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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 23 2013 04:24 GMT
#15
On October 23 2013 12:16 Umasi wrote:
I'll /cohost if you want another
otherwise, I'll /obs

OBZY GET THE FUCK IN THIS GAME LIKE YOU SAID YOU FLIPPANTLY PROMISED YOU WOULD


I played in 30, I played in 40, so I'll play in 50-

/in

but you are denied from cohosting as a result. roar
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 23 2013 16:10 GMT
#33
On October 23 2013 23:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Obzy will you gain the confidence from this to play more often? I hope so. My themed is coming up, Umasi is helping and its gonna be gud!!


Haha we'll see. If I didn't work, I'd play more often ^^ Although I don't really plan on stopping working (unfortunately) :l

and dunno. Unlikely though!
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 00:31 GMT
#110
I agree. Whenever people aren't posting at all it (obviously) makes them unreadable, and they tend to slip by without actually contributing/playing the game. It doesn't necessarily make them scum, but it's definitely a pain to play with lol. I haven't looked at where people are from at all; are most of us going to be around near the deadline?
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 02:26 GMT
#132
Hm. Things are slow and I'm not sure what to do about it. I was hoping that there'd randomly be tons of chatter and the game would randomly explode, but I guess it's always a tad naive to hope for something like that to happen ^^;

Although there's only a page so far... first off, anyone here?

Second, even though cakeman's comment on Storr is potentially somewhat accusatory, it's so mild it doesn't even register notice. So far, there doesn't really seem to be an obnoxious (read as: discussion generating) individual around, which is probably why the start is so slow. Rather than the comment on Storr though, the only thing that I really noticed atm is
On October 30 2013 10:21 cakemanofdoom wrote:
At least, wouldn't something concrete (rather than a vague comment that can basically be ignored as personal musing) be better for forcing people to talk?

--> cake's first post was reaching a little, but this second one ends in a way that sounds like he's... hmm. Basically the fact it's a question looks like he's trying to garner approval rather than say anything with it. Also, his mention of Storr's post might as well just be personal musing given how little it mattered, and it certainly didn't generate discussion.

Any thoughts? :l (I'm gonna try to get into a bit of a habit this game of posting whatever I've written rather than continuously editing it based on the most recent post, so if I look 1-4 posts behind, just roll with it)
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 02:31 GMT
#134
Van, why is it very scummy? re: cakeman and owb. I didn't really get much of an impression there one way or another, although I agree that owb looked like he was just answering storr's thought rather than defending balla.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 03:26 GMT
#142
I find it interesting that several people haven't posted at all yet, and they seem to be from time zones such that they almost certainly noticed the game is going on. (Completely ignoring the fact that they had to confirm in a PM lol.)

I don't really care if you have nothing to say; if you haven't posted yet, make yourself available. Even though we're all apparently so nice that our accusations look like we're hitting each other with wiffle balls, there's stuff to talk about. [just don't ask me what it is]

and okay, I buy that. I like the point about how a good discussion starter is to apply pressure. We definitely need some. A game that even I am able to keep up on is moving really, really slowly.

Hmphph.hhh. I don't really like how Storr answered irrelevant things without answering direct questions posed to him before apparently leaving. like how Balla says 'there's nothing there' [outofcontext]- there really isn't. All he's said is that he is fine with lynching lurkers, makes his one line that we've been looking at the reaction to, and leaves.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 03:32 GMT
#146
On October 30 2013 10:07 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Storr's post seems to be just trying to randomly add suspicion on Balla. There's no justification behind it, only a weak suggestion that the post might be bad somehow. Almost like he's hoping for someone else to jump in and find a reason to get Balla lynched.

This sounds almost like personal musing because your conclusion is so vague. The wording implies you want us to nod along, rather than actually pointing a finger at him yourself. (I mean, even the implication of what the original post is doing is storr apparently hoping that somebody else will come in and also point a finger at someone.)

if that makes any sense
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 03:34 GMT
#147
If that's the way that Storr plays, (and yeah there's several players on this forum that have reactions similar to that), I definitely would've expected more of a followup on your actual response, instead of just saying it and then not caring at all.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 03:35 GMT
#148
by reactions similar to that, I mean finding posts that could possibly be open to minor (miniscule, even) amounts of interpretation and posting oneliners that say absolutely nothing, only to try to draw attention to the post.

wtf TL doesn't think miniscule is a word
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 05:15 GMT
#158
On October 30 2013 13:48 JonnyLaw wrote:
@cake Nah, I'm keeping that opinion to myself for a while. I'm not telling anyone how to play on day one.

Nyxnyxnyx is active in lol subforum. I expect to see him post in the next few hours. It's an awkward time for him.

@storr If you've played or obs'd newb games you'd understand his concern. This thread looks active and that's an oddity from what i've seen in the last two games.


Does this thread seriously look active? =l
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 05:18 GMT
#162
##Vote: July617

I'm down with that, he's normally active in the preceding 5 hours if you go by last newbie game, would've expected him to drop in at least once.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 05:32 GMT
#165
i realize you're speaking hypothetically but it would be nice if the game reached 40+ pages by night 1 like my first newbie that I had trouble keeping up with ^^ I was more asking if jonny legitimately thought the game was moving quickly, since it might've been due to a different perspective compared to his previous games or something *shrugs*

Storr, what do you think of Van atm?
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 30 2013 15:56 GMT
#195
I could kill almost anyone in this game atm. As an aside, morning all - I'm working for the next 8ish hours so my responses may be frequent or nonexistent depending on how busy my day is. (This will be the same for all weekdays)

Jonny, I agree with some of your points about Van - why do you bring up Poofter at the end, though? It seems unrelated to the rest of your case.

Although I'd love to just continue calling out all the lurkers, at the moment;

##Unvote
##Vote: nyxnyxnyx


For having only one post, coming in with a "well, I said I'd make some reads" and saying "I think that the people that are receiving attention are scummy too!" says practically nothing. I also, although I'd much rather not kill him today, think Storr's post here is interesting in that it doesn't talk about nyx at all, when nyx showed up to post literally exactly what he apparently doesn't want the non-posting (lurkers?) to do.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 31 2013 00:44 GMT
#284
So I'm kinda caught up - dunno if I'll be around much this afternoon. Busy busy, not like it matters.

Atm I'm thinking balla, van, and jonny are pretty solidly town right now - not really gonna bother linking/finding exact sources, but the way that balla has played all game has seemed townie to me (actively questioning people with good questions, answering questions using logic that I would have applied, so on and so forth). I was significantly nuller on Van yesterday, which is why when I saw jonny's minicase this morning, I liked parts of it, although I didn't have time to really gauge van's response. Throughout the day though, the way that Van has been applying pressure has indeed been consistent and he's had a wide range of targets, which is consistent with the way he has liked to play. Also, his thoughts on scummy people have been things I've largely agreed with.

Yesterday, I thought Van was scummier than not mostly due to pointing out how he treats everybody as potential mafia at the beginning (a reasonable sentiment, whatever) - but immediately tunneled on cake (which was also fine) - while siding with Storr, who I thought he should've been more suspicious of. Jonny's mini-case that I saw this morning basically poked at exactly that; that and a combination of recent activity is what makes me lean fairly town on him as well. Those three are probably my strongest reads at this point.

So there's one thing that really sort of bothered me - (and it was indeed because I was referenced for no reason) - July entered with, in my opinion, a restatement of what I had already said, and then proceeded to make a few mostly pointless posts, particularly here. In the linked post, he blatantly misread - and was promptly shot down, of course - but then somehow decided to keep talking about it after Van responded? He hasn't said anything of value, and for that I'd happily vote him; but this is all just buildup-

oh wait nvm okay so I was thinking that Storr's post here
On October 31 2013 01:50 StorrZerg wrote:
cake might be town
i know he has had a lot of pressue, but he doesnt scream scum to me yet.

@obzy push something else. no reason to sheep onto july yet.


made no sense, because I hadn't thought there was anything to sheep... Completely forgot that I had voted him yesterday before unvoting this morning, and that Storr had actually already voted him. I had sort of been wondering what it meant that my suspicions of July's bad posting somehow caused Storr to tell me to not sheep onto July yet, but it was just my reading fail. W/e ^_^;;;

I think cake is probably more town than not, he seems like a very typical "be scummy while acting townie" to me. I don't feel comfortable voting him today, his recent posting has been solid, and his initial posting didn't really seem bad, although that's just my interpretation.

Regarding E00e, Vonthin, nyxnyxnyx, and onlywonderboy - I don't really have solid reads on any of them. Owb's recent post where he actually says some things isn't too bad though, so I don't really know if he should be in this grouping. ^^ The fact that it isn't too bad just means he's not useless lurky... I'll address it in a sec blah blah i wanna finish this first read dump crap pile.

basically balla van jonny town
cake looks townish
dunno about storr or owb
e00e von nyx and odin are lurking/forgettable/haven't posted
july looks scummy to me
and I literally haven't read anything about poofter in depth to form an opinion because I'm lazy. I'll do that now.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 31 2013 00:52 GMT
#285
Okay. I had been sketchy on Poofter since the way he left yesterday implied that he intended to stick around, but instead he only reappeared this morning - I think his suspicion on cake is misplaced, but his posting is good, so as long as he keeps it up (although a little more content and a little less chitchat ^^ the absolute lack of content yesterday is what made me wary) I don't have any intention of really going after him atm.

owb, why do you think that July should be pardoned for the way he's currently playing?
On October 31 2013 03:07 onlywonderboy wrote:
July - He played a very aggro game last time too so none of his comments seem out of character. He was SK last game, but that didn't stop him from playing in a way that didn't preserve his well being. I want to see how his posts develop but his current comments might not seem as scum as a lot of people are making them out to be

The way that you say that, I would actually draw the opposite interpretation- "Because he is playing in a similar manner, and his posts can be seen as scum inherently, if we were to use meta, it means he's likely to be scum" instead of "Because he's playing similarly, and he's scummy, it means people shouldn't worry so much."

What do you think of Storr?
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 31 2013 01:00 GMT
#286
whatever i'm impatient

I don't like the way Storr has been posting. He seemed okay yesterday because 'he was being targeted by the only potentially aggressive play by cake for a largely meaningless comment,
On October 30 2013 09:46 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 09:41 Balla24 wrote:
Let's keep the pace of the game up too, none of that long post bullshit unless you need to address a lot of points. Short and to the point high in content. Fast-paced posting makes it hard for scum to clearly think through what is going on and it makes it easier to find lurkers. And yes, lynch lurkers.


idk what to think of this post...

He dodged my question about Van yesterday when I was sort of suspicious of him[Van], and honestly hasn't said anything of value since then other something along the lines of "well i guess cake might be town", as sentiment began falling off. I also think his telling me not to sheep the July vote was ridiculous and bothered me (even though it was my own misinterpretation), since it was very obviously voting on a nonposter to attempt to illicit some sort of reaction, and telling me to go push something else when he himself had not pushed July at all, in addition to then following up this hard work by not pushing anybody, but only trying to discredit and discourage people from making availability known to the thread, is holy crap this sentence got long.

I feel more comfortable voting Storr right now than nyxnyxnyx by a considerable amount, although I'm amenable to a July vote. I definitely think that our candidates for the vote should be drawn from the two of them, plus the lurkers.

##Unvote
##Vote: StorrZerg


If anybody has any comments (or just wants to make fun of how wrong I am), lemme know - I've basically composed posts for 30 minutes straight now and nobody's said a word ^^;
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 31 2013 01:27 GMT
#294
The thing is, jonny, Storr's contributions have little to do with other people, they read to me like general "how to play the game/how I want the game to be played" types of comments. all of our posts talking about lurkers are... okay? Because they are bad, and it's hard to keep a perfect mindset ^^ but really, we all agree that they totally suck and it would be better if our friendly lurkers were to actually join us more often, especially with their opinions on people. There's enough written now that even though it isn't much, you can still draw conclusions based on the info, or lack of info that exists, in my opinion.

although they totally may not be correct conclusions

Understood and largely agreed, owb - which is why my vote isn't currently resting on him, although he's probably objectively the scummiest person. If he continues to play in a combative, noncommittal way, it won't be difficult to properly identify it. If he stops entirely, then that's also not useful - and if he shapes up and becomes a bastion of towniness, then the issues are resolved.

Jonny, although I agree that the first 2/3 of poofter's filter is basically meaningless, I think that can be said about more than one person, and the remainder is enough to make me not primarily worried about him at the moment.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 31 2013 05:30 GMT
#339
On October 31 2013 14:23 Vonthin wrote:
Feel free to ask me any questions will be around for a couple more hours till I have to go to sleep.

Sure. Given that every read in your post is a sheep, please explain why we shouldn't lynch you instead. Also, please put your vote on somebody, since you seem to afk for such long periods of time that you might otherwise miss the deadline.
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 31 2013 05:31 GMT
#341
I guess the odin one isn't a sheep. ^_^ The rest looks incredibly sheepy to me though~
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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
October 31 2013 05:32 GMT
#342
Odin, I think that it was stated earlier that Jonny meant that nyx was typically active in that time frame, or active in the LoL subforum as a general rule, rather than implying at that exact moment nyx happened to be active.
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