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1. Port Forwarding
1a. Getting IP address of your router
1b. Setting Ports
1c. DMZ
1d. Do not have a router
1e. Questions
2. LiveStream
2a. Streaming Live Games
2b. No stereo mix
2c. Streaming with Procaster...
3. Winning a beta Key
1. Port forwarding!
So everyone knows about people not being able to host games on battle.net. Or iccup, whatever floats your boat
This will hopefully lead you to be able to create your own games!
1a. Getting IP address of your router
+ Show Spoiler +First you need to find the name of your router, i will use this lovely Linksys WRT54GL. There should be an ip address somewhere on your router, usually on the bottom or the back. If not or you can't find it.. or do not feel like getting on your hands in knees simply open command prompt and type ipconfig, it should be the one under Default Gateway. [url=http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu356/wonkman/DefaultGateway.png]http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu356/wonkman/DefaultGateway.png[/url] (Thank you SnowFalling) You should get something along the line of 192.168.1.1 Now you simply input that into your closest Firefox or Internet Explorer address bar and you are prompted with a login screen. Usually the default login is one of these three And is located on the back of the router usually with the IP address Login: admin password: password Login: password: admin Login: password: password If you can not log in with one of these three then please find your login from google and go on to the next step.
1b. Setting ports
+ Show Spoiler +First you must find your Port fowarding page and have it be somewhat the same as this After you have that you will need to load command prompt and type ipconfig You should find where it says IP Address. . . . . . 192.168.xxx.xxx You want to jot down the last number of the address. Then go back to the port forwarding screen With your new information you want to forward 6112-6112 on Both UPD and TCP And 4000 on Both UPD and TCP Make the last number in the ip address the number you just jotted down. This step alone will not let you make games Proceed to DMZ
1c. DMZ
+ Show Spoiler +DMZ comes in many different forms. In this picture You can clearly make out the DMZ portion at the top. I have seen cases where it was Firewall and named something completely different. In which case you want to turn the firewall down or completely off in some cases. Regardless, after finding DMZ and enabling it if you have to put the same IP that you jotted down in the last step. After saving your information you should be good to go.
1d. Do not have a router
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Either
A. Get one
or
B. Call you Internet service provider and ask them kindly to foward the ports mentioned here, 6112 and 4000 while enabling your DMZ.
They should understand, but be weary if your ISP resets and your IP address gets reset you will have to call them back everytime.
This is why you should get a router asap ^.^.
1e. Questions
If you have any questions... please pm me on teamliquid and i will try to help you the best i can.
2. Livestream or mogulus.
Livestream, which was used to be know as Mogulus is a very nice website which allows you to stream many things from live games to FPVODS of yourself
all for free. I will not get into FPVODS as it is explained very well in the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=90892
2a. Streaming live games
+ Show Spoiler +Streaming live games is what i will cover as people have been trying to do this some with great success John7KFC, konadora, Oscarl, and Others with not so much success Pholon. Having a great upload speed will result in the best quality but i use a 250 Kb/s upload speed which is only half of livestream's free user max. First and foremost, Never EVER use Procaster. It is a very bad program that has set limits and delays the audio by as much as 3 seconds. I would suggest using Camtasia 4.0, or WebcamMax. Both have been very easy and simple to use. So after you have Camtasia or Webcammax i want you to get Adobe Flash Media Encoder 2.5. https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=fme25Yes you have to register and log in and etc. Now after you have done that i want you to open up your Adobe flash media encoder and your capturing device(WebcamMax, camtasia, something else). If you are using camtasia i would suggest going to this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=90892 for the know-how of getting the program to record your screen. Webcam Max however is a very simple program and allows you to draw little doodles everywhere ^.^ You want to set the setting to the ones show here After this is set up keep it open and hop to your Adobe Flash Media encoder screen. You want to set your Video Device to WebCamMax Capture and your Audio to Stereo Mix(If you do not have stereo mix then refer to 2b) These are the settings i use, if you want higher quality set your Video to something below 500 and make sure your total amounts to under 500. After all of this is done.. all you have to do is be one of the lucky.. 100 or so to get a stream. After which you just line up your Camtasia or WebcamMax up with the stream and start Flash media encoder!
2b. No Stereo Mix
+ Show Spoiler +Stereo mix allows you to give the audio of what you are hearing. This allows to have perfect audio streaming along with your video. I mean who would want to miss out on the koreans yelling PLAGUUU? If you do not have stereo mix, and you can not find a driver for it then may i suggest to you a great program called Virtual audio Cables. This program itself allows you to have stereo mix! Note: This program does cost some money and i would not suggest getting an illeagle copy *cough* http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html#historyI will now explain how. First you install the program, I am sure eveyone knows how to do this. Next you want to open up your Control panel and Audio repeater from the start menu. Your control panel should look like this And your Audio repeater should look like this Huge Note: Please close everything before starting this, it will only work if the programs are started AFTER these are initiated. (If you are too later, Restart^.^) Now you want to open up your Audio Properties from the control panel. And do this! Apply This and then go back to Audio Repeater and press start! You should now be able to choose Virtual audio cable 1 in Adobe flash media encoder, and thus be able to have stereo mix!
2c. Streaming with procaster...
+ Show Spoiler +As i have said in 2a .. never ever use procaster.. It delays the sounds of the game and has been know to cause enough lag to have to restart it every 10 minutes D: I have not used it unless my other programs had died for some reason or i had not reinstalled/repaired them right before the games started. But i will for the sake of consistency tell you how to show games with procaster! So first you open up procaster.. and log in.. Make sure your channel at the top is the channel you want to broadcast.(Some people have multiple channels) And then you go to preferences You click on video.. and it should come up with this! don't touch the encoder part but make your target bitrate lower than 500 and whatever you max upload rate is with about 50 less. Then you go to audio Switch your Source to Stereo mix.. or virtual cable or whatever you want and then hit the save button! You then press Go Live and wah lah! Works perfectly ^.^ you simply zoom in/out towards whatever is playing and it should show it on whatever livestream account you have connected to.
3. Winning a beta Key
Hopefully i help at least one person with this guide and that more streamers will come and stream live games ^.^ and also i win a beta key. - Wonk out
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This is sweet. Your livestream has been indispensable for me since the demise of Daum Sports - hopefully this guide will make even more relay streams available. Thanks!
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Nicely done, great guide indeed.
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what's with all these betakey contests? XD
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Awesome! I was looking around on how to do the stereo mix for live streams! Virtual audio cables here I come!
Thanks again wonkman!
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This port forwarding guide is VERY specific only for linksys routers since you're only showing their GUI and their passwords (for example: d-links default is admin and no password).
Also a quicker way to get the routers IP-adress is to go trough command and check ipconfig, under default gateway it always says the routers ip-adress.
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regarding ur 1b and 1c
With your new information you want to foward 6112-6112 on Both UPD and TCP And 4000 on Both UPD and TCP
Make the last number in the ip address the number you just jotted down.
This step alone will not let you make games Proceed to DMZ
can u put screen shots with the numbers filled in because i am kinda an idiot who doesnt know how to fix router and such.Thanks.
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On June 02 2009 20:37 justiceknight wrote:regarding ur 1b and 1c Show nested quote +With your new information you want to foward 6112-6112 on Both UPD and TCP And 4000 on Both UPD and TCP
Make the last number in the ip address the number you just jotted down.
This step alone will not let you make games Proceed to DMZ can u put screen shots with the numbers filled in because i am kinda an idiot who doesnt know how to fix router and such.Thanks.
www.portforward.com
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hey, thanks for this guide. i tried it and now i can host, BUT, i'm worried about the DMZ. i read somewhere that it opens all the ports and that it can be kind of risky.. is that true? i don't want my computer to be completely vulnerable or anything so i was just checking to see if it was actually okay to enable. thanks.
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first of all I just always have to point this out:
there is no such thing as "MY internet" there's the internet, a huge fucking network of computers all around the world, so unless you've actually built your own very large network then please don't call it "my internet". it makes you look dumb.
aaaaaaaaanyway, are you worried about hackers/crackers/trojan horses taking over your computer and using like 1kb/s of your upstream to do a massiv ddos attack? if you answerd no then you can turn on DMZ. if you answerd yes, well... you're not really safe behind a firewall either way.
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This guide is missing a pretty key piece of knowledge: how to initiate a PPPoE connection on your router instead of on your modem. Depending on your setup, this may be necessary to play in games with more than two players. (it was for me)
DMZ should never be necessary, but take that (and all such advice) with a grain of salt--your personal modem/router situation is likely to be unique in one or two frustrating respects.
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On June 03 2009 04:34 SnowFalling wrote:
first of all I just always have to point this out:
there is no such thing as "MY internet" there's the internet, a huge fucking network of computers all around the world, so unless you've actually built your own very large network then please don't call it "my internet". it makes you look dumb.
aaaaaaaaanyway, are you worried about hackers/crackers/trojan horses taking over your computer and using like 1kb/s of your upstream to do a massiv ddos attack? if you answerd no then you can turn on DMZ. if you answerd yes, well... you're not really safe behind a firewall either way.
okay.. edited it for you, sorry that was such an irritant.
anyway, you confused me.. basically you're saying i can get flooded like that either way so i should just turn on dmz and be done with it?
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On June 03 2009 03:43 ChoRds wrote:
hey, thanks for this guide. i tried it and now i can host, BUT, i'm worried about the DMZ. i read somewhere that it opens all the ports and that it can be kind of risky.. is that true? i don't want my computer to be completely vulnerable or anything so i was just checking to see if it was actually okay to enable. thanks.
Dmz from what wikipedia says..
The purpose of a DMZ is to add an additional layer of security to an organization's Local Area Network (LAN); an external attacker only has access to equipment in the DMZ, rather than the whole of the network.
btw this is only a small chunk..
I have never had a problem with opening DMZ and it has allowed me to host games.. play games that were once unable to connect to the internet.. I have not been say.. hacked because i opened my ports by enabling DMZ and i don't believe it opens all of your ports because if it was that simple then why go on bothering with opening 4000 and 6112 on TCP and UPD to begin with ? D:
Also if hackers are dedicated.. it doesn't matter if you have DMZ on or off as stated in snowfalling's post :D
On June 03 2009 04:56 threepool wrote:
This guide is missing a pretty key piece of knowledge: how to initiate a PPPoE connection on your router instead of on your modem. Depending on your setup, this may be necessary to play in games with more than two players. (it was for me)
DMZ should never be necessary, but take that (and all such advice) with a grain of salt--your personal modem/router situation is likely to be unique in one or two frustrating respects.
Unfortunately i have no idea what PPPoE is but i will try to learn and add it to the guide ! Although i have no idea where to start.. D:
Regarding DMZ the only way i myself have been able to host games was to enable my DMZ and then forward my ports.
On June 02 2009 14:06 SnowFalling wrote:
This port forwarding guide is VERY specific only for linksys routers since you're only showing their GUI and their passwords (for example: d-links default is admin and no password).
Also a quicker way to get the routers IP-adress is to go trough command and check ipconfig, under default gateway it always says the routers ip-adress.
Yes i know it is very specific towards linksys but i also mention if those passwords don't work to try to find theirs online.. or on the back of their router itself. It usually shows the IP address to connect to and the username/password to used to connect to their screen.
I will add the ip address from command prompt to the guide ^.^
On June 02 2009 20:37 justiceknight wrote:regarding ur 1b and 1c Show nested quote +With your new information you want to foward 6112-6112 on Both UPD and TCP And 4000 on Both UPD and TCP
Make the last number in the ip address the number you just jotted down.
This step alone will not let you make games Proceed to DMZ can u put screen shots with the numbers filled in because i am kinda an idiot who doesnt know how to fix router and such.Thanks.
you add the number you have to the end of the IP address just like where you found it in Command Prompt
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ohh okay, thanks wonkman.
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On June 03 2009 05:15 wonkman wrote:
Also if hackers are dedicated.. it doesn't matter if you have DMZ on or off as stated in snowfalling's post :D
It's not dedicated hackers that people are worried about, it's automated services that look for vulnerabilities at every IP address they can find. Windows used to be horribly insecure from attacks like that–it would helpfully leave a bunch of ports open by default–but it's probably much better these days. I'm not rationalizing anything here, just trying to explain where some of the paranoia comes from.
On June 03 2009 05:15 wonkman wrote:
Unfortunately i have no idea what PPPoE is but i will try to learn and add it to the guide !
It's not too complicated, but if your modem is initiating the connection (the norm these days) then you need to change settings on both your router and your modem for this to work. In my case this was a bit of a pain because I had to figure out my connection username and password, which I otherwise hadn't needed.
Unfortunately, I don't know very much about how this stuff works, but I was unable to play in games with more than 2 people until I did this. In my case, even enabling DMZ was no help.
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On June 03 2009 06:03 threepool wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2009 05:15 wonkman wrote:
Also if hackers are dedicated.. it doesn't matter if you have DMZ on or off as stated in snowfalling's post :D
It's not dedicated hackers that people are worried about, it's automated services that look for vulnerabilities at every IP address they can find. Windows used to be horribly insecure from attacks like that–it would helpfully leave a bunch of ports open by default–but it's probably much better these days. I'm not rationalizing anything here, just trying to explain where some of the paranoia comes from.
Ah i see.. in my 4 or so years with DMZ on i have had no trouble.. and most people do have an anti-virus of some kind. I believe insecure attacks like that would be made from popups and insecure browsers like internet explorer. I couldn't really explain much less know what else the internet could do to an enabled DMZ D:
Show nested quote +On June 03 2009 05:15 wonkman wrote:
Unfortunately i have no idea what PPPoE is but i will try to learn and add it to the guide !
It's not too complicated, but if your modem is initiating the connection (the norm these days) then you need to change settings on both your router and your modem for this to work. In my case this was a bit of a pain because I had to figure out my connection username and password, which I otherwise hadn't needed. Unfortunately, I don't know very much about how this stuff works, but I was unable to play in games with more than 2 people until I did this. In my case, even enabling DMZ was no help.
i.. have never seen a case like that D: so i have no idea where you are coming from unfortunately
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On June 03 2009 06:09 wonkman wrote:
Ah i see.. in my 4 or so years with DMZ on i have had no trouble.. and most people do have an anti-virus of some kind. I believe insecure attacks like that would be made from popups and insecure browsers like internet explorer. I couldn't really explain much less know what else the internet could do to an enabled DMZ D:
Well, there's really two questions. One is what ports you have open on your computer, and one is what can be accomplished with access to these ports. Windows has a history of both having too many ports open by default, and having security vulnerabilities that allow these exposed services to be exploited. (again, I said history, I don't really understand the current situation)
In an extreme case, an attacker (or attacking program) could simply log on to your computer, and do whatever they wanted, (e.g. delete everything) regardless of what browser you use. Antivirus programs won't do much in general against this kind of attack.
Choose your own level of paranoia–I'd personally only do something like that if I was completely aware of literally every open port on my computer, but it sounds like you've done alright. Just remember that it only takes a single newly discovered Windows vulnerability and your data could be in serious trouble.
On June 03 2009 06:09 wonkman wrote:i.. have never seen a case like that D: so i have no idea where you are coming from unfortunately
It's the sort of thing that could conceivably depend on the exact model of modem and router, as well as your ISP. One of the many reasons this stuff is such a pain in the ass...
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Thanks + Rep to Wonkman, might be able to stream something tonight =]
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On June 03 2009 11:18 Solinren wrote:
Thanks + Rep to Wonkman, might be able to stream something tonight =]
GREAT :D
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Let me get this straight for mixing audio for commentating on streams.
You have output audio for your computer as the Virtual line.
You have input audio for your computer as the Virtual line too.
You have input audio for FMLE as the Virtual line too.
I see how this mixes the output from your speakers(what you would hear in BW) and the input from your mic into one option(the Virtual line), so when you select it as the input audio for the stream the people watching should hear audio from your mic and the SC game together, correct?
Also, if you have your computers output as the Virtual line, then you won't be able to hear your own BW will you? Unless you could somehow set your computers output as both the Virtual line and your speakers.
I'm saving a file after I record for like 10 seconds with the setup you mentioned, but when I listen to the recording with my speakers set as my audio again all I see is a black screen and I can't hear anything. Is this what the people watching my stream get too, or do they actually hear it properly, despite me not being able to?
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