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MoosyDoosy
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On June 08 2016 10:41 Fecalfeast wrote: ##vote beentheredonethat change your vote? I actually townread this dude. He was the only one with logical reasoning and thoughts in his posts. Sure the people he went after were lackluster but he's a waste of a vote right now imo. | ||
Skynx
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Not you, Scott or blk. | ||
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Or btdt | ||
emperorchampion
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Fecalfeast
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Moose who do we kill, then? | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:48 emperorchampion wrote: How are these big targets? What about kush? Who do you think is more scummy. Skynx or kush? | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: we're definitely not killing scott today. vote somewhere else emperor Why not scott, he seems pretty scummy, no? | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:49 emperorchampion wrote: Why not scott, he seems pretty scummy, no? in what way? | ||
emperorchampion
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All he's posted are some reads with no back up lol, like what is the point? | ||
Skynx
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On June 09 2016 04:48 Fecalfeast wrote: So you want to kill someone with more thread presence rahter than someone who isn't contributing? That isn't a towny mindset imo. Moose who do we kill, then? My opinion is mafia would be happier if we mislynch a non-factor today. In the current state of the game everyone is calling shots on different targets,. | ||
Skynx
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Skynx
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So I'm suggesting people clarify their reads so we can pick a common target. | ||
emperorchampion
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On June 09 2016 04:49 MoosyDoosy wrote: Who do you think is more scummy. Skynx or kush? I will answer this after you tell me why you don't think scott is scum. | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:58 emperorchampion wrote: I will answer this after you tell me why you don't think scott is scum. Too little to go on. And you did answer anyway so it doesn't really matter. | ||
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also: On June 08 2016 00:26 emperorchampion wrote: Also I don't think I ever hard read QT as maf, just hypothosised that it was odd QT and Tumble were defending each other. This was the information I was interested in. I dunno you are trying to twist my words I feel This made me check and it seems he was really hedging his bets and skirting around making any hard calls at all about QT. On June 05 2016 01:41 emperorchampion wrote: I took a look through Tumblewood's filter, since he seems like the only one posting anything of note aside from QT-pie and Jealsus (which is a cesspool I don't want to wade through). + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 09:39 Tumblewood wrote: the folly in this is that no one "protects themselves from further inspection" by posting images instead of responses, nor is that "key for scum to do". qt should not be afraid of the pressure you are putting on him because it is weak pressure (in the sense that it is convincing no one else) and it does not help him avoid inspection. Here it looks like tumble is putting pressure on Jealous. This is based off of defense for QT, since he gave strong townread to QT earlier here: On June 04 2016 09:20 Tumblewood wrote: shitty early d1 reads that I shouldn't be making town: superbia, qt town lean: emperor null: moosy scum lean: jealous scum: [pending further posts] To which is commented: On June 04 2016 09:21 Tumblewood wrote: if asked to defend any of my reads right now I will only respond by saying "feels" So now that we've framed the context of the first post, I think that there are two ways of interpreting it: 1) He is protecting QT-pie 2) He's calling a bad play a bad play From the previous context, I would think former, but reading the following posts I think the ladder: On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote: what but why it's in town's best interest to look townie (except to dodge nightkills) so town doesn't waste a lynch on them On June 04 2016 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: his scumreads are founded in a mountain of evidence, but that evidence does not make anyone scum. I don't see how you can refute his reads as misled but then call them good and townie all of a sudden. townread suspended On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote: ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2 or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time. In my mind, it seems that there is some sort of triangle between QT-pie, tumble and Jealsus. At first I was thinking that QT/tumble could be a pair, but "6/10" lynch is pretty strong against that, although maybe tumble doesn't think the QT vote will go through so he doesn't have to push it? Jealsus/QT-pie: there are 3 options: 1) both town, 2) town and maf 3) both maf. I think that 3) is pretty unlikely, seems like such a ballsy play to carry out those shenanigans. I think that 2) is more likely than 1). Jealsus/tumble: I think it's fairly well summarized from the post above: "ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills". Also: "Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment" So from this, I find that Jealous is a common thread in all of this, so I would be interested in hearing why he isn't maf, or what he is trying to accomplish aside from generating pages of noise against QT-pie. My towny read on QT still stands, and I think that tumble has shown some decent thought, so I think that I'm leaning town on him as well. Therefore, my maf read sits with Jealous since I want to see how these 3 players unravel. has QT in a possible scum pair On June 05 2016 00:37 emperorchampion wrote: QT v Jealous has obviously dominated the first few pages so far. I've been thinking similarly, but that there is a third option as well --- I'm not sure how likely that is though. On June 06 2016 03:03 emperorchampion wrote: I think that Skynx could be scum, not really sure on the rest since I haven't looked too much into it due to not having too much time atm. Superbia / Tictock seem town. Fecalfeast / scott not really sure. Seems like a mafia move to push an afk tho, so I don't know what it accomplishes. I think my vote has to go into tumble / QT / Jealous to figure this out. keeps QT in his lynch circle even though he was leaning more toward jealous as scum out of QT/jealous On June 06 2016 02:53 emperorchampion wrote: OK so I think I'm caught up. Am I crazy for thinking that Tumble / QT are a mafia pair given the last two pages? QT/tumble mafia pair mentioned On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote: I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town. kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me. This, among other posts also suggests that emperor should have been pushing jealous a lot more today rather than just being complacent with the thread direction. so my questions for emperor: What do you read Jealous as? Who do you want to kill and why? Why was it so hard for you to make a solid read on QT while talking about him so often? | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote: To further elaborate, there is no way I'm wasting my vote on a coin-flip today. How do you rate from most coin-flippy to least coin-flippy?? | ||
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