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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 20 2009 17:13 GMT
#49
Looks like nobody is smurfing in this one, so I won't either.

Sign me up for the fun please!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 23 2009 11:19 GMT
#277
As per usual I'm late entering the new Mafia thread (altho I read some of it last night, didn't have the time to post anything worthwhile). Ad as per usual the thread is growing very rapidly right off the bat, even if some of u don't agree, lol. It's a bit difficult for me to keep up with it all ATM due to exam papers and lots of translation work to do (some other people mentioned, it's exams season for some of us now :o), but I'll try to post something more useful a bit later.

For now I'd just like to say it's strange to me why most of the people jumped on the vote-for-Qatol bandwagon so eagerly. All the other candidates (and good candidates are in there, may I add) barely got a vote or two. But I suppose there's nothing too suspicious about it yet, seeing as how Town probably just wants something new, and Ace was just way too lazy in his "campaign"

Looks like Qatol has it won anyway, so I'll just abstain so as not to make the bandwagon any bigger.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 23 2009 11:27 GMT
#278
Also, something to add to the Showtime! business.

It's only what's expected from Showtime!, since that's how he played himself in pretty much every other Mafia game. My advice is, he should be completely ignored. He provides no info or logic whatsoever, only confusion. And confusion only helps Mafia, be it themselves who spread it, or a silly townie.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 23 2009 16:00 GMT
#288
On April 24 2009 00:12 Showtime! wrote:
Told you he was clean.

Mynock considering I never played with you. Arrogance is bliss. I have nothing to prove to anyone and I don't feel like posting every PM; action; and thought process I made on each decision. Everything I do is well mapped out in my head.

With that said, I didn't randomly pick players to be checked.

1. There is a reason why I ran for Mayor.
2. There is a reason why I believe it is in the Town's best interest that I be checked sooner rather than later.

ALL of this would be VOID if and ONLY if I'm the Godfather, which is fairly low.

I am more than capable of organizing a core, but you guys have to do your part as well.


You Never played with me? I don't have the time to check up all the games we've played in, but it's a few (Mafia 2 comes to mind, where we had like exactly the same situation with you vs me, lol). Every Mafia game u behave pretty erratically and in a confusing fashion, and this time it's no different.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 26 2009 14:14 GMT
#463
On April 26 2009 12:51 Qatol wrote:
I am trying to be VERY generous with the term "inactive" but have made another list. For god's sake people. Don't join this game if you can't say anything.

Here is the list of inactives:
Show nested quote +

13. Mandalor
19. Hyperbola
25. Camlito
26. Mynock
28. Versatile
29. 3 Lions
32. truthbringer
36. Rage
37. Motbob
39. Blue_Arrow
43. Amber[light]
44. Zapling
45. Aznvaliance
46. Laxercannon
50. scamp
51. goodwill
52. CompX
53. coolcrimefighter
54. YDG
55. Mista



People on the list who voted:
Show nested quote +

29. 3 Lions
32. truthbringer
46. Laxercannon
50. scamp
51. goodwill
53. coolcrimefighter
54. YDG




List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING:
Show nested quote +

13. Mandalor - "just posting to say I'm not inactive. I'll try to catch up later."
19. Hyperbola - "Hello my fellow townies. Just letting y'all know that I am active I've just been rather busy lately."
36. Rage - Tells me I am quick to make inactivity conclusions and theorizes about how the DTs got hit (2 posts total, both with very little content)
43. Amber[light] - explained that his finals start in a little over a week
44. Zapling - "vote me for mayor wooo ill be a good one" "we did last game -.-" (referring to a mayoral lynch of a mafioso)
50. scamp - Posted about his reasoning for voting, said he is too intimidated to post
51. goodwill - "cool, let's lynch quickstirker next" "I think our next lynch candidate should be one of the individuals in the detectives' circles, the chance of one family being able to hit 2 detectives together is one out of 3025."
53. coolcrimefighter - "well I've recently gotten addicted to altitude so thats why I've been inactive to make myself unshady here are some infoz about me
I am a D protoss
my name is coolcrimefighter
I am not shady" "indeed" "I think you guys are reading into my name too much"
55. Mista - “Still taking my own sweet time ..”



List of people I consider to be exceptions due to school:
Show nested quote +

7.Fishball - “I would not have access to TL from Thursday to Sunday (Back on Sunday).”
10. Ver - "Due to an intense finals period I won't be on until a brief bit friday, and then I will probably go do research and will be tied up until mon/tues."
24. Mikeymoo - "mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry" (monoxide posted this)
27. Mynock - "It's a bit difficult for me to keep up with it all ATM due to exam papers and lots of translation work to do (some other people mentioned, it's exams season for some of us now :o)"
47. Monoxide - “mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry”


You're a bit too quick to write me off as inactive there. Not only did I say I have very limited time to check this thread, I'm actually checking it . And I've posted, too.

Anyway, I'm not a fan of lynching on 1-2 days worth of clues (and I can't interpret clues anyway), but if I had to choose, my choice would fall on JeeJee, as explained by several people before me (behavioural pattern, Bockit-PMs, clues...).
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 26 2009 14:17 GMT
#464
On April 26 2009 22:36 mikeymoo wrote:
Regarding Monoxide, I can let the town know this (I know him irl, but we don't live in the same city anymore).

He was done finals a couple days ago, and had the whole of yesterday to post. I'm pretty sure he's reading the thread, as he keeps asking me over msn if I've read mafia or how the game is going etc etc.

In previous discussions I've had with him, he tells me how OP mafia is, and how easy it would be to win with red alignment. His mind games are very strong, so although he's not posting, he's both a liability and an asset (depending on his alignment, obviously).

If he checks TL, it's probably in the afternoon at his time, so in roughly 6 hours I'd imagine. I shot him a PM to tell him to get active and explain himself, essentially. I think I played one game with him and he never asked how the game was going or what not. He wasn't mafia that game.
I don't think the evidence is insurmountable, but it's something to keep in mind.

At this point in time, I'd lean towards behaviour analysis moreso than clue analysis.


Those are some good points, and cast quite a shadow over Monoxide. But obviously we first have to hear his version of the story.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 28 2009 14:39 GMT
#599
@ Mynock and Vivi57

What do you think of the alignment of some of the people pressing a double lynch for tomorrow? Do you find any of them to more likely be mafia than the rest? Which ones and why? This question can be answered by anyone who opposes the double lynch really, those were just the first two people in the voting thread who spoke out against it so I find their opinion more genuine than others who posted later who may just have been following.[/QUOTE]

Herd mentality mostly. If anything, I'd say they're not suspicious, because it's probably a green vanilla Townie trying to see some action and execute what powers he's got. That's my take on the matter tho, I could be wrong.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 29 2009 21:10 GMT
#631
On April 30 2009 06:04 Versatile wrote:
cremation. scatter my ashes into the Atlantic please.


I thought you'd want them scattered around Ace's house.

Anyway, Town might not be as inactive as it seems, people might just be waiting for Cob to get his things together...
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 01 2009 12:23 GMT
#758
Mafia list:

Vivi57
Qatol

GJ vigis! Rarely do I get the pleasure to play with such a foolish town.

On another note: I wanted to make a post about Ace and Qatol and whatnot, but before I knew it, it's the next day already. A bit too soon
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 02 2009 13:22 GMT
#796
On May 02 2009 18:49 Vivi57 wrote:
Meh, I've been so lazy about this game.

when I get the chance, I'm going to do some clue analysis and try to build on what we have. It's just so hard to get myself to do this knowing that last game, we didn't get a single mafia through clue analysis.

Show nested quote +
On May 01 2009 14:52 Incognito wrote:
Goodies from a DT.

"only too see an uncomprehensable phrase before the tv exploded" IS a clue.

The "clumsiness" clue does not point to Qatol.

Enjoy.

Did everyone miss this? The strongest link to Qatol isn't a clue towards him. Is the lynch based off vengence or just not caring? Is there actually anything to go on for this lynch?


Shhh! You're next in line, wait your turn.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 03 2009 09:47 GMT
#847
To Qatol's counter-accusations: I'm not even going to post much anything here. Once you're lynched, if you're Town, it's ff from me. If you're Mafia, we'll look into your supporters (Vivi57, JeeJee...) and will have something to go on. I think it's pretty obvious why I'm accusing you (doesn't matter if you're Town or Mafia, you hurt the Town), and your defense of accusing me instead won't change any of that.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 03 2009 23:20 GMT
#854
On May 04 2009 06:10 GoodWill wrote:
I feel we have not stressed enough of the fact that somebody betrayed 2 detectives on day2. The only real possibility I see is that they gave up their identity to Qatol, the Mayor.

Speaking of the Mayor, in this game, there's no way to positively validate the mayor's innocence. Yes he won't die from mafias until all his bodyguards are dead, but what good is that when he can be a mafia himself, and from what I have observed, this mayor in particular is now the no.1 suspect. What's worse is that he's using his 3 votes privilege to get help himself by voting the next lynch candidate, Quickstriker. Now, Quickstirker is also a strong suspect imo. And it won't surprise me if he turns out red because a) a mafia mayor is much more valuable than a mafia henchman b) Qatol can gain some trust this way c) it was already a two-way contest between Qatol and Quickstriker by the time Qatol first responded, it was his best bet to save himself.

Let's not forget all the other clues (especially behavior-wise, how he has never been able to nail a mafia and that Ace and Ver were highly suspicious of him). By lynching Qatol, we will have more information gained than from lynching any other suspects.


Wow a voice of reason in this Town!

Btw, adding all things up, Ver is either a townie disheartened with Town, or is Mafia, hence the no-posts. I'm suspecting him as Mafia tho.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 04 2009 16:23 GMT
#918
Nice coming out Ver, and looking at this Town it might not even be too soon, eh?

Yes, my playing style has changed. Ace said it too, you have to change your style, and I agree with that. I don't intend to keep the same play-style for all the future Mafia games either, and this here is a start.

But I simply refuse to play with this Town until Qatol is lynched. We're almost 100% sure he's Mafia, yet Town keeps getting swayed by his will. It's ridiculous. It really is. Caller killing Ace based upon Qatol's suggestion was crazy enough. You then go on and get swayed by him LITERALLY saving his neck by voting away from Qatol on QS. TF? And now Ver somehow accuses anybody voting for Qatol as potential Mafia? Oh, the Town will listen to that too, I'm sure.

There was NO logic in hitting Ace. I exchanged a couple PMs with Ace just before he died where I said I'm not really suspicious of him, but actually I was sure he's not Mafia (I know his style somewhat myself, and NO way did that warrant a hit). Lynching QS over Qatol was the icing on the cake. The only positive thing we can find from it, is to look at his hidden supporters (not OPEN supporters, but people who tried to sway the vote away from him WITHOUT directly supporting him in the process), but that's about it.

Maybe Malongo think he's not alone, but I think he's an optimist...

Here's a thing: there's a reason I was never lynched in any of the previous Mafia games. I don't post stupid stuff. I don't do stupid things. Even when I'm Mafia I just try to play upon logic. That won't change. I don't even read the clue part, I can't figure out those riddles anyway. I try to base everything on behavioural analysis, and logic. And if the Town isn't willing to do the same, I can't do much myself, right?

Again, I don't care if Qatol is Mafia or not (but I believe he is). If you think that's strange, you didn't understand my explanations above.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 05 2009 14:52 GMT
#954
On May 05 2009 13:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Also I think Malongo's protection list needs to be lengthened and updated.

This is a list of medic protection candidates.

  • Caller
  • RebirthOfLeGenD (yeah, self promotion, deal with it.)
  • Malongo
  • Ver
  • MikeyMoo (edited from Malongo's list)


From what I can remember, these are the only people who have been useful active and seemingly town aligned recently. If anyone else comes to mind I will quote and edit the list.


Don't anybody go protecting Ver u guys.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 05 2009 17:15 GMT
#957
On May 06 2009 01:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
ya dun protect ver, it will prevent mynocks hit from going through.

stupid town.

Like, duh!
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 05 2009 18:10 GMT
#959
On May 06 2009 02:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2009 02:15 Mynock wrote:
On May 06 2009 01:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
ya dun protect ver, it will prevent mynocks hit from going through.

stupid town.

Like, duh!



PSSST.....

VIGI HIT THIS MOTHER FUCKER!


Isn't it enough that I'll die tonight by a Mafia hit?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 06 2009 22:44 GMT
#975
On May 07 2009 06:46 motbob wrote:
For us to lynch Qatol, everyone's got to be unified.


Maybe that's why we should have lynched him 2 days ago? Check all those people who proposed leaving Qatol and his 3 votes for "later", and try to see if any of the clues match up with them.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 06 2009 22:48 GMT
#977
Will a Vigi finally hit Ver here? Goddamit.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 06 2009 23:04 GMT
#980
Here, some clue analysis:

He struggled to raise his head, only to see a flash of colour


LucasWoJ:
- white, blue, red, red, yellow, green, purple, brown, black, colors!

Caller:
[image loading]

t_co:
[image loading]


I believe Caller's is pretty weak, I also believe his Vigi story.

LucasWoJ seems the most fishy. He provided lots of stuff in his profile, and if I was in BC's place, I'd choose one and make it damn obvious.
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
May 06 2009 23:07 GMT
#981
Also, don't leave out Tricode when contemplating all the "3" clues.

Btw, it's a pretty bad sign if you see me clue-analyzing. Means Town is in shit.
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