On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote: )= fucking doc not doing their job
If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.
can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.
On June 20 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't even know why you are talking about this since you don't even think disformation is mafia...
'cause I don't like you thinking that when I don't. It's not logical to think that it makes disfo super likely town on its own. So I thought maybe there was nothing to it I didn't see. But there is not.
Of course it does. If you have followed the thread sentiment at all you would know that the people in this game who needed town credit less than disformation are/were exactly darthfoley. If what you suggested would be true there is no reason to make the "check" on disformation because literally anyone else who is mafia is a better target for that WIFOM than disformation is. Basically noone in the game thought he is mafia other than me. Why does disformation need the town credit (which would be the reason to claim a check on a scumbuddy) over anyone else in the mafia team?
You're thinking about it in a backward way. Xata was SCUM and you can't use a scum actions to prove someone is town just because "it wouldn't make sense that it did that ???". And wasn't it you that said exactly that in a QT recently ?
No. I have talked about situations where someone makes a case where "this dude is mafia because this flipped mafia guy ignored him all game (or some other crap like called him town for very bad reasons)".
This is completely different because this situation with Xatalos is a mafia plan and when it is a mafia plan then mafia tries to achieve something with it. If the plan was to claim a check on a scumbuddy - then disformation (now 100% knowing df's alignment) the worst fucking person in the mafia team to claim the check on.
That's literally the opposite situation what you are trying to make it look like i am saying. If you can't understand it then you are just stupid for some reason, or intentionally ignoring the obvious.
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote: )= fucking doc not doing their job
If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.
can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.
I predict that we will somehow overcome that 2 kp / night starting night 3. if you can guess how you are a winner
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote: )= fucking doc not doing their job
If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.
can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.
Let's hope for a cop with some juicy checks then.
actually of everything Rels has written and perhaps of everything Chez has written that I've paid attention to, I like these two posts the least.
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote: )= fucking doc not doing their job
If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.
can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.
I predict that we will somehow overcome that 2 kp / night starting night 3. if you can guess how you are a winner
On June 20 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't even know why you are talking about this since you don't even think disformation is mafia...
'cause I don't like you thinking that when I don't. It's not logical to think that it makes disfo super likely town on its own. So I thought maybe there was nothing to it I didn't see. But there is not.
Of course it does. If you have followed the thread sentiment at all you would know that the people in this game who needed town credit less than disformation are/were exactly darthfoley. If what you suggested would be true there is no reason to make the "check" on disformation because literally anyone else who is mafia is a better target for that WIFOM than disformation is. Basically noone in the game thought he is mafia other than me. Why does disformation need the town credit (which would be the reason to claim a check on a scumbuddy) over anyone else in the mafia team?
You're thinking about it in a backward way. Xata was SCUM and you can't use a scum actions to prove someone is town just because "it wouldn't make sense that it did that ???". And wasn't it you that said exactly that in a QT recently ?
No. I have talked about situations where someone makes a case where "this dude is mafia because this flipped mafia guy ignored him all game (or some other crap like called him town for very bad reasons)".
This is completely different because this situation with Xatalos is a mafia plan and when it is a mafia plan then mafia tries to achieve something with it. If the plan was to claim a check on a scumbuddy - then disformation (now 100% knowing df's alignment) the worst fucking person in the mafia team to claim the check on.
That's literally the opposite situation what you are trying to make it look like i am saying. If you can't understand it then you are just stupid for some reason, or intentionally ignoring the obvious.
First, "now 100% knowing df's alignement" is not interesting 'cause you didn't know that at the time. Second, that don't make sense. You are doing EXACTLY what you said you wouldn't be doing. Actually, not exactly, but in the essense that's what you're doing it. Cause you don't know what is the scum team. You don't know their plan. Maybe they thought disfo was the best dude to fake a check in 'cause he was in no risk to be lynched. Maybe they were just trying to get a counter claim. It doesn't make sense to conclude that disfo is town from that. Cause maybe that was the goal - and that goal, that you said was not reachable, you're ironically reaching it by townreading disfo.
On June 20 2017 08:21 disformation wrote: reading the op is powerful.
you're looking at this in a too surface-level way. pretending not to have read the op, but in a way that only town could have missed (since scum obviously would be aware of their own kp) is an attempt to build towncred via "too little information" (the opposite of TMI, if you would) without actually contributing to scumhunting or taking part in a significant way. In fact, by spreading misinformation or asking for cop claims, one might say it's quite the opposite in terms of actual help.
On June 20 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't even know why you are talking about this since you don't even think disformation is mafia...
'cause I don't like you thinking that when I don't. It's not logical to think that it makes disfo super likely town on its own. So I thought maybe there was nothing to it I didn't see. But there is not.
Of course it does. If you have followed the thread sentiment at all you would know that the people in this game who needed town credit less than disformation are/were exactly darthfoley. If what you suggested would be true there is no reason to make the "check" on disformation because literally anyone else who is mafia is a better target for that WIFOM than disformation is. Basically noone in the game thought he is mafia other than me. Why does disformation need the town credit (which would be the reason to claim a check on a scumbuddy) over anyone else in the mafia team?
You're thinking about it in a backward way. Xata was SCUM and you can't use a scum actions to prove someone is town just because "it wouldn't make sense that it did that ???". And wasn't it you that said exactly that in a QT recently ?
No. I have talked about situations where someone makes a case where "this dude is mafia because this flipped mafia guy ignored him all game (or some other crap like called him town for very bad reasons)".
This is completely different because this situation with Xatalos is a mafia plan and when it is a mafia plan then mafia tries to achieve something with it. If the plan was to claim a check on a scumbuddy - then disformation (now 100% knowing df's alignment) the worst fucking person in the mafia team to claim the check on.
That's literally the opposite situation what you are trying to make it look like i am saying. If you can't understand it then you are just stupid for some reason, or intentionally ignoring the obvious.
First, "now 100% knowing df's alignement" is not interesting 'cause you didn't know that at the time. Second, that don't make sense. You are doing EXACTLY what you said you wouldn't be doing. Actually, not exactly, but in the essense that's what you're doing it. Cause you don't know what is the scum team. You don't know their plan. Maybe they thought disfo was the best dude to fake a check in 'cause he was in no risk to be lynched. Maybe they were just trying to get a counter claim. It doesn't make sense to conclude that disfo is town from that. Cause maybe that was the goal - and that goal, that you said was not reachable, you're ironically reaching it by townreading disfo.
I don't see this argument heading in any useful direction. Rayns logic makes sense. How about you 2 talk about different stuff instead.