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So after reading a suggestion in the TLPD feedback thread (from geno, thanks guy), I've been thinking about making a page which would gather all the major "misc stats" data in one place. Number of games total, number of games per matchup, matchup all-time record, player with most individual wins, number of starleague wins per race, etc etc. Doing so however, I realized there was just way too many potentially interesting statistics to put in one single page.
That's when I had the idea of a forum thread. You guys ask for a stat, and I'll query the database and fetch it ASAP (mostly during weekends). I'll gather all of the stat requests/answers in the first post. For evolving stats (like matchup records and stuff), I'll add a date so you can know when the numbers have last been updated. Note that I can't necessarily get just anything from the database, especially stuff TLPD doesn't handle yet, like team stats.
TLPD will eventually contain a page with the most relevant statistics. I'd be very interested to know which ones you guys consider the most interesting to have at hand all the time. Right now I'm still unsure (except for a few).
This thread will always be open for specific requests, though!
I'll start off with a bunch of common statistics:
Last updated: Sunday Nov. 23
- Number of games:
- 10440 games in total (including 3543 VODs)
- 2867 TvZs (including 817 VODs)
- 1837 ZvPs (including 580 VODs)
- 2192 PvTs (including 864 VODs)
- 1370 TvTs (including 514 VODs)
- 1163 ZvZs (including 221 VODs)
- 674 PvPs (including 298 VODs)
- Matchup all-time records:
- TvZ: 1544-1323 (53.85%)
- ZvP: 982-855 (53.46%)
- PvT: 1120-1072 (51.09%)
- League statistics:
- Terran: 49 golds, including 11 OSLs and 9 MSLs/KPGA Tours
- Zerg: 35 golds, including 6 OSLs and 6 MSLs/KPGA Tours
- Protoss: 18 golds, including 8 OSLs and 4 MSLs/KPGA Tours
+ Show Spoiler [Longest win/loss streaks] +
+ Show Spoiler [Bisu's effect in PvZ] + Pre-Bisu-vs-Savior ZvP: 682-547 (55.49%) Post-Bisu-vs-Savior ZvP: 300-308 (49.34%)
Revolution much?
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Hungary11232 Posts
Longest win streak (overall) Longest loss streak (overall) Longest streaks according to matchups.
top5 on all of those.
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You are too awesome PoP. I'll have to come up with some more interesting stats now with this thread version
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Awesome!! Only request I can really think of would be statistics confined to particular years or seasons etc. example: terran/zerg/protoss win rates for a particular league or timeframe.
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United States40776 Posts
I'm confused by where all the extra medals are going from if not starleagues. Even with things like the GSI and GSL that doesn't account for it all. Are you counting WCG, Blizzcon, WWI etc too?
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On November 23 2008 21:10 Kwark wrote: I'm confused by where all the extra medals are going from if not starleagues. Even with things like the GSI and GSL that doesn't account for it all. Are you counting WCG, Blizzcon, WWI etc too?
No, only korean professional tournaments, including WCG qualifications, special events like Shinhan Masters, ODTs (previous ones had winners), etc. But it might not make too much sense? Also I should probably exclude special events.
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On November 23 2008 21:10 Kwark wrote: I'm confused by where all the extra medals are going from if not starleagues. Even with things like the GSI and GSL that doesn't account for it all. Are you counting WCG, Blizzcon, WWI etc too? I'm pretty sure OSC is one at least (Much's only medal for instance) which would count for some of them. Probably special tourneys and invitationals too (KeSPA sanctioned stuff).
edit: That's pretty interesting though that Zerg has managed to get nearly twice as many golds as Protoss total, but has the exact same number of starleague golds.
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Not all that related, but I would really like to see 2v2 stats in player profiles.
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# Matchup all-time records:
* TvZ: 1557-1348 (53.6%)
* ZvP: 1019-890 (53.38%)
* PvT: 1128-1082 (51.04%)
This is really a credit to the awesome racial balance of professional SC. I can't believe it's so close!
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On November 23 2008 21:21 Burre wrote:
# Matchup all-time records:
* TvZ: 1557-1348 (53.6%)
* ZvP: 1019-890 (53.38%)
* PvT: 1128-1082 (51.04%)
This is really a credit to the awesome racial balance of professional SC. I can't believe it's so close!
Actually I just updated them because there was a glitch. Stats are fixed now (not that much different though).
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On November 23 2008 21:21 Burre wrote:
# Matchup all-time records:
* TvZ: 1557-1348 (53.6%)
* ZvP: 1019-890 (53.38%)
* PvT: 1128-1082 (51.04%)
This is really a credit to the awesome racial balance of professional SC. I can't believe it's so close!
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Funny that the small statistical advantages all line up with the classic t > z > p > t matchup theory too. But yeah, not by much, which is not only a credit to the game balance but also the mappers.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Biggest rivalry? i.e Players with the most games head to head against each other? And maybe records Team vs Team like all games that SKT players have played against KTF players (Proleague / All Leagues).
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What I'd really like to see would be a feature/API where we can enter an arbitrary SQL select query ourselves (preferably by a query string added to the url to make it more programmatically accessible), and see the results. Such a thing is obviously possible but there may be reasons why it's not safe/practical.
edit: We'd also have to know the database schema.
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Edit: I moved it to the appropriate thread
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Wow didn't realize Best had a 16-0 win streak in PvP.
Also massive T_T on the Boxer loss streak.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Most played map Most balanced map (with over X games, I'm not sure how many) Most unbalanced (imbalanced? same as above, should probably have some kind of significant sample size). Maybe the same thing but by matchup? PvZ stats pre 2006 and PvZ stats post 2006 would be interesting (I think professional tosses really stepped up their PvZ around that time).
Sweet thread btw :D
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MU Stats per year and per season. Great thread, thanks for all the great work Pop.
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On November 24 2008 00:36 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2008 20:53 Aesop wrote: Longest win streak (overall) Longest loss streak (overall) Longest streaks according to matchups.
top5 on all of those. Longest win streak: GoRush (16-0). Longest loss streak: JinNam (0-16). Longest TvT win streak: Midas & NaDa & Canata (10-0). Longest TvT loss streak: BoxeR & Justin & JoyO (0-8). Longest TvZ win streak: iloveoov (27-0). Longest TvZ loss streak: Hery (0-11). Longest TvP win streak: Flash (12-0). Longest TvP loss streak: UpMagiC (0-10). Longest ZvT win streak: YellOw & Jaedong (12-0). Longest ZvT loss streak: Clon & TheWinD & JinNam (0-11). Longest ZvZ win streak: Jaedong (12-0). Longest ZvZ loss streak: JinNam (0-9). Longest ZvP win streak: sAviOr (11-0). Longest ZvP loss streak: Shark (0-7). Longest PvT win streak: Kingdom & Stork (12-0). Longest PvT loss streak: SangHo (0-11). Longest PvZ win streak: JangBi (10-0). Longest PvZ loss streak: TerAtO & fOru & RainBOw (0-9). Longest PvP win streak: BeSt (16-0). Longest PvP loss streak: Zeus (0-10).
I dont see anyone touching iloveoov's TvZ streak. Ever.
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