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On October 22 2013 06:28 July617 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 03:44 onlywonderboy wrote: Also I realize there is nothing wrong with making a case against someone even if most people think they are town, but his reasoning is/was weak and is just him repeating the same thing over and over. Yes there is Did you not see nyx's death ? And Istandwithmitt's almost death ? Building cases against town's is to the detriment of the town itself, you're giving suspicion where there is none, and that's how you end up lynching townies when they have no business being lynched at all .
Dude that's the whole point of the game. Scum will build cases on people regardless of whether they are town or not (bussing) to appear more town.
Sorry I've been away.
Bereft, can you explain why you think SK is either me or owb?
Also, has anybody considered mitt as SK like I asked about in my post? He could certainly be SK: playerboy went hard on him and then he voted for playerboy, he went after GGTemplar on day2 and now he's dead. Possible trend.
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On October 22 2013 06:35 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 06:28 July617 wrote:On October 22 2013 03:44 onlywonderboy wrote: Also I realize there is nothing wrong with making a case against someone even if most people think they are town, but his reasoning is/was weak and is just him repeating the same thing over and over. Yes there is Did you not see nyx's death ? And Istandwithmitt's almost death ? Building cases against town's is to the detriment of the town itself, you're giving suspicion where there is none, and that's how you end up lynching townies when they have no business being lynched at all . Dude that's the whole point of the game. Scum will build cases on people regardless of whether they are town or not (bussing) to appear more town. Sorry I've been away. Bereft, can you explain why you think SK is either me or owb? Also, has anybody considered mitt as SK like I asked about in my post? He could certainly be SK: playerboy went hard on him and then he voted for playerboy, he went after GGTemplar on day2 and now he's dead. Possible trend.
Balla he's not even trying to build a case.
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Well neither did you last night, to be fair... people in this game have been absolutely piss poor at building cases this game.
But yes, July, the fact that he's not building a case makes me more suspicious of him as SK.
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EBWOP: last night -> yesterday
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On October 22 2013 06:48 Balla24 wrote: Well neither did you last night, to be fair... people in this game have been absolutely piss poor at building cases this game.
But yes, July, the fact that he's not building a case makes me more suspicious of him as SK. Do you not consider it building a case because I'm not pulling specific quotes? I've been building my case against July in these last couple pages. I could quote random posts where he's talking out of his ass and not contributing anything, but I considering that's what almost all of his posts are I figured just saying to read his filter would be enough to back up my claim.
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On October 22 2013 06:28 July617 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 03:44 onlywonderboy wrote: Also I realize there is nothing wrong with making a case against someone even if most people think they are town, but his reasoning is/was weak and is just him repeating the same thing over and over. Yes there is Did you not see nyx's death ? And Istandwithmitt's almost death ? Building cases against town's is to the detriment of the town itself, you're giving suspicion where there is none, and that's how you end up lynching townies when they have no business being lynched at all . All I meant was if you have a good case as to why someone is scum even if most people think they are town your should present it. You did not do this in this case.
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Nah. I just said that to get a reaction out of you. It's impossibly hard to build a case on July from his post content. Look at his interaction with ggtemplar and vote record as well as night actions. Is there anything incriminating there?
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On October 22 2013 05:09 E00e wrote:I feel bad for the already dead players that we didnt do much this day . hey same I feel so bad I got so busy these past 2 days >< if only they had left Seuss and taken me! oh cruel world.
I'm still at work, but ima be frantically reading filters on my phone. if there's at least one other townie who can be around at the deadline we'll have a shot to not get rolled by town.
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[QUOTE]On October 22 2013 07:47 Bereft wrote: [QUOTE]On October 22 2013 05:09 E00e wrote: if there's at least one other townie who can be around at the deadline we'll have a shot to not get rolled by town.[/QUOTE] wat
Kappa
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There's nothing incriminating with ggtemplar, but he could very well be the SK and not mafia. There's nothing concrete but there's certainly a lot of random posts that don't help the town. SK has the luxury of being able to just sort of hang out and let the mafia/town destroy themselves. You've picked apart a lot of my posts trying to make me out as the SK, but that was me just trying to contribute and apparently failing. Meanwhile July has just been watching on the sideline trying to swing the vote towards a townie.
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***by mafia
hahahah oh gawd. I swear that's not a scum slip. I suck at multitasking.
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On October 22 2013 07:49 onlywonderboy wrote: There's nothing incriminating with ggtemplar, but he could very well be the SK and not mafia. There's nothing concrete but there's certainly a lot of random posts that don't help the town. SK has the luxury of being able to just sort of hang out and let the mafia/town destroy themselves. You've picked apart a lot of my posts trying to make me out as the SK, but that was me just trying to contribute and apparently failing. Meanwhile July has just been watching on the sideline trying to swing the vote towards a townie.
No. If he's SK he wouldn't care who gets voted. Unless he knew that "townie" was actually mafia and he needs to even up the mafia/town ratio. However, he wasn't trying to lynch anybody yesterday as it was already pretty much assured that someone was going to be lynched, so putting his vote on you could possibly be a safe way to say "I don't care who gets lynched".
Nyx had a lot of random posts that don't help the town either and he was actually town. I don't really see how this situation is any different than Nyx's. This time you're not defending him though you're going for him.
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On October 22 2013 07:56 Bereft wrote: ***by mafia
hahahah oh gawd. I swear that's not a scum slip. I suck at multitasking.
STFU SCUM !!!!!!!!
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I sympathized with nyx's frustration, but I didn't have a sound argument for him not being mafia, it was just a gut feeling. One that happened to be right.
I think I've accepted that I'm not going to change your mind Balla, but if any other town players around please read my points on July and consider voting for him instead of Saga or Balla. I'm not the only person who was suspicious of him, Odin was pressuring him hard and Suess had him on his potential scum/SK list. It's not like I'm a crazy person here and the only one who thinks he's suspicious.
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Please don't accept that.
Why don't you have that gut feeling for July though? It's like just cause he's not mentioning the fact that it's his first game and he feels weak because of it you don't have that feeling.
I would argue that you should have had that feeling for July and NOT nyx. Let's look at their posting:
Nyx - Nyx sheeped onto Odin then Seuss/Bereft - Claimed he didn't have any reads on anybody all game because he didn't know how to. - Had non-existant defenses
July - Is making his own very weak reads - Has very weak defenses - Is not sheeping.
July looks WAY more like a bad, inexperienced town player than nyx did. - Has weak defenses
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EBWOP scratch that last line T_T
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I think nyx's bad play was him not knowing what to do, July's seems more like he's trying to look like a town player and just failing. I felt much more like nyx in my first game and was why I sympathized with him. I mean, it could have easily been a mafia ploy, but his frustration ended up being genuine.
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What makes his more genuine then mine ?
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Nyx lynch made perfect sense because we tough he was SK. July had several accusations on him in the past days that always put him back to suspicion. I don't really believe mafia casting suspicion onto each others is what happened, especially in day 1 and 2. I am extremely uncomfortable about how strong and easy this July vote train is looking. Bereft and mitt what do you guys think?
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His was genuine because I now know he flipped town . It was dumb of me to defend him simply based on his impassioned cries, I could have easily have been being tricked. I refuse to take that same risk again. Your play has lead me to believe you are not town and I'm not going to back down again based on someone simply saying "hey, I'm not scum/sk."
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