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Grackaroni
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On September 11 2013 06:43 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright good it's full so I don't have to be tempted. /replace On September 11 2013 07:05 debears wrote: /out didnt expect this to fill so fast. Can't play right now being sick and all  WaveofShadow will be replacing Debears.  | ||
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On September 11 2013 06:34 Sn0_Man wrote: Its OK you can be the scum troll and Kush can be the town troll and you can have troll wars instead! I think it is clear from the pre-game that in order to have a balanced game, there must be 1 town troll and 1 scum troll. ##Vote: Kushm4sta Your Move... KUSHM4STA (LET THE TROLL WARS BEGIN!) | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 12 2013 07:20 strongandbig wrote: papasmurf i see you volunteered to coach a newbie. that kind of implies that you have played before. Are you accusing Papasmurf of smurfing? On September 12 2013 07:20 Papa_Smurf wrote: Why did you say kenpachi SnB? Does he go by a new name now? Yes, I switched my name to Grackaroni. | ||
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On September 12 2013 07:17 Papa_Smurf wrote: and so it begins. No idea what golden sun is (Genesis of it and so forth). Looks pretty sweet though. Anyways Hi guys. Is grack really a troll too normally? On September 12 2013 07:18 strongandbig wrote: yes. koshi how @S&B I'm curious were you answering the above question saying that I do normally troll? | ||
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On September 12 2013 07:32 strongandbig wrote: yeah i think i thought that because you lurked your way to a scum victory in LI but i checked got and you didnt troll there so consider troll accusation rescinded. I did actually troll in that game but I trolled/lurked into town draw. (Mattchew revealed the mafia) It seemed suspicious to me that you were mischaracterizing my play when I had just played with you in Game of Thrones where I didn't troll. But you being in the LI game makes sense. | ||
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On September 12 2013 07:44 kushm4sta wrote: ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! How dare you include me with the spammers?!! I never spam. Who the fuck is this smurf coward? anyone know his real identity? How do you respond to my accusation? Quit dodging me, SCUM TROLL! | ||
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On September 12 2013 07:58 VayneAuthority wrote: sup nerds, few concerns why did blubbdavid come into the thread and say hi then peace completely? he was here yet had nothing to contribute to the game. SnB is town, get votes off him. just played scum with him and this is obvious already In all seriousness, you need to explain why you are confident SnB is town already this early in the game. Can you give me some reasoning? | ||
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On September 12 2013 08:18 VayneAuthority wrote: that's actually an interesting quote you just responded to SnB, I missed that. @grackaroni why specifically were you concerned with what SnB thought of me? Sounds like trying to see if you should jump on the wagon too at some point. You say interesting but it sounds like the implication you are trying to make is that it's scummy. What is scummy about it? I wanted to know if S&B agrees with what you said about his meta and if he actually thinks you would be able to have such a strong read on him already as town. I never put much stock in my day1 reads, especially this early, so for somebody to come into the thread already certain about S&B's alignment seems scummy to me. | ||
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On September 12 2013 08:37 strongandbig wrote: lol regardless of what you think my alignment is do i really remind you of sicillian? if i do ive failed. grack you haven't said anything about my response. do you think strongly defending townreads early day1 like vayne has been doing is scummy in general? It has nothing to do with vayne being adamant about defending his town read. If you've got a strong town read on day1 you should defend him. It's the fact that Vayne had a strong town read in the first place at that point in the game that is scummy.I saw nothing that gave me a strong town read on you which gives me the impression he is bullshitting. | ||
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On September 12 2013 09:18 strongandbig wrote: Hmm interesting. How can you differentiate between him bullshitting and him having different information (recent games together) or having a different threshold for giving out townreads? That's what I have to think about. I haven't played with Vayne before but he seems to be very aggressive and much more confident in his reads than myself so it's possible for him to be town and not bullshitting. However, On September 12 2013 08:18 VayneAuthority wrote: that's actually an interesting quote you just responded to SnB, I missed that. @grackaroni why specifically were you concerned with what SnB thought of me? Sounds like trying to see if you should jump on the wagon too at some point. This quote rubs me the wrong way. Why shouldn't i be concerned about what your thoughts were on Vayne. If you were to say that you weren't deviating much from your standard play or that it didn't make sense for him to have such a strong town read it would be very telling. There was nothing scummy about my question to you. I wanted more information from you and it seems like a weird thing for him to grasp on to and turn against me. | ||
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On September 12 2013 09:43 goodkarma wrote: EBWOP: Do you mean to say that because you don't share a read that someone else has that makes them scum? For sure strong townreads early are a bit rare (at least for me), but have you looked at strong's playstyle before? Wow. No I'm not arguing that people are scum for disagreeing with my reads.... His read literally came out of nowhere. I'm suspicious of people who come up with strong reads at a time that I feel that they shouldn't have strong reads. | ||
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On September 12 2013 09:55 goodkarma wrote: So just to be clear, you're saying that no one should ever have strong reads this early unless said person is scum? I mean, from my perspective it makes a player more likely to be scum. If I was town I would never be this confident in a player from what I saw so far in this day If I was scum It seems like some bullshit that could slip out of me to save my scum buddy or protect a townie. It's becoming more and more clear to me that Vayne is a very different player than myself so I will take that into consideration. | ||
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Your scum narrative for my actions doesn't make sense to me. On September 12 2013 11:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Now onto the actual game. I'm fine with VA at the moment. The sheer fact that he is actually choosing to give some analysis and reads D1 is a nice change from most of the play in his usual games (aside from the fact that he's going to spew some bullshit about how he 'plays differently every game' or something). I want him around. SnB, I think this may be the most I've EVER seen you actively hunt/contribute out of ANY game we've played in together thus far. Not sure what to make of it, and the fact that you and Vayne seem to agree very quickly on each others' alignments to some degree is either really good or really worrying---which leads me to Grack. He seem to also find this somewhat worrying (on the Vayne side of things) but... This reads to me of poking just to gauge reaction to see if it's safe to start a wagon. It looks like a scum Grack being very very careful about harboring suspicion and looking for SnB to 'lead' him in the right direction as to whether town will view his suspicion on Vayne as 'ok' or not. It could have also been a preliminary attempt to break up what could be a potential town circle starting, but that might be going a bit far. For now, ##Vote: Grackaroni I'm scum subtly trying to buddy S&B to form a wagon on Vayne, OK that is possible. I honestly wouldn't give my scum play that much credit but w/e. On September 12 2013 09:52 strongandbig wrote: Hmmm, I actually kind of agree with you in regards to that specific comment. Have to figure out how much weight to give that relative to my general impression of va atm. S&B made this post. On September 12 2013 11:48 WaveofShadow wrote: It's becoming more and more clear to me that you didn't garner the reaction from thread that you wanted and you're trying to back off now. In other news, Kush are you going to be lolkush this game, or Persona Kush? This is completely misrepresenting what happened in the thread. literally 10 minutes before I posted that S&B agreed with my point. If I was scum and my plan was to buddy S&B in order to lynch Vayne then everything would be going according to plan and I wouldn't be *backing off* Your narration for me being scum doesn't fit with what was happening in the thread. I'm really not leaning too strongly one way or another with Vayne at the moment. I've just been outlining my thought process in the thread. | ||
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On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote: I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles. Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them. VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time. GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction) I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move. Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread. Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got. Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says. I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though. Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen. I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. -Pandain came into the thread with a long constructed post but he didn't analyze shit. -He gave out some town reads that agreed with town sentiment. -His reasoning for S&B being town is absolute bull. (S&B saw Debears post in a newbie game currently in signups, HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO S&B GOING OUTSIDE THE GAME AND LOOKING FOR MAFIA??) -He writes to a whole lot of nothing about OP (why did you even include that if you've made no conclusion off of it? -And to top it off he then says that me and kush are BAD players so we are the top lynch choices -Now when I called him out on him being more interested in lynching people for being bad than scum he says that we should focus on lurkers. I don't believe that Pandain has any interest in hunting scum. ##Vote: Pandain | ||
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On September 12 2013 14:47 Papa_Smurf wrote: I disagree with the SnB being town read just because he saw my smurf signed up as coach. If you call him town, call him town by his in game play Like, as a player in the forum, its not like he was researching me and that's how he found me signed up as coach, it was a completely different circumstance. And to say "oh you must be smurf because of that", when my name is papa smurf is no new knowledge Do you think that Pandain is scum? | ||
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