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was the former Korean president murdered?

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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 27 2009 05:38 GMT
#1
So, there was already a thread on TL about the suicide of this man, Roh Moo Hyun. Pretty shocking stuff. But after the initial reports came out, all of which showed that it was a suicide, some very strange stuff has come up.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/05/113_45734.html

For one thing, the only guy with him at the time was his bodyguard. That man has apparently changed his story several times, and now admits that he was NOT with Roh Moo Hyun when he jumped.

Next is the body. They wasted no time at all in cremating the body, even though you'd expect that for a case like this they'd want to examine it carefully to eliminate any possibility of murder.

Then there's the suicide note, and will. Well, they were both written on his computer, and according to law, a will that's written on a computer is not legally binding. Roh Moo Hyun was a lawyer for many years, and should have known that. And no one saw him actually write them.

But wait, it gets worse. Who's the suspect here? None other than the current president, Lee Myun Park. He controls virtually all the major media in Korea, and he was behind most of the investigations which ruined Roh Moo Hyun's reputation. He also imprisoned many of Roh Moo Hyun's family and friends. Since Roh Moo Hyun was considerably more popular than Lee Myun Park, he would have both the motive and the means to get rid of his rival like this.

Normally I hate conspiracy theories like this. I don't believe that Bush organized 9/11, or that LBJ killed Kennedy, or any of that stuff. But this story really bothers me. What makes it a lot more believable is when you read about the poltical history of Korea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_South_Korea
I can't believe how many dictators, military coups, and assassinations they've had in just 60 years.

So what have you guys heard about this? My Korean ability sucks, so I'd love it if some of the Korean speakers here on TL could tell me what people there are saying about this.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-27 05:43:01
May 27 2009 05:40 GMT
#2
Wait, the current President of S. Korea has family and friends of a (then) political opponent in prison...? I am assuming they were related to what the former President was being accused of such as bribery etc.
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 27 2009 05:43 GMT
#3
yes, he ordered them jailed for their part in the corruption scandals surrounding the former president.
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KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
May 27 2009 05:43 GMT
#4
sounds like a cover up.
moshi moshi~
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 27 2009 05:47 GMT
#5
wow uh i am not sure what to think of this...
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 27 2009 05:49 GMT
#6
Sounds like murder to me but its possible otherwise, so long as esports continues and the country is well taken care of it doesn't bother me TOOO much although it is wrong to just kill someone for power, hope it doesn't affect to many people
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
May 27 2009 05:50 GMT
#7
Hmm.... this sort of things remind me of something once upon a time...
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 27 2009 05:51 GMT
#8
On May 27 2009 14:49 Space[Fright] wrote:
Sounds like murder to me but its possible otherwise, so long as esports continues and the country is well taken care of it doesn't bother me TOOO much although it is wrong to just kill someone for power, hope it doesn't affect to many people

well, if this is true I think it's quite possible that the country could plunge into rioting (which has happened there before) or possibly even a revolution. I don't think many people will be thinking about esports if that happens...
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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
May 27 2009 05:54 GMT
#9
hey, this actually seems like a legit conspiracy for once! J C Denton to the rescue...
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Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
May 27 2009 05:56 GMT
#10
Some other odd things I heard:
- there was no blood around his head on the floor, even though his head was completely bashed in
- he presumably made it up the hill himself (?) in his bad physical health, which is unlikely

There were more but I forgot...
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
May 27 2009 05:57 GMT
#11
Seemingly legit conspiracy theory for once!

Travis to the rescue!
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KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
May 27 2009 06:09 GMT
#12
i suspect the murderer could be the bodyguard who type his will on the computer as he cant imitate his handwriting on paper.
moshi moshi~
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
May 27 2009 06:23 GMT
#13
TL dominates the internet.
Next = TL dominate politics/conspiracies?
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
May 27 2009 06:31 GMT
#14
I believe it as a case of political indirect murder.

In addition to what the OP and Smix said, there has been many other odd factors that points to this case being a murder instead of a suicide.
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 27 2009 06:32 GMT
#15
what are some other factors? this is pretty...crazy lol
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 27 2009 06:35 GMT
#16
On May 27 2009 15:31 konadora wrote:
I believe it as a case of political indirect murder.

In addition to what the OP and Smix said, there has been many other odd factors that points to this case being a murder instead of a suicide.

Please post some. It's very hard to find english language sources for this. In fact, this thread is already one of the top results I get on google.
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 27 2009 06:54 GMT
#17
Either the will is a red herring, or some conniving bastard forgot to do his homework. If it's the latter, whoever typed the thing must be feeling pretty crappy right now. Anyways I'll be eager to witness how this intrigue or lack thereof unfolds. I just hope that if people are culpable, they don't avoid justice.
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
May 27 2009 07:53 GMT
#18
There was one thing about how the will that was saved on his computer - you know how when you save a document, it usually saves as the first sentence that's written.. well, this one was saved by the 2nd sentence or something..

On several Korean websites, there's a list of different crazy things that's come up, but the government has been taking them down. No freedom of speech here...
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
May 27 2009 08:21 GMT
#19
On May 27 2009 15:35 Luddite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2009 15:31 konadora wrote:
I believe it as a case of political indirect murder.

In addition to what the OP and Smix said, there has been many other odd factors that points to this case being a murder instead of a suicide.

Please post some. It's very hard to find english language sources for this. In fact, this thread is already one of the top results I get on google.

I'll try to find videos, I watched in on TV so...
POGGERS
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 27 2009 08:26 GMT
#20
On May 27 2009 14:57 Last Romantic wrote:
Seemingly legit conspiracy theory for once!

Travis to the rescue!

im glad i impress u so much
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