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United States10774 Posts
On November 18 2007 05:05 IaniAniaN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2007 04:51 Pervert wrote:On November 18 2007 04:50 ktp wrote: Why is 6/2 position on Python difficult for Protoss in PvT? It's very close walking distance so a 2 fac rush would be more effective. According to GGplay 2 is the position that gives you the slowest resource intake, I'm not sure if it's been fixed in 1.3 though.
ya they fixed it in 1.3
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On November 18 2007 06:29 Kuja900 wrote: HAHAHHAH THIS IS SO PERFECT!, bonjwa my arse getting 3-1ed by a dark horse he aint anything close to a bonjwa bisu has fallen i expect a osl stomping promptly in his future, id love to see it from the hands of a zerg
did you even read the story of the bonjwa? Bisu can either win this msl OR the next one. sAviOr dropped an MSL as well and he is still considered the bonjwa of his time.
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I'm starting to get tired of this bonjwa thingy, not even because I can't pronounce it either..
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Hmmmm...
Mind took out iloveOOv. Then sAviOr. Then Bisu.
He's quite well-rounded. I guess NaDa will be more reluctant to teach him, if there is anything else to learn.
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So depressing Why didn't Bisu even make any HT's. Storm would've helped him so much on game 4, with those tank and goliath clumps. I hope he wins the OSL instead, and start a new trend of OSL title before 3 MSL for bonjwa.
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On November 18 2007 04:09 boudiou wrote: Is timing push that appealing? For me the answer is obvious : no.
It is when it's that well executed. New and unexpected is exciting; I doubt that anybody would deny that. But I also like seeing old things done with near perfection. Mind's pushes were really, really good. His timing was really, really good. I know that because Bisu's attempts to stop the pushes were also really good. But they didn't work.
That's how he beat Savior, too. Yeah, Bisu's pvt is not quite as good as a couple other people's (but not very many). Yeah, Savior's zvt is slipping a bit, and there are probably a couple other people (but not many more than that) out there with better zvt now. But neither of them is a slouch. And Mind didn't do anything fancy. They didn't lose to strategy. They lost to execution. Mind used standard approaches that both Savior and Bisu have seen hundreds of times in practice, and he still won. That might not be as ground-breaking as a brand new strategy would be, but I still have fun watching it. Bisu didn't make any huge mistakes, but he didn't have to; Mind put on a masterclass on timing pushes, and the few of Bisu's choices that one might question in hindsight (though for the most part, one probably wasn't questioning them during the game itself) were enough.
I don't mean to say that standard things executed really well are going to be appealing to everybody, of course; people have different tastes. But it's appealing enough to me that I enjoyed the finals. Neither person did anything fancy. Both people played well. That made for good games, and that's enough for me.
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You know, I was going to jump on the bandwagon and start going "OMG MIND U SUCK LUCKY FUCKER," and rant about how much I hate mind, but hey, I'm hoping this causes a revolution in WeMade and inspires Nada to win his fourth OSL.
If it doesn't... Mind you suck. You can't be the best player on WeMade, that title can only belong to one player!
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does anybody have a video of the ending? i want to see bisu's face when he recieves the 2nd place price.
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On November 18 2007 07:50 Aepplet wrote: does anybody have a video of the ending? i want to see bisu's face when he recieves the 2nd place price.
Seconding this
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I'm sick of you Bisu pansies making excuses.
HE LOST!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
ugh for the last time there are no specifics behind the term bonjwa and its not something thats thrown around lightly
there isnt always one bonjwa and you don't get called bonjwa for taking specific leagues in a specific order
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Oh how did bisu lose? I gotta see these vods
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im tired of seing no name terrans winning.. nothing against Mind.
but the last 20 mbc and ogn starleagues we had way more terrans than protoss and zergs.
and always some terrans from nothing like mind can take out people like bisu, savior..(the few good protoss and zerg players) =(
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lol so much for bisu being clutch
edit: gogo OSL though
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On November 18 2007 11:44 Kacas wrote: im tired of seing no name terrans winning.. nothing against Mind.
but the last 20 mbc and ogn starleagues we had way more terrans than protoss and zergs.
and always some terrans from nothing like mind can take out people like bisu, savior..(the few good protoss and zerg players) =( Yes, there have been more terrans than other races (sometimes even more terrans than both races combined). And of course, the OSL has historically been good for terrans. But before you start complaining about "seing no name terrans winning," it might be worth noting that the last terran to even play in an MSL final was Nada over two and a half years ago, and the last terran to win an MSL was oov the season before that. Terrans have dominated the OSL, but whining about terrans winning too much in the MSL is stupid. (Also, always some terran takes out savior? Do you mean "in the last couple leagues" when you say "always"? Because Savior wasn't exactly known for getting taken out by terrans until recently.)
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i don't care if it's MSL or OSl, terrans have had their share and i'm not ready to see them dominate the scene again :/
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On November 18 2007 14:05 a-game wrote: i don't care if it's MSL or OSl, terrans have had their share and i'm not ready to see them dominate the scene again :/
They probably won't. It's the first Terran after a long time to reach a final (and win it). Bisu, Stork, Savior and Jaedong are typical Terran killers. Maybe Bisu and Savior are slumping in the matchup but I still have faith in them to get rid of many pesky Terrans.
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PANTECHHHHHH TERRANNNNNN POWERHOUSEEEEEEEeee. I told you guys it would happen.
It just took me losing 400 bucks on Bisu. Fuck you Bisupie. I hated you always, and now I hate you 400 bucks worth more. GJ -_____-;; O well, ~_~ at least he was man enough to admit defeat. That made me like him lots.
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savior won on terran maps
bisu lost on toss maps
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Frickin Brown Eyed Girls performed the opening ceremony heck yeah!! At least Bisu got to see them... Mind too for that matter. If I can see them perform...
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