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Love.Zelduck
Profile Joined February 2008
United States170 Posts
November 24 2008 01:18 GMT
#61
On November 24 2008 01:42 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2008 00:53 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Most played map
Most balanced map (with over X games, I'm not sure how many)
Most unbalanced (imbalanced? same as above, should probably have some kind of significant sample size).
Maybe the same thing but by matchup?


Not doing these ones because we have something a lot better in the making.


I'm really curious, so I hope you guys finish it soon :D

In the meantime, here's something I did a couple weeks ago. I just based it off of proleage matches (i.e. if there's a ton more TvT on Othello than any other MU, it's probably because the coaches know that sending another race against the other teams T will start the game off with a disadvantage).

Balanced

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Sin Peaks of Beakdu
Tau Cross


Too New To Tell

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Neo Requiem
Destination
Chupung-Ryeong
Medusa


T-Favored

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Colosseum
Geometry
Harmony
Monty Hall
Othello
Python
Un'Goro Crater
Wuthering Heights


Z-Favored

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Andromeda
Raid-Assault
Un'Goro Crater


P-Favored

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Andromeda
Baekmagoji
Blue Storm
Colosseum
Katrina
Monty Hall
Nemesis


Too Old for me to Care

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Everything Else


BONUS

Standard-ish 2v2

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Hannibal
Vampire


Wierd 2v2

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Chariots of Fire
DMZ
Hunters
Hwangsanbul
Seongangil
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 24 2008 01:20 GMT
#62
*Sob* for zergs. KeSPA needs to make maps at least a little balanced for zergs, it's more exciting for everyone.
Jaedong
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
November 24 2008 01:21 GMT
#63
PoP: I thought Joyo played PvT instead of TvT [TvZ TvP PvT]? Like in the epic Paradoxx game with Boxer, he was P. Therefore he wouldn't be included in longest TvT loss streak.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 24 2008 01:33 GMT
#64
On November 24 2008 09:31 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I second FA's nomination - PvZ balance before and then after Bisu v. Savior GOMTV MSL finals.

Nah, PoP already answered that (page 2 somewhere), but I actually feel like the quality of pro-players PvZ started going up around 2006. Of course, Savior was an absolute terror so that probably didn't help the stats..

I forget which zerg pro it was, but around that time someone said in an interview that protoss players today felt a lot more solid than they used to.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
WorldComunist8
Profile Joined November 2008
United States5 Posts
November 24 2008 02:59 GMT
#65
Team winning streaks
Team losing streaks
Player history in terms of teams
Team lineups from each team league season (This might be hard)
Team Head 2 Head
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
November 24 2008 05:32 GMT
#66
Nice Thread!

I always knew T>Z was the most imbalanced matchup.
#1 Terran hater
mjh
Profile Joined November 2007
United States133 Posts
November 24 2008 05:42 GMT
#67
how often does player with higher ELO beat player with lower ELO? would be a way to show how useful ELO is to evaluate player skill, but maybe this info is already contained/defined in elo score...?
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2306 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-24 06:24:20
November 24 2008 06:22 GMT
#68
On November 24 2008 14:42 mjh wrote:
how often does player with higher ELO beat player with lower ELO? would be a way to show how useful ELO is to evaluate player skill, but maybe this info is already contained/defined in elo score...?

It is - you can use the difference between ratings to compute the probability that either player will win. For example, a 200 point advantage indicates an approximately 75% chance of winning, while a 400 point advantage indicates about an approximately 90% chance of winning.

The formula can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating#Mathematical_details
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
November 24 2008 06:47 GMT
#69
wow zvp really got way more balanced after 2006 nice to know.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
November 24 2008 07:29 GMT
#70
On November 24 2008 10:18 Love.Zelduck wrote:
Wierd 2v2

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Chariots of Fire
DMZ
Hunters
Hwangsanbul
Seongangil

I liked Seongangil. I think its the best 2v2 map in recent history.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 24 2008 07:42 GMT
#71
Bo3/5 stats for the top players, as well as Ace match records, would be very nice to know if you have the time.

Much thanks, very interesting stuff!
Liquipedia
mtmf
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Brazil420 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-24 20:00:13
November 24 2008 15:46 GMT
#72
Hey POP, just to let you know (in case it's not you changing it), the individual ranking for the proleague is down at TLPD...

EDIT: nm, it's back!
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And Calm is back on top! Whoa!
(–_–)
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 24 2008 15:54 GMT
#73
On November 24 2008 10:33 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2008 09:31 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I second FA's nomination - PvZ balance before and then after Bisu v. Savior GOMTV MSL finals.

Nah, PoP already answered that (page 2 somewhere), but I actually feel like the quality of pro-players PvZ started going up around 2006. Of course, Savior was an absolute terror so that probably didn't help the stats..

I forget which zerg pro it was, but around that time someone said in an interview that protoss players today felt a lot more solid than they used to.
I beleive the player in question is the legendary JJu
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
November 24 2008 16:40 GMT
#74
awesome thread
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
AngelOfDeath
Profile Joined October 2008
United States23 Posts
November 25 2008 03:17 GMT
#75
Protoss is so dominant now that after terran, protoss has the most gold medals. Interesting stats.
diggurd
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Norway346 Posts
November 25 2008 03:39 GMT
#76
this is so great, tlpd is getting better. what about "most games won under/over 5/40 minutes etc." maybe that requires too much work. anyways this kicks ass.
the interesting thing about this quote is that youll only understand whats interesting when youre done reading it. ǝɯıʇ ɹn ƃuıʇsɐʍ n ǝɹɐ ʎɥʍ
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
November 25 2008 03:54 GMT
#77
Wow, Boxer and Justin... together ... in a category. *Head explodes*
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 25 2008 13:11 GMT
#78
longest games in every MU, is that possbile?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
November 26 2008 07:34 GMT
#79
On November 23 2008 21:21 Burre wrote:

# Matchup all-time records:

* TvZ: 1557-1348 (53.6%)

* ZvP: 1019-890 (53.38%)

* PvT: 1128-1082 (51.04%)

This is really a credit to the awesome racial balance of professional SC. I can't believe it's so close!


Well I'm sure map balancing play's an even more important role. Especially during proleague when team's had to decide what race to send out on a specific map. Of course every race has to play now do to the rule changes.
"You're a pathetic, jerk, loser, and I wouldn't kiss you if I had brain cancer and your lips were the cure" LOOOOL
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
November 26 2008 11:03 GMT
#80
Would be cool to be able to list players by their birth date
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