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My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi
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On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all. k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.
On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t.
On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here. Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die.
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On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all. k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch. On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t. On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here. Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die. about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else. He´s actively creating more useless posts beside his own by making others go along with his games and riddles.
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On July 07 2014 23:55 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all. k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch. On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t. On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here. Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die. about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else. I'm interested into this too. Prpl, what do you think of Toad's stuff so far? I'd have expected you to fight back in some way by now. I'm actively withholding judgement on Toades. My first reaction was to ignore my read on Koshi and chainsaw Toades, but that would have been only based on him voting for prplhz. That´s not necessarily a scum trait, just reading prplhz wrong.
On July 07 2014 23:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:43 iamperfection wrote:On July 07 2014 23:42 IAmRobik wrote:
If IAmP gets mislynched this game, I'm going to flame each and every one of you in post game. He's the broiest bro of all bros ive only been mislynched once. it doesn't happen ##vote: iamperfectionBased on the fact it won't happen that we mislynch iamp. Koshi, you have to own up on your vote for iamperfection and post it in the voting thread, it doesn´t count otherwise.
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On July 08 2014 00:11 Koshi wrote:
I like that case Toad. Everytime these scummers enter the thread with a metaread on why somebody is town. I don't get why they do that.
##unvote
##vote: Forumite lol, you are voting for me because you think I´m using a tactic that you admit doesn´t make sense. Die scum!
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On July 08 2014 00:14 prplhz wrote:
@Forumite Explain your meta read on me that makes you 99% sure. I have a long career of mislynching you after a weak scumread leads me to tunnel and ruin it for town. Since then I interpret weak scumreads on you as strong signs of townieness.
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I think I did this in an earlier game, stating that I have a townread on prplhz for the exact same reason. It ended up disrupting town discussion for most of D1. I should probably stop doing this. Anyway I know I'm shitty at reading anything prplhz does so to make it simple for myself I just won´t vote for him without a VERY good reason.
On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever.
Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi.
Toades, did you have any questions for me?
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On July 08 2014 03:17 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 03:14 batsnacks wrote:On July 08 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 03:09 batsnacks wrote:
Robik was a lot more pissed off last game when someone (me) called him mafia early. He didn't say stuff like "HEE HAW HEE HAW," "DAFUQ," "bad bad bad," etc. like he is right now. Also, this statement is like the biggest catch 22. Didn't you call me mafia that game because I was getting upset and angry like I did in Order, where I was also getting super upset/agitated and angry. You can't have it both ways doofus. Order was the game I was talking about I don't think there was another game? Oh, it wasn't you. Anyway, I really don't like being called scum incorrectly. Any focus towards me is bad for town because that means we are focusing on a towny instead of focusing on scum This doesn´t make you town, this just makes it easy for you APPEAR town. I know how frustrating it is to mess up as town, act scummy and then get mislynched. When you say that you hate being called scum then it reads to me like you want to tap into that to make it look like you are town. And as some have allready stated, you do this even when you are scum, so why should this make us think you are town? You talk about this a lot, basically threatening with OMGUS for anyone doubting you.
On July 08 2014 03:44 Corazon wrote:Forumite, I know I am not Toad but I hope you will answer me anyways  You said this a bit earlier: Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 23:55 Forumite wrote:On July 07 2014 23:52 iamperfection wrote:On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all. k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch. On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t. On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here. Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die. about 75% of the posts have been useless including mine why pick koshi over anyone else. He´s actively creating more useless posts beside his own by making others go along with his games and riddles. Do you still feel like this is true and do you feel that Koshi's posts have been the most useless so far? (Because I have a different opinion as stated earlier). On his earlier posts, I have changed my mind. I understand that the early game can be dull and those posts at least gets things going. I still lean heavily towards scum on Koshi, he drew those riddle posts for a few too many pages and has since done a few things that I feel are off when pushing me.
On July 08 2014 03:44 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 03:40 Forumite wrote:
I think I did this in an earlier game, stating that I have a townread on prplhz for the exact same reason. It ended up disrupting town discussion for most of D1. I should probably stop doing this. Anyway I know I'm shitty at reading anything prplhz does so to make it simple for myself I just won´t vote for him without a VERY good reason.
On Toades, I don´t know. It´s OMGUS for voting me and the opposite for (nearly) dropping the case a few hours later. Him pushing for me makes it hard for me to be objective about his play. Others seem to think it makes him slightly townie, whatever.
Koshi, I still think he´s scummy, even more than the usual OMGUS for pushing me. His case on me felt like he waited to hitch on to Toades case, adding his own complex reasonings to explain why scum would do what I did, basically WIFOM. He also accused me of calling Toades scum, which I´m fairly sure I never did. I´m leaving my vote on Koshi.
Toades, did you have any questions for me? Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 00:06 Toadesstern wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi What kind of reaction did you expect from me and why did you put this in there? 1) You tell me prplhz is like 99% confirmed town to you based on a metaread that I apparently either don't agree with or haven't picked up on yet 2) You state that you have a 99% confirmed town read on him and tell me about it 3) You are not able to or do not wish to explain said read on prplhz and thus leave it as it is So what's the point here? Do you actually want me to just go "oooh... right... I haven't got a read on you but if you say prplhz is 99% town without telling me why I'll just drop that and trust you"? If that's not the thing you want to achieve with that oneliner, why else mind putting it there? Doesn't seem like prplhz is getting all that much votes right now while at the same time Vivax apparently is going nuts about me. Why don't [didn't] you just outline this a bit more and actually try to convince me that I'm wrong on prplhz? If you're town it's certainly not in your best interest to have townies trying to lynch other townies and you SHOULD try to do something about it, don't you think?On July 07 2014 23:51 Forumite wrote:On July 07 2014 23:38 prplhz wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi don't really have any reads yet, a few tentative town reads is all. k, I don´t care about townreads unless we´re close to the lynch.On July 07 2014 23:37 IAmRobik wrote:
iamp, how do we feel about forumite's first post. Kinda resembles Koshi's with a tad more content. But the content smells bullshitty. I lean town nevertheless even though I'm not certain I agree with any of the conclusions at this moment What conclusions? My read on Koshi? My read on prplhz? My thoughts on lynching early or risk a rushed lynch or a no lynch? Do you enjoy the voting frenzy 5 minutes before deadline followed by yet another town lynch, because I don´t. On July 07 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote:On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi The fact you say I am ruining the thread hurts me more than you voting me. I am the entertainment value here. Your empty posts fill the thread and make it harder to read the thread and see posts of real value. It´s spamming and anti-town, which makes you scum, so you have to die. ehehe the green part is what I'd like to hear more about I can´t read prplhz so putting prplhz down as confirmed town makes it easier for me but it would never convince anyone else. My reaction to your posts was mostly because I also don´t like anyone pushing someone I´ve marked down as a townie, no matter what for. I decided to not make a fake defence of prplhz, chainsaw defend or draw it out any longer because I remembered what happened last time. I don´t think I was mislynched that game but I wasted a lot of towns time D1. This time I just wasted a few hours =/
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Anyone who has played with Robik and Koshi, is this their normal playstyle?
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On July 08 2014 05:40 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 05:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:25 ExO_ wrote:On July 08 2014 05:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:14 ExO_ wrote:
These day 1 reads are always so full of bullshit, its almost funny. Yeah, my reads d1 arent always good. It happens. But why shouldn't we be reading you as mafia? You've posted 1 thing the entire game. I hate posting massive reads on day 1, because I think they're largely baseless and fueled by past games and ego. I'd rather wait until after day 1 voting so I'll have some actual basis by which to evaluate people. This is consistent with my town play in both Order and World Cup (though I guess that isn't over so it can't be confirmed yet). Not posting a lot on the first day doesn't make me scummy at all. Calling me mafia is just an attempt to get me to read other people, which I won't do until after day 1. But that's so boring. Basically you are saying "Here. I'm not going to give any reads at all on day 1, let everyone else do the work, while I just sit back, and place a vote by sheeping my mafia partner or if you are town, the towniest person in the game)" That shit don't fly with me. It might be boring, but it's what I prefer. Instead of bullshitting like some people, I'm not going to stir up shit on day 1, that'll be based on nothing. It's silly and doesn't help town. There are some people here who are able to read players day 1, I'm not one of them. So while you may not like it, it's hardly indicative of my alignment, and as I said is consistent with my town player in the other mafia games I've played here on TL. If that's your basis for a scum read on me, then I think perhaps you may consider that you aren't one of the people that can read and find mafia on day 1.
Do you have any insight on the game so far?
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On July 08 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Re: Forumite, I didn't like the reasons he said he was suspicious of Koshi - initially it was because of his fluffy riddle posts at the beginning, and he further went on to say that he "hitched onto" Toad's case on Forumite adding his own "complex reasoning" or whatever. So ultimately that's where his vote is.
And his read on prplhz...like, at first he said like "99% sure" and has described him as confirmed town. And the reasoning he gave is pretty bad - but not one I can really argue with because it's based on a personal metric that may or may not be true.
I want to hear others' thoughts on Forumite. I think ultimately I'd rather wait on him, but I might be convinced to lynch him. Me calling prplhz 99% townie was another way of saying that I´m never considering him for a lynch, I explained that later. Now Toades tunnels because he didn´t get the answer he wanted, honesty wasn´t good enough. Koshi made a convoluted reasoning why I posted what I posted which was basically WIFOM. I´d find it if his filter wasn´t so bloated. Then sloosh sheeps to fake activity and BM votes without reading my posts. Alakaslam sheeps Toades but this one I can at least understand, he found someone he thinks is town and votes the same way.
Bill Murray, you´ve allready voted for me so post it in the thread. No stealth-votes!
My vote stays on Koshi because his case on me is shit. I don´t like Robik either but could be personal because he´s bad mannered. Robiks preemptive OMGUS looks like a good scum move, but I don´t know anything about either Robik, this might be his normal playstyle.
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On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.
can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:Heyo. I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked?
You are making a good case for a SloOsh lynch.
Also, complex case means Town? So that´s why you did that convoluted mess of an accusation against me earlier? You make a complex case (based on nothing) and then state that complex cases are a town tell...
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On July 08 2014 19:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 19:14 Forumite wrote:On July 08 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 18:46 prplhz wrote:
i didn't defend forumite early on, i just said that iamp and robik shouldn't jump to conclusion when there could be a good meta read that he just didn't inform the thread of. not providing a reason for your reads isn't scummy, it's not having a reason for them that's scummy.
can you go more into detail with what you like about slOosh' case on forumite? I like the "Stop. Think" part of the case because it makes the case very sheepable and very understandable. On July 08 2014 06:01 slOosh wrote:Heyo. I am not liking the Forumite. Ok are you ready for this? On July 07 2014 23:34 Forumite wrote:
My metaread says that prplhz 99% confirmed town. Toades, please unvote prplhz, he´s town.
prplhz, I´d like to know your early reads.
I´d rather lynch within 24hrs than 5 minutes before deadline. Rushed lynches suck and never end well. No, I don´t care if scum will hammer early and sway the lynch. If they are reckless then they draw attention to themselves, which is good for us. So start voting.
Koshi spamming, ruining the thread and delaying the lynch, he´s scum or third party and needs to die.
##Vote: Koshi He meta reads prplhz, then asks prplhz for his reads. Stop. Think. Why do you ask people for reads? You do it because either you want to get a better read on them, or you think they are town and you value their reads. At 99% town, he isn't doing it for the first reason, so it must be the second. But at this point the game just started, and most of the posts were "hahaha jokez" posts, so clearly nothing meaningful to be gleaned off here. Conclusion: Forumite has a scummy mindset of "asking people for reads looks like activity" but when he does it it looks totally out of place. Why did ask Forumite prplhz his reads? This is a very good question. SlOosh also believes in this sentence showing a scummy mindset in Forumite. You are trowing away SloOsh his argument that this one sentence makes Forumite scum but have you ever seen a scummer make a case showing off such dept in thought? Remember that this is SloOsh his first post, so one (Robik) could argue that SlOosh is being scum tryharding. You think so as well? SloOsh reading that one sentence and making an understandable/sheepable case around that one sentence makes me respect SlOosh his scumhunting abilities. Or his scum playing abilities. Why would I want to lynch somebody who shows me that he can make a case around somebody making 1 bad sentence? Out of fear he plays atypical godly scum? I will pass on that. I ask prplhz for reads because I want to know what he thinks, why did you think I asked? Why did you want to know what he thinks? Do you respect his early reads so much that you want to sheep him? Why not ask iamp what he was thinking? I´m not voting for prplhz but that doesn´t mean I don´t care what he thinks. No, prplhz isn´t a mafia god who can find scum from their first posts (unlike SloOsh, zomg!), who cares? Any insight is valuable.
iamperfection? Why should I ask him over prplhz? Seriously, why? I don´t understand why you would ask me something like that.
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Neutral towards me? I asked prplhz with my first post, right after saying he´s town. I had had absolutely no interaction with iamperfection and had only read what he had said in the thread. iamp hadn´t talked to me, I hadn´t talked to him, there is absolutely no reason why I should ask him ANYTHING. I mentioned prplhz and Toades had voted prplhz, that´s why I talked to them.
On July 08 2014 19:57 Koshi wrote:New question:
You said you are pretty good at finding valuable posts and analysing them. However, your reads this game have been rather lackluster. Are you too annoyed by me scumreading you to play the game optimally? Am I good at finding valuable posts and analysing? No, I don´t think so, I´m decent at random pressure and seeing patterns and sometimes I get a good case going, but that was two years ago, I´m probably crap by now. I had a decent start of the game, right?
Final part of the question, first it´s not your case, you are sheeping Toades. The only thing you contributed is WIFOM that looks good enough for town to let it slip by. And of course I´m having trouble focusing on scum, I spent last evening making myself look scummy and then defending myself, and now a few more have voted during the night. It´s far from a lynch but it´s a distraction.
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On July 08 2014 00:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 00:34 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 00:30 Koshi wrote:On July 08 2014 00:27 Toadesstern wrote:
waitwaitwait. That reasoning is stupid as hell but people use it. I do the same whenever I'm dealing with VE and it works wonders. No problem there and towniepoints for not being afraid to mention something that ridiculous lol.
However, this "strategy" is so odd that he shouldn't be expecting other people to use it as well. He's basicly stating that prplhz is town because he looks slightly scummy. If anything the guy should be gushing over me about how I'm a god at mafia for seeing that but STILL being wrong nonetheless according to him. Right? Yes, he did consider chainsawing you for reading prplhz as scum while he read prplhz as scum. The plot thickings *dum dum dum* exactly. At the same time he has the balls to outright state that for no reason whatsoever. Why would mafia say they were considering to chainsaw me. If this was someone like Marv or me who literally don't give a shit about how weak we post and do it on a regular basis to look like we're ballsy townies fine but this little detail doesn't fit in the picture of forumite being Mafia so far. That's what I meant with, he's not afraid of posting something that ridiculous (for both things). I'm actually fine with forumite for now lol Nha bro, that's not how it works. Mafia doesn't think about why they actually read people. They think about covering themselves if they get called out. Scum doesn't connect the "I can justify reading prplhz for town because my history with him" with "this guy is town because he scumreaded prplhz and I also do that as town". I am not saying it is impossible for scum to do it, but scum is more likely to slip in their reasoning doing these kinda connect reads. mafia more likely thinks "ok, prplhz is town and I can defend him with this meta reason x from past games, I could call the guy who is putting pressure on prplhz scum because he is wrong but let's go after this guy who is posting total nonsense, nobody will think I am off base for calling this guy out, he clearly is doing nothing". You should be proud of your case. It actually shows mafia mindset. This is the post you used to justify sheeping Toades. It´s WIFOM and lies. I never pushed Toades, I knew me not voting for prplhz doesn´t make Toades scum. I said I considered chainsawing him to fit in with my "read" on prplhz, but knowing that prplhz wasn´t really confirmed town to anyone else attacking Toades would have been a stupid thing to do. It´s still taken up as a reason why I´m scummy. Can´t you people read?
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Not sure anymore if you are scum, Koshi, but your case still sucks
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I want layabout and Tehpoofter to die or get their game going
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On July 08 2014 21:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 21:28 Forumite wrote:
I want layabout and Tehpoofter to die or get their game going And Hiro. But there's not much point in talking about them since you either say you wanna plynch them or you wait for a vig and don't talk about them, so get your decisions straight or talk about people who posted something. And Hiro, forgot about him.
On July 08 2014 22:06 HaruRH wrote:
I'm feeling a lot better today, so ill try to catch up and post my thoughts later. Who are you?
On July 08 2014 21:36 Vivax wrote:
Btw Forum, why do you townread Koshi I don't understand it.
You were super duper scum on him cause he posted riddles, now he's saying you asking prpl for reads didn't make much sense.
If I were to imagine myself in your position as hypothetical townie, I'd rather be suspicious about the guy bitching about my questions that I feel were legitimate than the guy posting riddles in the first pages of the game. Quite a bit of my read on Koshi and Rubik was based on what I felt was anti-town behavior, but noone else has reacted to it so I assume this is how they usually play. Koshis case is bad but anyone can make bad cases. I still think both Koshi and Rubik are scummy, especially Rubik. Preemptive OMGUS is anti-town and seems like a great scum tactic.
On July 08 2014 21:55 yamato77 wrote:
iamp, redirect your attention to obiwan
he's the lynch today Why?
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On July 08 2014 22:41 Vivax wrote:Then there's this post by Toad which is in my opinion too hyperbole, he's saying Cora is backtracking from all his reads at the same time, when I found his Robik scumread to be clear enough and I don't see him backtracking from it, I see him saying that it's a read early in the game and that it might change, but still his top scumread. Overall I'm not trusting Toad cause he gives me the feeling he's pushing people before figuring them out, and there are multiple instances where he feels the need to emphasize he's being so townie, and how he goes guns blazing on everyone. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote:
You have to explain to me how Cora weighing in different aspects of somebody being town or scum makes him scum.
I do that all the time too.
It's like you're expecting him to lock a target, and only bring arguments of one kind (guilty or innocent).
That's not how you find mafia, that's how you get somebody lynched.
I would portray you as almost polar opposites cause while he's considerate about the reads he gives and shows some doubts, you're playing the "lock-on and post all scummy stuff you can find-game", but for one exception, Forumite (who you voiced doubts about), but for some reason you'd lynch him before prplhz while I have yet to see you voicing doubts about prplhz himself.
Do you realize where my beef lies? like I said, my beef with Cora is that he did that with every single aspect. Mafias are more cautious about what they're posting and tend to try to be more people-pleaser than townies. I don't mind people bringing multiple arguments into the table, heck I did the same with forumite not a long time ago. I do however mind it if the guy brings 10 arguments on the table and calls all 10 of his own arguments useless and weak in the same post. Not just some of them but literally every single one. The guy is horribly afraid to put his head out in any kind of way. Not sure if I agree. In the beginning he was doing random voting with his first push on prplhz, that´s not scummy. Repeating how everyone thinks he´s town, maybe a bit odd.
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