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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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So nice to play a normal, non-crazily-themed mini-mafia game again ^^ | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 09:15 marvellosity wrote: So nice to see you playing any game :/ A sanity break was required But I missed you too <3 | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 09:21 marvellosity wrote: So how the deuce do you start an all-vanilla game anyways? I think we need to grab one more person, then start a circle-jerk, then wait for someone to invariably make a stupid case, then rip each other's throats out for the next 48 hours until we last-minute mislynch some townie. That's how I remember it working anyway. It's been a while. | ||
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Hapahauli
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In the mean time... On January 21 2014 08:27 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm town. And damn sexy. Lynch all lairs. EZ game. ##Vote VisceraEyes | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 09:31 kitaman27 wrote: Not much of a plan if you're going to warn people about what you're looking for. ##Vote Sandroba (Did you catch me?) Normally, even early-game troll votes have some pretense to find someone suspicious/mafia (even if stretched alot). This post doesn't follow. It doesn't call Sandroba scum in any joking/trolling way. You're just calling his actions dumb, then voting for them. Which is a pretty scummy thought process. How are you constructing Sandroba's post to be scummy as opposed to just stupid? | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote: What do you think? Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought? Now that you've found something scummy that I've done, am I a better vote than VE? Your post seemed serious enough for me to read into the logic. But you say it's a random thoughtless vote so alas. Certainly didn't seem like one to me though. Either way, are you specifically trying target Sandroba, or is this something "random" you latched onto in the thread? | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 10:51 WaveofShadow wrote: lol I'm really hoping you're not scum kita. Nah no reason to vote sandroba yet. Not only is there basically nothing to vote him for, I've seen what he's capable of as the game progresses (from PYP) and if he is town and plays this game anything like that, he'll start slow and then start bringing the pain to scum. I don't understand your reasoning here. What does him being a "slow-starter" have to do with not wanting to vote for him? For example, wouldn't it be arguably good to put pressure on him early to determine his alignment? | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote: ... Hapa, do you see yourself getting shot N1 in this game? I go into every game wanting to be the towniest townie that will be obv-shot N1. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 11:28 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not voting him as a joke. I think he is a great vote. We should lynch him today. Why is he a great vote and/or lynch? I really don't understand what your objective is here given a recent post of yours... On January 21 2014 10:34 kitaman27 wrote: ... Do you think I'm trying to paint sandroba in a bad light using my "scummy thought process" like you mentioned or do you think that it was a random vote with little thought? ... | ||
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Hapahauli
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All I got from your post was "we should lynch lurkers, but not discuss it." ...which isn't really policy discussion. | ||
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On January 21 2014 11:47 Promethelax wrote: ... Since I am town that means you and I shall discuss other people. In this case VE and this post: You see VE knows how to say things. But this post doesn't say things. This post, when the fluff is removed says that we should let Sandroba do his own thing because no matter what he'll do his own thing and that Sandroba may or may not catch scum. It shows such a lack of curiosity that I am disturbed. Do you, Hapa, agree? y/n? Yeah I agree. I've been put off by VE's posting so far, mostly because he's been one of the more active people in the thread and hasn't managed to post anything substantive. It's reminiscent of my last few voice mafia games with him, where he's willing to talk a lot about irrelevant things at length, while ignoring attempts at any meaningful discussion. My initial vote on him was random, but I like where it's parked right now. Will you go on a date with me y/n? What's your favorite restaurant? I'll make the reservations <3 | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 11:53 kitaman27 wrote: I can't point out all the scummy things he posts if he hasn't posted yet. If you were to vote for him then maybe he will respond and I'd have something to give you. Sounds like a win-win to me! Can we talk about something serious? What do you think of VE? He's the topic du-jour. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 12:06 WaveofShadow wrote: ... I'm fine with VE for now for reasons stated earlier. What does bother me a little Hapa (and I'll admit, bothers me every time this is brought up by anyone in any game) is your comparison of VE's play to voice mafia games. There is very little if any indication at all that you can base people's play in forum games on how they play on TS. Par example (though not the only one), in voice mafia I am supremely confident, can sniff out scum with just a few words from them, and play mafia really damn well. Would you say that describes my forum mafia play? Essentially text and forum-based games are way too different to make proper comparisons in my opinion, and I would really think that you'd be aware of that. I agree that they're different, and there's no way I'd lynch VE on his voice-meta alone. However his early-game so far is objectively scummy, independent of his voice-mafia play. I only mentioned the voice-mafia stuff because its worth noting how eerily similar it is so far. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 12:02 kitaman27 wrote: I can't call VE scummy, else he will vote for me. I KNOW YOUR SECRETS. I'd rather talk about marv. He suggest that the all vanilla setup makes things difficult to start off rather than attempting to generate conversation. That's an interesting observation about marv, but there's just not much to talk about given the context of his posting (Page 1, Day 1 fluff), not to mention that he hasn't been around for any of the recent discussion. I'd rather talk about people who are posting now or have atleast some content worth analyzing. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On January 21 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:...The reason to random vote sandroba is because he is incredibly lazy and notorious for getting away without posting on day one. Well... why wouldn't you post this before? Regardless, several players have mentioned that sandroba isn't going to respond to pressure anyway, so I don't see the point here. Hapa appears to identify that it would be a good idea to try to apply pressure to a slow starter, yet later suggests that he can't understand my objective. I understand your motive. What I don't understand is how you think it's going to work when you've already undermined yourself several times. There's no point in making a random pressure vote on a player when you've already stated that it's poorly justified and random. Rather than trying to contribute to the pressure, he is satisfied with asking serious questions such as "Why is he a great vote?", when I think it is pretty obvious that there isn't any content in the thread to justify it. Why would I want to contribute to troll-pressure? I want to start serious discussion, and not dabble in random unjustified votes. The sooner we can get away from this random voting shit, the better it will be for town. | ||
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Hapahauli
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However, I do feel that VE is scummy for the reasons that you're suspicious of Wave: I find very few of his questions relevant thus far. I don't see what he is looking for. Nothing VE has said has been relevant so far. There are no objectives in his gameplay beyond cracking "witty" 1-lined responses. VE's gameplay so far gives me the impression that he's more interested in irrelevant small-talk than finding a read, pursuing an objective, or even promoting discussion. Hell, Isn't it strange for someone with 10 posts this early not to have said a single damn relevant thing? | ||
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On January 21 2014 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote: I get a feel for reads through conversation. My questions to Hapa/Prome are to try and get a feel for them while creating conversation at the same time. When I'm curious about something or something strikes me odd, I mention it. I'm not sure why that isn't obvious to you. So what's your feeling of myself and Prome as of now? Any other reads worth mentioning? | ||
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On January 21 2014 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll say something when there's something worth saying. I eagerly await these contributions, though is there nothing worth saying at the moment? Anything objectively scummy in my play? Bring it up Hapa. This is subjective, and it's VE we're talking about. I've think I've summed up quite adequately my read on you. If you'd like to ignore all of that and call it "subjective", you're welcome to do so, but it will do you no favors come lynchtime. | ||
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