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DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States245 Posts
December 19 2013 20:05 GMT
#1
So I wanted to play BW, I find it more enjoying than SC2 (I kinda rage quit after I saw that PvP finals recently) got into BW again, played against AIs, can win, play against real people, I don't know what to do, I don't know how to counter or what to build... Fast lurkers, I don't know how to hold that..

Can someone help me? I am now like D- with 764 pts.

my iccup id is tSn.DjKniteX and I play Terran

can someone teach me how to play?
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 20:24:40
December 19 2013 20:20 GMT
#2
Read this: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Terran_Strategy
(Along with other tutorial stuff - like the early episodes of day9 daily, which were all bw, etc)
Then play until your hands hurt - and voila!

Edit: And carefully watch other (good) players play the game!

Out of curiosity: What's that pvp final about. And how can a match other people played make you quit a game?
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19386 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 20:23:14
December 19 2013 20:21 GMT
#3
You will get a ton of different answers and honestly the one you should get and I mean no disrespect, is using the TL search function as there are tons of these threads in existence over the past year now. Ultimately your best friend is here:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:Beginners
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Strategy
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Terran_Strategy
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Protoss_Strategy
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Zerg_Strategy

Practice Partners (Official) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427026
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DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States245 Posts
December 19 2013 20:26 GMT
#4
yeah i spent like 3 days/nights reading the liquidpedia, I found out that the Science Vessel is essential in almost every game I played. I should get a practice partner and Ill go watch some day9!

I need to at least win one game.. Lol
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19386 Posts
December 19 2013 20:31 GMT
#5
On December 20 2013 05:26 DjKniteX wrote:
yeah i spent like 3 days/nights reading the liquidpedia, I found out that the Science Vessel is essential in almost every game I played. I should get a practice partner and Ill go watch some day9!

I need to at least win one game.. Lol

Join the sgs skype group too. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272674
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
December 19 2013 20:34 GMT
#6
If it makes you feel any better I hit C and I feel the exact same way...
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States245 Posts
December 19 2013 20:35 GMT
#7
On December 20 2013 05:31 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 05:26 DjKniteX wrote:
yeah i spent like 3 days/nights reading the liquidpedia, I found out that the Science Vessel is essential in almost every game I played. I should get a practice partner and Ill go watch some day9!

I need to at least win one game.. Lol

Join the sgs skype group too. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272674


whoooa, I will check that out, thanks!
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 20:38:24
December 19 2013 20:36 GMT
#8
I remember when I started out on iccup; 2007, I thought i was the shit, I didnt drop a game on b.net. I ended up losing about thirty games straight.

edit: Point is, you will probably become frustrated/despondent, just remember its normal to get thrashed.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
rusty23456
Profile Joined September 2009
United States112 Posts
December 19 2013 21:31 GMT
#9
On December 20 2013 05:34 puppykiller wrote:
If it makes you feel any better I hit C and I feel the exact same way...




I second this.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44304 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 23:39:02
December 19 2013 23:31 GMT
#10
If this helps make you feel any better i kinda lost 10 straight matches before i won 2 matches then proceeded to lose another 7 before winning another one match. That sums up my beginning of broodwar multiplayer. I still feel like shit whenever i play nowadays.

And one more thing. Since you are terran you are not gonna like tvp.
this is a quote
Iway
Profile Joined December 2011
France163 Posts
December 19 2013 23:39 GMT
#11
try to play protoss then switch, it'll be easier. Micro marines is hardcore.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
December 19 2013 23:41 GMT
#12
if it makes you feel any better.. I think terran is the most challenging for starters, mechanics-wise
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States245 Posts
December 20 2013 00:24 GMT
#13
but I like playing Terran, I like know almost all the hot keys for Terran now and besides its fun. Lol I like plying with vultures
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
Todd P
Profile Joined December 2010
42 Posts
December 20 2013 01:13 GMT
#14
Terran is the best when you reach higher levels. I like the fact that whenever you win a game against higher ranked players (C/C+/B-/B) they just whine that Terran is IMBA
Impossible is nothing
Medry *
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada166 Posts
December 20 2013 01:23 GMT
#15
This is how i felt when i was playing my first games. I just learned one build for each matchup and went from there, slowly evolving each build depending on what my opponent was doing.

Just play a tonne of games! you will feel yourself improving after awhile.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 02:28:05
December 20 2013 02:28 GMT
#16
On December 20 2013 10:23 Medry wrote:
Just play a tonne of games! you will feel yourself improving after awhile.

this can't be emphasized enough lol. You need to play a lot of games at the beginning. When I started as terran, I was losing to early pools(guessing 8 or 9 at the time). Once my opponent got lings in my base, I just couldn't get rid of them that easily and by the time I did, he had more rallied. Eventually, I'll gg after losing most if not all of my workers. After that happened several times, I started placing an SCV(or two) on the ramp with a marine or more behind it(usually whenever I went 1 rax cc) and started to keep my scout alive for longer to see what's going on and such. It made a big difference to the point where I wasn't losing to early pools anymore. Point is, just keep playing. Once you get used to the keys, control, the game will only get better
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 20 2013 03:19 GMT
#17
Wait until you see all the TLS zvz finals...
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
December 20 2013 03:44 GMT
#18
with the bw pro-scene no longer around and the rising number of these former pros streaming, watching their fpvods can actually help you a tremendous amount as well. mass gaming is one thing but if you mass game with the wrong ideas and techniques, you will hit a ceiling sooner or later. seeing fpvods will give you a real time sense of timings and techniques that they employ.

one of the things that i learnt really well was breaking a lurker contain and seeing how bisu usually does a simple zealot drop in his bases to draw his attention away before he fires away at the containment. its such subtle but pivotal things that they usually do that is missed out on broadcasted games that you can pick up from there. so yes while you mass game, also watch their fpvods because it really did help me a bunch.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 20 2013 04:49 GMT
#19
watch the old day9 dailies. Watch them now, watch them over and over every time you hit a different rank, and you'll find them useful in very different ways.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
December 20 2013 04:53 GMT
#20
Youre definitely not alone. The title of this thread should be Brood War's tagline.
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