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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 10 2014 05:08 GMT
#9
/in

/exterminate
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:20 GMT
#638
Hey slam, I have the ability to make up an item every day and pretend to give it to someone. I will pretend to give you a made-up item if you will assist me.

Today I have made up the Cerulean Rectangular Prism
[image loading]


I will pretend to give you the Cerulean Rectangular Prism in exchange for you completing the following mission. All relevant information for your mission is contained in the following points:

(1) I have read the thread.

(2) I have summoned forth a mighty frowny face at the focus on slam's claim, mass claiming, and whatever rayn is doing or not doing.

(3) Lo, I am not particularly townie on the filter of one tefpoofter. I believe it shows a lot of tiny questions that appear to have little followup or little reason to really be asked, they appear to be questions asked just so that questions could be asked.


Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to sally forth into The Hinterlands and report your findings to me.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:26 GMT
#639
kita did you grow up on the peninsula or are you just finding appropriate pictures?

Also, you cannot have the Cerulean Rectangular Prism, but you mentioned tehpoofter's questions earlier and I'd be interested in your current thoughts about his filter.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:31 GMT
#642
##target: Alakaslam
##༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give CERULEAN RECTANGULAR PRISM
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:33 GMT
#645
On March 31 2014 12:27 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 03:16 Tehpoofter wrote:
Actual read on slam is I don't like him he might be mafia claiming the role and rayn brought that up earlier I believe and if he was pushing him for that I wouldn't be suspicious of him but I don't like you want to vote him because you think he is survivor.

If he is survivor I think there is a good way to deal with him in that case.

Well this disappeared quickly
Mission successful, thank you for participating.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:37 GMT
#646
thrawn i will make up future items as long as people don't kill me. Perhaps you can receive one.

your filter has so many actual one-liners in it. Not the worst kind, just lots and lots of little posts. If I were to be a psychologist, administering a Rorschach test to you, and I showed you an inkblot that looked like the letters A-M-I-K-O, what things might come to mind when you look at that picture?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:44 GMT
#648
Okay coo. It is now your turn, and it is the Mega Question Bonus Round. Would you ask me two questions, one about a person that you are interested in, and one that you feel might shed some light on myself and my alignment?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:48 GMT
#650
What's a maddox? I only know of the pitcher, and google just pulled up car dealerships. Also, washing machine, dishwasher, or power washer?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:51 GMT
#653
Oh. A mattock? They are ... fun to use. I've never attacked a wall with one though.

[image loading]



that?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:51 GMT
#654
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WITH WASHER IN THE NAME
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:58 GMT
#659
On March 31 2014 12:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok.

1. hopeless is heavly implying that he is intentionally playing in a way so that people find him scummy. last game he claimed to do this as some sort of strategy. or as he noted in this game (although jokingly) he is doing it for the sake of his 'always scummy as either alignment" meta. so is he town and doing either of those two things or is he scum and taking advantage of people's expectations of his play?

2. did you have a read on slam before you sent him on a mission?

Right now I'm moderately alright with hopeless. When called out by toad, he asked why he was mafia, said all they did was drop two quotes and say to lynch him. It's a very ... middle of the road reaction? He's not super worried about being called out. He's not entirely unconcerned. That's slightly slightly slightly townie for me.

I think his bits on rayn are curious to post as scum, that you're not going to defend yourself because you think someone else is going to push this other lynch. It reads like a legitimate thought, and not something you want to post in thread if scum? I don't put boatloads of stock in it, but so far those bits from him leave me feeling not-scummy-by-a-small-margin on him.

I don't think he's particularly trying to take advantage of anything with his play though. Nope nope nope.



As far as slam goes, the moment he claimed survivor I immediately didn't believe it, will continue to not believe it, and don't think it's worth discussing AT ALL. As far as his alignment and my read on him, nothing much. Thinking he's faking survivor doesn't actually do anything for me in any direction. Lying is wrong, m'kay. Calling a huge amount of attention to oneself on D1 as mafia for no reason is wrong, m'kay. So it's null, and he's null for me atm.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 03:58 GMT
#660
On March 31 2014 12:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Anyone aware of how George Lucas was inspired for the shape of the Millenium Falcon?
Didn't he model it after his cat?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:06 GMT
#783
kita, examine your blind spot please.

rayn has offered 1:1 as scum before. He also does it as town from what I remember, I think the specific example I recall right now is HolyFlare and not rayn, but rayn is happy to be sure of his reads and make anti-town offers for future lynches.

I will poke around a little more at this vote/non-existent case, but right now do not want to vote rayn. He's active, he proposes stuff that I don't think help town (mass claims, 1:1s, lynching slam), that keeps him off my radar right now.

Replies to some things asked of me in a sec
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:13 GMT
#787
On March 31 2014 18:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Jar Jar and Austin since you too didn't post much at the start of the day and ended up thinking I was scummy. IF you guys think I'm actually scum do you think its better for town to vote for me today or for Slam and his claimed survivor role? Essentially is it worth it going after a scummy read vs a 3rd party claim by Slam?
Vote you. Is it better to lynch a scum read or someone who claimed 3rd party?

HOLY CRAP IT'S BETTER TO LYNCH THE SCUM READ. HOLY CRAP HOLY CRAP HOLY CRAP.

Ain't no austins care 'bout no claims. Ain't no austins want to lynch no claims WHEN THE 3RD PARTY BEING CLAIMED IS NOT ANTI-TOWN. Ain't no austins care 'bout none of this crap.

Austins care about hunting scums. And lynching scums.

That's the preferable course of action. Always.

On March 31 2014 19:19 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 18:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DJO I'm interested in what you read on Austin/Hopeless is?


Regarding austin, I would like him to interact with more people than Slam and thrawn. I like the fact that he doesn't believe the survivor claim. I don't have problems with him questioning your alignment. But I need more posts from him. I would say slightly town for Austin.
@austin
What were your motivations to interact with Slam ?

I believe myself Slam is 3P, but not such thing as simple as a survivor. Again, I would like him to claim his exact wincon. But that's not the topic.

Regarding Hopeless, he looks disgruntled by the direction this game is taking for this first day (i.e. a lynch on Slam) and he is openly not putting much effort into the game for now. I could see town Hopeless doing that for various reasons. But it's also easy to do this as scum. So null for the moment on Hopeless, and I hope he can step up a little in the future. I don't mind him playing like this at the moment.
Slam's a person playing this game. I'm happy to interact with slam and see what he comes up with, because that's 10000% more useful than discussing claims or poking at him or using paint to draw hair on those birds and posting a bunch of bird beauty shop pictures in thread. Interacting with slam is good for town IF it's friendly and both people get somewhere with it.

On March 31 2014 22:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 13:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey jarjar.

if you want to lynch someone, it is required that you give an opinion about their alignment.
I thought I did:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 13:27 JarJarDrinks wrote:
alaskaslam - Yeah I don't see how we don't lynch him. I'm always about the low risk play. Basically he's either mafia or not town. Lynching him is pretty automatic IMO
If you want a percentage I'll say 35-40% chance of being scum. But I'll lynch 100% not town almost every time unless there's really obvious scum.


I dislike this post a lot. We should be lynching scummy people. Not people because of claims. WE ESPECIALLY SHOULDN'T BE LYNCHING "NON-TOWN" THAT IS NOT "ANTI-TOWN." THOSE ARE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS AND ONE DOES NOT HURT TOWN IN ANY WAY EXCEPT THAT TOWN GETS CAUGHT UP DISCUSSING IT.


side note:when I've been scum in themed games, the EASIEST EASIEST EASIEST thing for me to do has been hunt third parties. You can "scumhunt" someone who isn't town, but also isn't on your team. You can call them different, not town, try to get town to lynch them, and it's not gonna affect your team's powers or KP or anything. Hunting for 3P in a themed game, especially this early, and trying to lynch them, is SCUMMY to me. Especially true when someone randomly claims 3P and the 3P claimed is neutral.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:17 GMT
#793
On April 01 2014 00:26 Alakaslam wrote:
Austinmcc, I will at least honor you with this.

You sent me to the hinterlands to see what I found.

Well, go thou to the thither lands of Rayn's filter.

If tehpoofter is scum for the reasons you had me dig up, so find that Rayn also is. For he has called me confirmed town.

See that you do find it! And find why.

Most anti town player on record- FTW.
The reason I liked what you found on tehpoofter was actually how he wanted to lynch rayn, said rayn was scummy, and had just made a couple posts accusing rayn of being scum and voting him.

On March 31 2014 03:16 Tehpoofter wrote:
Actual read on slam is I don't like him he might be mafia claiming the role and rayn brought that up earlier I believe and if he was pushing him for that I wouldn't be suspicious of him but I don't like you want to vote him because you think he is survivor.

If he is survivor I think there is a good way to deal with him in that case.
My read on slam is that he might be mafia, RAYN BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER AND WAS PUSHING HIM FOR THAT.

My read on slam is x. This guy I think is scum also thinks x.

THIS IS NOT GOOD. Townies sometimes find people townie for having the same train of thought. People don't find someone scummy and then mention how they have the same train of thought as the scummy guy.



Right now slam, I'm okay with rayn for the reasons I stated above. It's a lot of minor stuff, and he's worth watching, but when I'm town and rayn is town I find him scummy for some particular things. Right now, he's hitting a lot of those notes in the way he normally does, and I don't like the idea of lynching him atm. Plus he drew that kita picture. Probably illegitimate, but making a paint picture to try and explain something even when the paint picture is somewhat confusing and takes a bunch of text to try and explain, reads minorly town to me.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:18 GMT
#794
On April 01 2014 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Austin you need to use your brain powers with thrawn and Vivax on N1. One of you gets shot and another one get yakked. It will be beneficial to see whose thought process changes after night phase and i wouldn't bank on anyone else to lynch kita just because they can't. They can't even make a case on him. Trust me. That's is the truth, noone in this game will get kita lynched other than you three and most likely one of you gets shot and another one gets yakked.
I'm okay with kita right now.

If he needs lynching, that's for later and I'm happy to push him and lynch him, because last time I played with scumKita I did that barely too late and got taken out at night.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:20 GMT
#796
On April 01 2014 01:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 01:06 austinmcc wrote:
kita, examine your blind spot please.


Haven't spent a lot of time on him and he won't be a priority for the remainder of the day due to other individuals I can use my time better on.

Avoiding a town vs town is my biggest worry at the moment because those put you back way too much early on. At work currently so time is limited but I still hope to be able to comment on others more in depth other than rayn.
His filter isn't large. If you dislike it, that's multiple people that find him scummy, and a couple that can be pushy and spammy and can drive a lynch. That is worth pursuing over reading other filters D1 imo.

You've made your thoughts known on rayn. Reading slam's filter is going to be more difficult and less useful. Reading other possible outside lynch candidates or folks might be worthwhile, but equally worthwhile is poofter. Reading gumshoe fine but takes like 20 seconds.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:26 GMT
#798
On March 31 2014 18:14 Tehpoofter wrote:
Which posts are you referring to here where I ask questions and don't follow up after an answer?
There's more followup than I initially saw, this is true.

Biggest would be:
On March 31 2014 03:36 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Djo once you're done catching up how do you feel about rayn's this game in comparison to last game we all played (titanic) or previous games?

This question also is good for Vivax/hopeless/thrawn but I don't think tehy're around atm.
You've asked djo stuff twice now, the first was the only one before my post, and there's nothing between you and djo (you talk with thrawn, rayn, amiko after asking them stuff). There's no attempt when vivax or hopeless enter thread to really engage them. You toss hopeless a "do you think rayn's done a good job of scumhunting this game" question which I think is not a discussion.

On rereading, it is less lack of followup, and more just the questions you're asking. I don't like asking people about meta reads on rayn when we're partway through D1 and rayn has a boatload of games. I don't like dinky questions to rayn about what the chances are of slam being survivor or mafia, because if you're ACTUALLY questioning rayn's thoughts/slam's alignment, then there are other options. It's just a half-question that doesn't od anything.

Just lots and lots of dinky questions concerning slam and survivors and whatnot, which is something that I think scum would have an easy time doing this game.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:27 GMT
#800
On April 01 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On April 01 2014 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Austin you need to use your brain powers with thrawn and Vivax on N1. One of you gets shot and another one get yakked. It will be beneficial to see whose thought process changes after night phase and i wouldn't bank on anyone else to lynch kita just because they can't. They can't even make a case on him. Trust me. That's is the truth, noone in this game will get kita lynched other than you three and most likely one of you gets shot and another one gets yakked.
I'm okay with kita right now.

If he needs lynching, that's for later and I'm happy to push him and lynch him, because last time I played with scumKita I did that barely too late and got taken out at night.

Anything other than D2 is too late.
Well I will be sure to make up something D2 and pretend to give it to someone to keep me alive.

Problem solved. I'm still currently fine with kita though, so there is no too late for me atm.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 31 2014 16:36 GMT
#802
rayn, since you like timelines of thoughts, here is one.

On March 31 2014 03:02 Tehpoofter wrote:
@ massclaiming Amiko summed up some of the different ways it could go and the reasonings seem good for not doing it helped me think through it. I like Amiko as town for that.


I don't think rayn is town he is playing completely different to the game I play with him before. He was aggressive but I feel like his push on Slam is an easy low hanging fruit type push. Survivor might not be town but its not mafia finding mafia > lynching the survivor. Rayn also should know that we need to look outside of just Slam either way we have to deduce how people are acting today because in an alignment swapping type setup the way you act day to day flip flopping on reads and stuff can give town good information.

I think that rayn is trying to deprive town of information by pushing a slam lynch, he also as I recalled as the super town hero he was last game I played posted a list of his reads as early as he did here.

Rayn is there a reason you chose to do so early? (positing a reads list)


My vote is here because of his push on Slam mainly and he just seems like he has a different town this game.

## unvote

## Vote: Rayn

(1) Rayn is mafia.

On March 31 2014 03:23 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because:
1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming
2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping"

Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed.


Okay I misread this the first time and thought it was you saying you want to always lynch the survivor... not the survivor claim.


So Rayn would you say that in a game with possible alignment changes lynching a mafia is crucial in case they can add to their team in some fashion or possibly hit a 3rd party role that can recruit for their own alignment as well?

I feel like even if Slam was still confirmed Survivor in this setup I wouldn't want to lynch him day 1 I'd much rather want to lynch someone I found scummy that could be mafia or an anti-town third party converting type role that seems likely given the setup.

(2) At no point have you become town, you're still scummy to tehpoofter. He adds that he doesn't want to lynch survivors or 3P claims, he wants to lynch scummy people.

On March 31 2014 06:19 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 06:09 Amiko wrote:
On March 31 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
This is also if slam was doing this as VT would be a horrible waste of a day.


@tehpoofter: What do you think the chances are that Alakaslam is Survivor vs. Mafia vs. VT?
Right now I'd guess, like, 70% survivor or traitor / 30% mafia / 0% vt. I guess there's also a chance he is some other 3rd party role.



I'll put it this way I don't think hes mafia here more than maybe 5% of the time. I think that he claimed way too passively and without care to be mafia. Mafia I feel like would use this claim in a situation where they're taking lots of pressure and he really wasn't under much I was one of the people voting him at the time and we were far from end of day.

So to me its like 85% survivor/ 5% mafia 5% mafia 5% other. I am of the attitude that to me a successful day for town in this type of game is to hit a mafia. Like if we go to lynch a mafia I'll be 100% happy if we kill Slam and hes survivor I would be like 40% happy if we hit a town I would be 0% happy. So for me I feel like Slam is a safe lynch if we don't have a clear mafia at the end of the day but I don't want to default lynch him from right now when we might catch a scum slipping up and start this game off right. I want an ez game for town not one where we play struggling. Survivor is a super uninformative lynch imo. I mean there is also the chance hes like Fool or something and claims survivor knowing people like rayn would push on him as any alignment (no clue if fool is possible or w.e. but still)
(3) Slam shouldn't be the lynch. He's "safe" ---> except he's being pushed as safe by rayn, imo (he's either 3P or scum or just anti-town in general and "you have to lynch slam").

On March 31 2014 06:27 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 06:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 31 2014 06:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
@thrawn yeah I saw after I already sent the previous post.

And wait his little fit there about not caring and saying "you guys deal with rayn" makes you think hes town? I'm not compelled at all. How can he be so discouraged so early in the game we have no flips no known information for all he knows were onto all the scum and going to stomp if hes town. I hate the acting like a child and saying "i give" cause someone calls you mafia making someone town defense.

I never said I give up, but I'm not going to "defend" myself from anything when rayn is out for slam's blood and will likely get his way.



See thats a bad attitude Imo Rayn is only one person and he might be scum this game. Hes not the town hero he was in titanic this is a new game boys and you shouldn't just sheep rayn. The only way rayn gets what he wants is if you act like its a forgone conclusion.
(4) rayn might be scum.

On March 31 2014 18:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 16:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin looks really good. I am surprised i get what he is saying.

tehpoofer actually is probably scum. He tells me to do scumhunting. Surprise surprise i think i have done the most scumhunting in this game hands down. He has talked about nothing than me, he bases his read on me on one game (rofl), noone agrees with him on his read, yet his meta read must be correct. ^^ I could write a bigger case but i don't wanna do that right now. Basically he keeps flip-flopping over same things over and over again, when i tell him why they are wrong he forgets them for a while and then they suddenly just reappear. He is saying maybe two things and nothing else in this game.

I agree with whoever said (austin?) that Hopeless is town. While i think his play is completely useless and idiotic he is town.

JJD also looks okayish.

so kita and tehpoofer are most likely scum. maybe gumshoe.



I would love to hear your bigger case rayn. This is what I mean that is different from last game... your heart is either not as into this game or you're a different alignment than last time. The rayn from the game I played was more than happy to bring up a whole case on someone even if it was a massive wall of texts and then scream at the town for not realizing they're scum. This isn't what you're doing this game... its different and its the only meta I know for you. The Way I play mafia is assessing how people play different alignments and roles and compare them between games along with the information in the thread to attempt to make a read. Thus far you are different than last game where you were basically the whole town. IF I have a read you do X as town and then you do Y instead should I draw a different conclusion?
(5) i want to hear your case. You're playing different from townrayn, etc.


It's not a nice, straight line. But for someone who finds rayn scummy and wants rayn lynched, tehpoofter is doing very little else. When asked about other players, they are generally townie. When interacting with rayn, his scumread, rayn might be town. He's making very little effort to PUSH anyone off slam and onto rayn. He's making very little effort to PUSH anyone to vote rayn. He's making very little effort to even SEEM LIKE HE THINKS RAYN IS REALLY SCUM.

rayn is his biggest scumread, but maybe is town? He doesn't seem to be looking at anyone else as possible scum. He got rolling a little bit and then has just sat, and the way he's sitting doesn't feel right if he thinks rayn is scum (PUSH rayn, especially when other people are doing so) nor does it feel right if he's worried rayn might be town (BE PROACTIVE, who else is scum?)
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