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On November 24 2008 01:42 PoP wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2008 00:53 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Most played map
Most balanced map (with over X games, I'm not sure how many)
Most unbalanced (imbalanced? same as above, should probably have some kind of significant sample size).
Maybe the same thing but by matchup?
Not doing these ones because we have something a lot better in the making. 
I'm really curious, so I hope you guys finish it soon :D
In the meantime, here's something I did a couple weeks ago. I just based it off of proleage matches (i.e. if there's a ton more TvT on Othello than any other MU, it's probably because the coaches know that sending another race against the other teams T will start the game off with a disadvantage).
Balanced
+ Show Spoiler +Sin Peaks of Beakdu
Tau Cross
Too New To Tell
+ Show Spoiler +Neo Requiem
Destination
Chupung-Ryeong
Medusa
T-Favored
+ Show Spoiler +Colosseum
Geometry
Harmony
Monty Hall
Othello
Python
Un'Goro Crater
Wuthering Heights
Z-Favored
+ Show Spoiler +Andromeda
Raid-Assault
Un'Goro Crater
P-Favored
+ Show Spoiler +Andromeda
Baekmagoji
Blue Storm
Colosseum
Katrina
Monty Hall
Nemesis
Too Old for me to Care
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BONUS
Standard-ish 2v2
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Wierd 2v2
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DMZ
Hunters
Hwangsanbul
Seongangil
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*Sob* for zergs. KeSPA needs to make maps at least a little balanced for zergs, it's more exciting for everyone.
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United States4991 Posts
PoP: I thought Joyo played PvT instead of TvT [TvZ TvP PvT]? Like in the epic Paradoxx game with Boxer, he was P. Therefore he wouldn't be included in longest TvT loss streak.
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Sweden33723 Posts
On November 24 2008 09:31 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I second FA's nomination - PvZ balance before and then after Bisu v. Savior GOMTV MSL finals.
Nah, PoP already answered that (page 2 somewhere), but I actually feel like the quality of pro-players PvZ started going up around 2006. Of course, Savior was an absolute terror so that probably didn't help the stats..
I forget which zerg pro it was, but around that time someone said in an interview that protoss players today felt a lot more solid than they used to.
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Team winning streaks
Team losing streaks
Player history in terms of teams
Team lineups from each team league season (This might be hard)
Team Head 2 Head
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Nice Thread!
I always knew T>Z was the most imbalanced matchup. 
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how often does player with higher ELO beat player with lower ELO? would be a way to show how useful ELO is to evaluate player skill, but maybe this info is already contained/defined in elo score...?
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On November 24 2008 14:42 mjh wrote:
how often does player with higher ELO beat player with lower ELO? would be a way to show how useful ELO is to evaluate player skill, but maybe this info is already contained/defined in elo score...?
It is - you can use the difference between ratings to compute the probability that either player will win. For example, a 200 point advantage indicates an approximately 75% chance of winning, while a 400 point advantage indicates about an approximately 90% chance of winning.
The formula can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating#Mathematical_details
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wow zvp really got way more balanced after 2006 nice to know.
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On November 24 2008 10:18 Love.Zelduck wrote:Wierd 2v2 + Show Spoiler +Chariots of Fire
DMZ
Hunters
Hwangsanbul
Seongangil
I liked Seongangil. I think its the best 2v2 map in recent history.
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United States2186 Posts
Bo3/5 stats for the top players, as well as Ace match records, would be very nice to know if you have the time.
Much thanks, very interesting stuff!
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Hey POP, just to let you know (in case it's not you changing it), the individual ranking for the proleague is down at TLPD...
EDIT: nm, it's back!
+ Show Spoiler [Current standings] +And Calm is back on top! Whoa!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 24 2008 10:33 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2008 09:31 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I second FA's nomination - PvZ balance before and then after Bisu v. Savior GOMTV MSL finals. Nah, PoP already answered that (page 2 somewhere), but I actually feel like the quality of pro-players PvZ started going up around 2006. Of course, Savior was an absolute terror so that probably didn't help the stats.. I forget which zerg pro it was, but around that time someone said in an interview that protoss players today felt a lot more solid than they used to. I beleive the player in question is the legendary JJu
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Protoss is so dominant now that after terran, protoss has the most gold medals. Interesting stats.
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this is so great, tlpd is getting better. what about "most games won under/over 5/40 minutes etc." maybe that requires too much work. anyways this kicks ass.
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Wow, Boxer and Justin... together ... in a category. *Head explodes*
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longest games in every MU, is that possbile?
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On November 23 2008 21:21 Burre wrote:
# Matchup all-time records:
* TvZ: 1557-1348 (53.6%)
* ZvP: 1019-890 (53.38%)
* PvT: 1128-1082 (51.04%)
This is really a credit to the awesome racial balance of professional SC. I can't believe it's so close!
Well I'm sure map balancing play's an even more important role. Especially during proleague when team's had to decide what race to send out on a specific map. Of course every race has to play now do to the rule changes.
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Would be cool to be able to list players by their birth date 
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EPT
