 3 posts per cycle. 2nd offense is modkill. So AFK will self-resolve if genuine; and if making 1 post to stay alive, then we can sort that out as required. and lastly, (4) if the lottery pick actually hits, we are unlikely to be closer to finding the other mafia; given the ease for either alignment to bandwagon.
I would rather "no-lynch" vote then throw a random afk.
I can't get over that in a 9 player game, the activity is so poor that 1/3 is contemplating a random afk vote. I mean I'd rather no Lynch too but this is plurality. The reason the disscussion probably comes up time and time again is that at least some people try to post meaningfully, there's no reason we have to commit to it yet but theres no reason that we can't contemplate it. and even with these points I'd say 3 and 4 are probably the two most valid ones. point 1 is only bad if literally its 'agree to afk lynch and then do it and everyone shuts up afterwords' point 2 is negated by lack of a no lynch option, since low activity d1 lynches are basically just as random as an afk lynch imo. hell if you want a no lynch option your not going to get better than lynching a modkillee since its essentially the same thing. I don’t like this post and I don’t like how hard you are pushing into lynching an AFK question is, do you also like taro boba?
This post annoys me quite a bit. After Mocsta went all "ME OR ON", I think scum will feel sort of pressured to take a side and this post looks like taking a side while still keeping things very much at arms length. Chezinu went all in with the "ON the ON train" post, but Conversion just takes a slight poke.
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On September 28 2018 01:40 prplhz wrote:Wait, does Koshi want to lynch Vivax or no? Show nested quote +On September 28 2018 00:26 Koshi wrote: Vivax last game he entered with vote and then nothing xcept ignoring me and make dumb posts about Kelsier.
Here he is way different.
Different and I think town. You think he is town or what? This is about hf. Talking to Vivax.
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On September 28 2018 02:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2018 01:40 prplhz wrote:Wait, does Koshi want to lynch Vivax or no? On September 28 2018 00:26 Koshi wrote: Vivax last game he entered with vote and then nothing xcept ignoring me and make dumb posts about Kelsier.
Here he is way different.
Different and I think town. You think he is town or what? This is about hf. Talking to Vivax. Oh, right.
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On September 28 2018 01:51 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2018 21:44 Conversion wrote:On September 27 2018 07:17 OriginalName wrote:On September 27 2018 07:08 Mocsta wrote: TL is dead.. like.. why even join if you not going to play. Why does this discussion keep coming up.. seriously..
we already know that lynching an afk'r is a terrible option.
(1) there is limited to nil content to vote analyse (2) if we hit town, we are essentially at d1 again (3) as proven recently by HF, it can create seeds of distrust in town that never disappear. (4) The rules require 3 posts per cycle. 2nd offense is modkill. So AFK will self-resolve if genuine; and if making 1 post to stay alive, then we can sort that out as required. and lastly, (4) if the lottery pick actually hits, we are unlikely to be closer to finding the other mafia; given the ease for either alignment to bandwagon.
I would rather "no-lynch" vote then throw a random afk.
I can't get over that in a 9 player game, the activity is so poor that 1/3 is contemplating a random afk vote. I mean I'd rather no Lynch too but this is plurality. The reason the disscussion probably comes up time and time again is that at least some people try to post meaningfully, there's no reason we have to commit to it yet but theres no reason that we can't contemplate it. and even with these points I'd say 3 and 4 are probably the two most valid ones. point 1 is only bad if literally its 'agree to afk lynch and then do it and everyone shuts up afterwords' point 2 is negated by lack of a no lynch option, since low activity d1 lynches are basically just as random as an afk lynch imo. hell if you want a no lynch option your not going to get better than lynching a modkillee since its essentially the same thing. I don’t like this post and I don’t like how hard you are pushing into lynching an AFK question is, do you also like taro boba? This post annoys me quite a bit. After Mocsta went all "ME OR ON", I think scum will feel sort of pressured to take a side and this post looks like taking a side while still keeping things very much at arms length. Chezinu went all in with the "ON the ON train" post, but Conversion just takes a slight poke.
this post is really bad
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On September 28 2018 01:48 prplhz wrote: I think Vivax may be an lynch, he looks pretty different from last game in that he is very much less active. However, in both this game and in the last game he started out by arguing against thread sentiment, last game against the Kaley-scum-read and this game against the Koshi-town-read. He seems sort of fit for fight so mostly I think he looks scummy because he's not as active as I think he almost always are.
this post is really not good either
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I have no idea what the conclusion is on the first quoted post. Are you saying that Conversion/Chezinu contains mafia because of the "pressure" to take a side?
On the contrary, why wouldn't scum just sit back when they're not being pressured?
Second post says "I might lynch Vivax, he looks different than last game (mafia?). But also kind of looks the same (town?). But he also looks kind of scummy because he's not as active (mafia?)"
Both of them are "here are some words, I am active," but they don't conclude much.. if anything
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I think prplhz is town. His posts look honest. I think he is writing what he believes.
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@conversion Consider that what prplhz just posted was something he believed that could be true.
Just a simple man his opinion.
Also, dont be butthurt cuz he slightly attacked you.
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I feel like I am 100% on the correct path.
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On September 28 2018 02:41 Koshi wrote: @conversion Consider that what prplhz just posted was something he believed that could be true.
Just a simple man his opinion.
Also, dont be butthurt cuz he slightly attacked you.
I'm not butthurt he attacked me, I literally don't understand what he's concluding and why he's waffling so hard on Vivax
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Mocsta Conversion prplhz Holyflare Grackaroni Chezinu OriginalName Vivax
This is really good.
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On September 28 2018 02:42 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2018 02:41 Koshi wrote: @conversion Consider that what prplhz just posted was something he believed that could be true.
Just a simple man his opinion.
Also, dont be butthurt cuz he slightly attacked you. I'm not butthurt he attacked me, I literally don't understand what he's concluding and why he's waffling so hard on Vivax It's ok that you arent as intelligent as I am.
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alright I'm just gonna park on prplhz and be back after deadline
enjoy your throne Koshi
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My righteous throne because I am so right.
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On September 28 2018 02:44 Conversion wrote: alright I'm just gonna park on prplhz and be back after deadline
enjoy your throne Koshi
oh wait I don't work overtime today-- I'll be back before deadline
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I think this is a townie post. I especially like the bolded where I think some confidence from OriginalName about the value of his own contributions posts casually slips into the post with a dig about the worthlessness of HF/Conversion's argument.
On September 27 2018 22:13 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2018 21:44 Conversion wrote:On September 27 2018 07:17 OriginalName wrote:On September 27 2018 07:08 Mocsta wrote: TL is dead.. like.. why even join if you not going to play. Why does this discussion keep coming up.. seriously..
we already know that lynching an afk'r is a terrible option.
(1) there is limited to nil content to vote analyse (2) if we hit town, we are essentially at d1 again (3) as proven recently by HF, it can create seeds of distrust in town that never disappear. (4) The rules require 3 posts per cycle. 2nd offense is modkill. So AFK will self-resolve if genuine; and if making 1 post to stay alive, then we can sort that out as required. and lastly, (4) if the lottery pick actually hits, we are unlikely to be closer to finding the other mafia; given the ease for either alignment to bandwagon.
I would rather "no-lynch" vote then throw a random afk.
I can't get over that in a 9 player game, the activity is so poor that 1/3 is contemplating a random afk vote. I mean I'd rather no Lynch too but this is plurality. The reason the disscussion probably comes up time and time again is that at least some people try to post meaningfully, there's no reason we have to commit to it yet but theres no reason that we can't contemplate it. and even with these points I'd say 3 and 4 are probably the two most valid ones. point 1 is only bad if literally its 'agree to afk lynch and then do it and everyone shuts up afterwords' point 2 is negated by lack of a no lynch option, since low activity d1 lynches are basically just as random as an afk lynch imo. hell if you want a no lynch option your not going to get better than lynching a modkillee since its essentially the same thing. I don’t like this post and I don’t like how hard you are pushing into lynching an AFK question is, do you also like taro boba? I don't think I'm pushing that hard into afk lynching at all considering I stated multiple times that if a better option presented itself I'd prefer that. I also don't think Mocsta is scum just for voting me over a difference of opinion and I'm honestly confused why he went all "IF ITS BETWEEN ME AND ON IM GOING TO VOTE ON!!!!" when honestly I think both of us are pretty piss poor options since at least we were trying have some posts with actual substance. Holyflare and Conversion both arguing over minor semantics like 'how green should your reads start' literally just reads like posting for the sake of posting to me. Which I mean is better than just lurking but considering that honestly it shouldn't matter how people read as long as you're willing to be objective and actually be willing to change your reads. and like cool now everyones posted, tbh i think its weird that chezinu just quickly hops on the first wagon presented and I'd like to know why he did that. I haven't exactly been around for more than a few years and I'm not trawling 5-6 games to metagame you guys so I'm just saying how it looks to me without past context. I don't like this post:
On September 27 2018 22:07 Mocsta wrote: i played a 5p mini before and rolled scum or jester. cant remember much other than that it was REALLY hard to initiate conversation. So little player count makes it much easier to scrutinise posts etc.
I think its quite reasonable that in a 9p game, that there is a similar trepidation.
This is what pinged me to originalname.
He is clearly coherent and well-versed in the mechanics of the game; yet is content plodding along and only sharing that wealth of knowledge when prodded. The thing is, whilst logically sound, it is merely an encyclopedic reference, as opposed to insight for *THIS* game. I may as well be connected to an AI chatbot....
For me, this is the strongest correlation to scum comfort/mentality I have seen all game, which is why my vote was placed.
I will not be around between now and deadline. Good luck The accusation is written in a way that sounds very convincing with a lot of rhetorical flourishes but as far as I can tell the underlying accusation is basically "ON talked about lurker lynching and then replied to my own post arguing against lurker lynching and is doing too much talking about setup." I think Mocsta is overpushing his case in a scummy way in this post. It kind of feels like I'm reading propaganda.
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I agree with Vivax on his post about Koshi:
On September 26 2018 19:46 Koshi wrote: Well. Weird does not equal mafia so I will wait with judgement.
Hf is being really dumb and confrontational at the same time so he is town.
Still voting for afker.
I think HF's posts seemed like pretty standard early game pressure and weren't all that alignment indicative.
And on one kind of random note, the end of Vivax's post struck me as weird just because this is a pretty meh game so far and the last thing I would think to post is "I Really need more posts from Prplhz!!"
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On September 28 2018 03:47 Grackaroni wrote:I agree with Vivax on his post about Koshi: Show nested quote +On September 26 2018 19:46 Koshi wrote: Well. Weird does not equal mafia so I will wait with judgement.
Hf is being really dumb and confrontational at the same time so he is town.
Still voting for afker. I think HF's posts seemed like pretty standard early game pressure and weren't all that alignment indicative. And on one kind of random note, the end of Vivax's post struck me as weird just because this is a pretty meh game so far and the last thing I would think to post is "I Really need more posts from Prplhz!!" Thinking about this more it might mean that Vivax is having difficulty looking for things to fluff up his content.
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Are we lynching Chezinu?
##Vote Chezinu
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