Do you play for fun or do you hear "Ok turn 1, I'll play a plains, sol ring, lightning greaves, mox opal, tap the mox opal for white and play serra ascendant, attach the greaves and swing for 30" in your nightmares like me?
On February 20 2015 12:22 Fecalfeast wrote: Do you play for fun or do you hear "Ok turn 1, I'll play a plains, sol ring, lightning greaves, mox opal, tap the mox opal for white and play serra ascendant, attach the greaves and swing for 30" in your nightmares like me?
Nah. Our playgroup is pretty chill and casual. Though we do all run sol ring. Usually the first 5 turns are spend playing lands. We also mostly play multiplayer.
I was planning to make a huge and funny post, but I'm going to keep it short and sweet. I'm not sure what to think about the possible slip from LS caught by ritoky, it kind of messes up the circles in my head.
Actually a LS/HtS team makes sense since I'm reading a shitload of other people town.
BH asked earlier what I thought about Palmar. He's active and mirroring some/most of my thoughts. That being said, I feel like he's somewhat different from the last I played with him in which we were both town (PYP). Can't really explain it well. He might be mafia playing very well (fear lyncherino).
Okay, so I'm dropping my tinfoil hat theory; there's just no reason for even a half-assed mod intervention to prevent scum from being lynched lol.
@FF, reads list from towniest to scummiest:
Blazinghand - Obv reasons, but he really did have a lot more input than I remembered after going back through his relatively lengthy filter. I even like that he's gotten off his KILL VA bandwagon, if for what I consider to be a pretty stupid case.
Palmar - Sheer activity. The last time I saw a Palmar this invested, he was town, and I don't think he would have approached the Rayn lynch the way he did if he knew that Rayn was town.
lightningstrike - I'm like an oracle when it comes to reading LS. Just accept it. And if you can't; just look at the games we've played together. There's an unfettered feel to how he's playing (and it's flat-out bullshit to say that he ever does meta cases/reads correctly...he often doesn't compare all the games available or give examples, though I wish he would if he's going to use meta)
Half the Sky - Her cases may have been wrong, but the sheer amount of effort put into them, and the conviction with which she fought for them, makes me think it's coming from a townie source. My reservations are that she seems more aggressive than I remember, and I didn't like most of her early posting at all. In fact, most of her posts other than her cases are kinda meh for me. The cases/pushes win out, though.
Superbia - Some good posting, but minimal. The vet claim strengthens the townlean almost to the point where I'd be confident to call him town. Yet I keep thinking back to Protoss where he was a town leader and we helped each other after Palmar was shot, and I'm not seeing that here. With all the towncred he's gained from that one google search and now a claim, he should be right in the mix, giving reads and giving townies someone to talk to they can be fairly confident of. Also not really buying BH's claim that only he is clever enough for a play like this xP
Breshke/Damdred Waffling on Damdred. He came in strong with that case, but Breshke was basically a non-entity with almost nothing but townreads. I'm also not seeing a lot of that in-depth analysis that makes me go yay, town Damdred! To be fair, though, I have a habit of expecting too much from Damdred and just calling him scum whenever he seems to be doing illogical things. Another eureka moment half as good as that Eden case in Linux would have him skyrocketing into my firm town section.
Alakaslam - I keep fluctuating on him. Sometimes the happiness seems like it could be town slam, but he's been swinging a lot between very "lucid" posts and completely worthless ones. He keeps saying he's finding towns, but I have yet to see those conclusions except for the one time he was asked who the towniest town was.
Fecalfeast - Still like some of his posting. Just not getting a strong town vibe from him. He seems to have suddenly gotten more interested in scumhunting tonight, and my paranoid mind is whispering...SK? If he's not the SK, though, I don't really think he's mafia.
IAmRobik - Disclaimer: Kind of hate how he plays and part of this is probably OMGUS. But seriously, if you're trying to call SK shots, unless I'm his biggest scumread ever, suggesting to shoot me is so anti-town it's ridiculous. The last thing town needs right now is another town flip, and he should realize that. The obvious play is to take out a player everyone is generally scumreading, because even if they're town, that's one less person to mislynch tomorrow. I'm not calling him straight-up mafia just because his reads have been pretty good this game, and I know he's a good enough player that this doesn't necessarily mean he already knows everyone's alignment.
VayneAuthority - The AFK wonder of the group. Meta-reads aside, it's coming up on end of N2 and the lurking has crossed from inactive to flat-out scummy.
ritoky - His filter was just straight-up unimpressive. Add in all the little I'm not scum, I'm not scum, see my town tell? posts and it's even worse. Obviously if he knows his town tell so well (and I'll admit I have no clue what that actually is) he can emulate it as scum. The "LS is mafia cause this is so a secret OBS QT convo" case is so shit tier that he deserves to be lynched with fire.
prplhz - Gonna come straight out and call him the "gimme scum" of the bunch. Most people I have little doubts about here or there, but prplhz does the quadruple whammy of: shit!entrance, no real scumhunting, general inactivity, and returning to the thread just to ask for updates or whine at the people scumreading him for their reasons. Like, there doesn't even need to be a case against this guy, it's so open and shut.
The three bottom I'd lynch (or be happy to see shot) in a second. This game is way too easy (though I wouldn't complain!) if I'm right on Robik and FF, too, though. I'd guess the other two are in my null/null-leaning-scum reads. The null-leaning-town reads I'd need to see a good case for to lynch tomorrow.
Superbia may I suggest reading rsoultin's filter from Horns of Africa Mini Mafia when she was Mafia and compare it her other games she had played when she was town? Also for HTS's Mafia play check Newbie LX and Void Mafia and compare those to the her other games when she town?
Town: - BH - ritoky - Robik - FF - VA (literally sheeping this read)
SK: - Damdred
Which leaves: - HtS - rsoultin - LS - Palmar - Slam - prplhz
So HtS made a case earlier on FF which she then easily abandoned to sheep a case on Rayn. I don't believe a townie would put so much time/energy into a case on someone just to easily abandon it like she did. But on the other hand she has put a lot of time into the game. Mafia pile bc yolo.
RSO has seemed paranoid and active as well. I called her out for afking during the EoD1 crucial time, in which a VT claimed cop and got lynched. This was exceptionally scummy, but her play otherwise has been fine. Town pile because her thought process makes sense, I guess.
LS first seemed like mafia, but people defended him and called him town. His filter seems way different compared to his mafia filter, though it was a long time ago. The slip is idk. I prefer not to base my reads on those, since it can be interpreted in several ways (maybe being dumb since it's 5 am). Town after all I guess. Gotta stick to those god-meta-reads.
Palmar seems town but a bit different for some reason. It seems like he's leading and being loud, but the presence doesn't seem to be completely there for some reason. It may just be my disconnect with the game. Maybe town maybe good mafia.
Slam seems different from PYP game. No interactivity with town. Does his own thing. Slam is mafia.
Ritoky is town because he seems to be genuinely paying attention. Also he seemed town d1.
Robik seems angry and therefore. Honestly I came to EoN to call him scum but I read his filter and it seems townie. Especially compared to PYP, where he was scum. Might be underestimating his scum play. But I don't have a lot of time.
FF I read as PR/Mafia early on. Reread his filter and he seemed town. I kind of have a town soulread on FF which has not come to fruition this game. Gut says he might be mafia, head says he's town. Sticking to head on this one.
VA is called town by people who claim to read him. I read his d1 filter and seemed to agree with almost everything he said, which is why I read him town independently. I'm not sure why he's been very lurky.
On February 20 2015 12:56 Superbia wrote: Town: - BH - ritoky - Robik - FF - VA (literally sheeping this read)
SK: - Damdred
Which leaves: - HtS - rsoultin - LS - Palmar - Slam - prplhz
So HtS made a case earlier on FF which she then easily abandoned to sheep a case on Rayn. I don't believe a townie would put so much time/energy into a case on someone just to easily abandon it like she did. But on the other hand she has put a lot of time into the game. Mafia pile bc yolo.
RSO has seemed paranoid and active as well. I called her out for afking during the EoD1 crucial time, in which a VT claimed cop and got lynched. This was exceptionally scummy, but her play otherwise has been fine. Town pile because her thought process makes sense, I guess.
LS first seemed like mafia, but people defended him and called him town. His filter seems way different compared to his mafia filter, though it was a long time ago. The slip is idk. I prefer not to base my reads on those, since it can be interpreted in several ways (maybe being dumb since it's 5 am). Town after all I guess. Gotta stick to those god-meta-reads.
Palmar seems town but a bit different for some reason. It seems like he's leading and being loud, but the presence doesn't seem to be completely there for some reason. It may just be my disconnect with the game. Maybe town maybe good mafia.
Slam seems different from PYP game. No interactivity with town. Does his own thing. Slam is mafia.
prplhz is wat. Mafia.
I can kinda see the argument on Robik and FF...but what makes you think ritoky is town? And lol, that VA read xP Are you just sheeping Robik, then? Cause insofar as I understand the meta, it's he doesn't do shit till a scum flip, which in my mind puts him at null at best.