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On June 15 2017 22:05 Skynx wrote: I prolly forgot to mention it earlier but disfo is top town until end of this game, you should slow down otherwise you're dead tonight bro.
explain pls?
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On June 15 2017 21:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote: yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. This was wrong btw and I'm possibly going to fry disformation for it at some point If HF is town here it's kind of funny cause he's feeding mafias false info and they believe it without fact checking. That would speak for Xata, disfo mafia. tell me something new? i already posted about that.
On June 15 2017 18:28 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 18:24 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 18:15 disformation wrote: yes, but she formed/posted her own opinion on that. before you called her out. Ummm no? On June 13 2017 07:55 Eversince wrote: /in
Times killed my last attempt at playing. Round 2 time! On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote: I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. ^ post I replied to oh wait. i think i missed that post from you: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 03:23 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote: I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? He made 1 sentence in 1 post defending Koshi. The issue is he said he didn't think HF/Disform's arguements made Koshi mafia. HF/Disform never claimed that but cased him as 3p. Already pointed out as being a misrep by HF. Disagreeing on a read doesn't mean I'm defending said person, it just means I'm not going to vote that person for said reasons. And the mafia/3p thingy is just a bad argument from the get go. Rayn is mafia cause he doesn't put a /3p when he says that the reasons don't make Koshi mafia/3p? Cmon her own opinion on that came later in: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote: and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia. Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con. This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns. The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed. uh. that makes it actually harder to tell if she formed that opinion on her own, or if she kinda was forced to by ppl talking about it etc... hmm...
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On June 15 2017 22:10 darthfoley wrote: Also to build off what Skynx/disfo said, why is everyone letting Palmar actively not play the game without putting any pressure on him? I know he lives in Iceland. You go put a gun to his head. Probably the only way you can force him. Or at least the only way people haven't tried yet.
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On June 15 2017 22:12 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 22:05 Skynx wrote: I prolly forgot to mention it earlier but disfo is top town until end of this game, you should slow down otherwise you're dead tonight bro. explain pls? Really? Because he has been involved in every case and accusation so far in the game? He's scumhunting non stop.
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This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.
Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.
Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince
btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions.
Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.
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On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote: This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.
Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.
Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince
btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions.
Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.
This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game.
I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads
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I am fine sitting on Xatalos then.
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On June 15 2017 21:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:44 Xatalos wrote:On June 15 2017 03:35 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:27 Xatalos wrote:On June 15 2017 03:15 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote: DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?
And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler". Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion. @ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it. Well, it's just an inaccurate description... Maybe I have some not-so-important posts, but certainly not only those.. Besides, I just don't see what's bad about the Skynx events. Skynx's points on disfo caught my attention more than his underlying point to bring attention to ruxxar, that's all. He was later forced to elaborate and only then did it become clear that ruxxar was where his main focus was (I guess it was possible to notice by reading his original post more carefully, but I digress). I'm more interested in hearing what you make of the game and its players at this point, now that you've caught up. Fair enough. At this point I mainly dislike ruxxar and rayn - mixed on Koshi. I've already talked about rayn/Koshi so here's some points about ruxxar: 1) Like Skynx pointed out very early on, ruxxar called disfo's opening post a strong post... when it was really null at best. ruxxar later tried to explain it away by saying that it was just a tone read, unrelated to the content, but really? All I got from the tone of disfo's opening post was non-committing/vague, not decisive/relaxed/insightful or things a townie tone should be. Maybe the format wasn't overly polished, but so what? And is it a strong post if it's just bad/unpolished? Felt to me like ruxxar was staying stuff he didn't actually mean and then tried to somehow salvage the situation. 2) This post... On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote: alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. This makes it real simple. Lynch eversince. If green, lynch sicklucker. Guaranteed 1 scum down. ...is probably the least town-motivated post I saw so far. Not only is that "plan" bad, but it has a thought process of happily lynching people with little to no reason. Again, not aligning comfortably with a town mindset of making the most out of our lynches, but rather just using them up on someone (like scum would). 3) On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote: I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Really....? Now that Koshi has a huge wagon he just sheeps it with no reason whatsoever? - - - All in all, I'll be switching my vote to ruxxar. 1) is a mistake/thought a townie can make/have. I don't see the mafia motivation anyway. 2) why would a guy that has survived 12 lynches in a row make that comment? I also don't know why a guy who plays tryhard town would make that comment. But I think town makes more often yolo comments than mafia. 3) Again. Yolo town or calculated mafia? I think town. If he is mafia, he hasn't shown any mafia agenda. Just lacklusterness. Maybe he is a bit demotivated he rolled mafia and is now swinging it. That is possible. But I can make such a story from town perspective as well. Maybe he is blue and trying to stay in the shadows? Who knows? And I think his posting is open, I don't see an agenda. So I go with town. Dnu why. But I thought I was replying to Vivax here.
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On June 15 2017 22:45 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote: This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.
Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.
Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince
btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions.
Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls. This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game. I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads I mean there is gona be disagreements but for now if that 8-10 people work together mafia is gona have a tough time no matter what. So for the sake of argument, Vivax and you having same reads, you're prolly thinking in same pattern and both town
I'm not a fan of killing afk/one posters D1, which i kinda supported when i first started playing. Mainly because if left alive, they feel the pressure and step up D2, either producing well content and joining town or slipping and getting lynched. Meanwhile D1 we actually lynch someone who has gave us some sort of information.
All things considered, there is gotta be one mafia in annul/grack/fefe/ruxxar/xata. I'm reading Xata now.
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On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote: This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.
Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.
Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince
btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions.
Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls. why rels though?
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On June 15 2017 22:53 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 22:45 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote: This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.
Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.
Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince
btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions.
Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls. This is pretty much where I am, but i'm wary of Vivax because he town read btdt and has thrown shade at me even though we have had similar reads and arguments for the whole game. I would also suggest we don't lynch btdt today. I think he's played a town game but i'm probably biased because we've had lots of similar reads I mean there is gona be disagreements but for now if that 8-10 people work together mafia is gona have a tough time no matter what. So for the sake of argument, Vivax and you having same reads, you're prolly thinking in same pattern and both town I'm not a fan of killing afk/one posters D1, which i kinda supported when i first started playing. Mainly because if left alive, they feel the pressure and step up D2, either producing well content and joining town or slipping and getting lynched. Meanwhile D1 we actually lynch someone who has gave us some sort of information. All things considered, there is gotta be one mafia in annul/grack/fefe/ruxxar/xata. I'm reading Xata now. Very close to my list. Good stuff. As long as we ignore HF this game we might solve it.
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On June 15 2017 22:57 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote: This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.
Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.
Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince
btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions.
Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls. why rels though?
On June 15 2017 08:51 Rels wrote:My thoughts catching up. Will vote marv tomorrow if he still haven't posted. Otherwise ruxxar or Eversince. + Show Spoiler + ruxxar: - "I like it" on a disfo post that didn't deserve any of it. Not that it deserved scum points. But nothing to like in it. - buying SL's red check. Propose we lynch Eversince, then SL if she flips green. No game vision. Gullible.
Skynx: - good first post on ruxxar's post where he said "I liked it".
Koshi: - didn't understand Skynx' post on ruxxar when it was the best post in the thread yet. Uncharacteristic. Bad. - called rayn's attack on bad disfo a defense. Bad. - good post on BTBT being bad - a Koshi town post "mm Vivax might be mafia" out of nowhere - p35. Lock town.
disfo: - pretty gullible. That's scummy. Bought SL's red check. - had a throwaway read on Koshi, HF picked it up, and he had a weird reason to vote Koshi. Weird stuff all around.
rayn: - picked up that above stuff on disfo. Good.
Vivax: - entered the thread liking Skynx' post. Good. - liking the annul's post I liked. Good.
BTDT: - called Koshi town for no reason - turned around on voting Koshi when he decided HF was serious on Koshi - townie posts though (p 21)
annul: - calling the HF vs Koshi as it is pretty likely to be (HF screwing around) => good
DF: - also understanding Skynx post + doing his own thing (p 18). Dunno why he doesn't like Xata though. Didnt find anything Xata did so far was AI. - nice post explaining why Xata is scummy. Convincing too, the bit where Xata missed Skynx' logic.
Damdred: - weird that he starts playing calling some people scummy, when usually he's super unsure D1 and tries to build a "no-lynch" list rather than the opposite. - though he's thinking about the game as a whole. Having a "rayn scum means Koshi no scum" mindset. Even though that mindset is bad, especially D1, it's townie.
FF: - liking the question to ruxxar. Is evolving his read based on what's happening. Doubting too, then getting back to it.
Eversince: - answering FF's questions about what are the things against rayn, then saying she doesn't see the things against rayn. Weird. Maybe scum and entered the thread with an answer to FF to have an easy good looking first post.
Grack: - weird, against sentiment reads, but I can follow them. Good.
Xata: - good post on ruxxar.
rayn: - LOL butthurt defense in his huge post when it was 100% uneeded, just for the ego. Pretty likely town.
This mainly, disagree with some of the reads here but decided to give him a pass. Might be a rash decision but when i gather thoughts on others i might update the list.
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Only problem with Rels his post is that he thinks Ruxxar is mafia and bases a lot of reads on that.
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What I get from Xata is that he's around but just chilling.
He seems to be pretty mixed up in the whole me calling out ruxxar and followup from there thing, eventually voting ruxxar deeming there is enough stuff on him. + Show Spoiler +On June 15 2017 03:44 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:35 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:27 Xatalos wrote:On June 15 2017 03:15 darthfoley wrote:On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote: DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?
And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler". Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion. @ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it. Well, it's just an inaccurate description... Maybe I have some not-so-important posts, but certainly not only those.. Besides, I just don't see what's bad about the Skynx events. Skynx's points on disfo caught my attention more than his underlying point to bring attention to ruxxar, that's all. He was later forced to elaborate and only then did it become clear that ruxxar was where his main focus was (I guess it was possible to notice by reading his original post more carefully, but I digress). I'm more interested in hearing what you make of the game and its players at this point, now that you've caught up. Fair enough. At this point I mainly dislike ruxxar and rayn - mixed on Koshi. I've already talked about rayn/Koshi so here's some points about ruxxar: 1) Like Skynx pointed out very early on, ruxxar called disfo's opening post a strong post... when it was really null at best. ruxxar later tried to explain it away by saying that it was just a tone read, unrelated to the content, but really? All I got from the tone of disfo's opening post was non-committing/vague, not decisive/relaxed/insightful or things a townie tone should be. Maybe the format wasn't overly polished, but so what? And is it a strong post if it's just bad/unpolished? Felt to me like ruxxar was staying stuff he didn't actually mean and then tried to somehow salvage the situation. 2) This post... Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote: alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince. This makes it real simple. Lynch eversince. If green, lynch sicklucker. Guaranteed 1 scum down. ...is probably the least town-motivated post I saw so far. Not only is that "plan" bad, but it has a thought process of happily lynching people with little to no reason. Again, not aligning comfortably with a town mindset of making the most out of our lynches, but rather just using them up on someone (like scum would). 3) Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 02:05 ruXxar wrote: I have read Koshis filter and determined he is mafia.
##vote koshi Really....? Now that Koshi has a huge wagon he just sheeps it with no reason whatsoever? - - - All in all, I'll be switching my vote to ruxxar. This is all fine.
What's not fine is that he's not revealing ANYTHING at all. I mean there are absolutely no reads other than ruxxar. He has a 3 page filter but not a list, one scumread, no townreads. Lets say he lasts a few days and D3 we analyze him, his D1 will look like he did nothing while being around all the time and having a 3 page filter. This is kinda worse than Palmar.
On June 15 2017 03:12 Xatalos wrote: Btw could someone condense the case on Koshi? I get the fact that he said some 3P-sounding things earlier on, and isn't playing to his town (or scum?) meta... Still the huge wagon makes me wary. For example here you can see him pretending to be interested but instead of "hey x why do you think Koshi is mafia?" we get the bolded, and no follow up. Filter is pretty much just thoughts like this.
On June 15 2017 03:34 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote: I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him? For rayn, it's mostly just that he's been very lackluster/passive so far. The worst thing that stood out to me was how he just talked about "Koshi not being mafia" though everybody was speculating about Koshi being 3P at that point. It's like he didn't even read what people said about Koshi and made his conclusion anyway. He's following the game, but no thoughts on the situation. If you're kinda null, just tell. If you think rayn is town at least say so, don't have to defend him maybe but it will prompt people to ask you questions and so on.
He is playing a pretty risk-free game. Props to DF for spotting him earlier on, very lynchable.
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Xatalos, at least the only post I've read of him in regards to vivax, was very much comment on a thing and have no conclusion (was it him that said he town read vivax but couldn't remember why?) and then leave again.
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On June 15 2017 23:46 Holyflare wrote: I honestly have no idea how I'm town read by 90% of the game tbfh. Calling you town is a stretch I'll admit but you're here and doing work, in your own way. All the conversation you spark up might lead to something maybe who knows.
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On June 15 2017 23:51 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 23:46 Holyflare wrote: I honestly have no idea how I'm town read by 90% of the game tbfh. Calling you town is a stretch I'll admit but you're here and doing work, in your own way. All the conversation you spark up might lead to something maybe who knows. Don't encourage him.He only leads to doom and despair.
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On June 15 2017 22:40 Skynx wrote: This town needs some structured plan as we head into the lynch.
Now I dunno how we can convince Palmar to play since he won't submit to few votes. I will read more on Xata and Ruxxar and see what comes up. There could be a mafia there. Koshi is contributing, altho not perfectly in supertown scumhunting Koshi mode, his mafia game is out there after D2 tho so defo not lynching today. I also don't think rayn is mafia from that one Koshi defence, I will see when he gets back into the thread.
Meanwhile I have kind of town circle in: HF, Vivax, disfo, Damdy, Rels, DF, Eversince
btdt has 1 lazy "I'm here" post. It'd be nice if VA actually played. TW is in and out, not feel like he's playing either. Fefe and Grack i didn't really like and will go back and read. I don't like annul from first impressions.
Quickdraws shoot AMG/marv or if u feel adventurous sl pls.
If it's a stretch why am I in your town circle though? Koshi is weird to you and he isn't but now calling me town is a stretch, so I should be similar to a Koshi read, but I'm in your town circle?
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