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FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 25 2013 18:26 GMT
#34
/in
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 29 2013 01:31 GMT
#171
Hi, I'm here. Reading now. I predict rayn is gonna call me out on this post and accuse me of being scum.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 29 2013 06:58 GMT
#195
13 idiots walk into a bar.

Story of Idiot #1:
+ Show Spoiler +
ONE asks for a glass of water. The bartender pulls out a revolver and points it at the idiot. The idiot says, "Thank you" and walks out of the bar.

Why?


To be continued...
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 30 2013 19:26 GMT
#929
##vote:Tutankoopa
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 30 2013 19:27 GMT
#933
hold yo horsis, hapa. I will explain. I'm still catchin up.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 30 2013 19:30 GMT
#937
Quick question for those who have played with Sciberbia. Does he always play very deliberate and calculated even when he is town? I am unfamiliar with his meta.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 30 2013 19:32 GMT
#940
On August 31 2013 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 04:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quick question for those who have played with Sciberbia. Does he always play very deliberate and calculated even when he is town? I am unfamiliar with his meta.


Pretty normal for scum and town Sciberia.

Ok thank you. That is what I predicted.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 30 2013 19:57 GMT
#951
I can't believe it... Is Yamato seriously scum again?
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
August 30 2013 19:58 GMT
#953
On August 31 2013 04:57 FirmTofu wrote:
I can't believe it... Is Yamato seriously scum again?

He's voting all the easy inactives like he did in Persona and is posting one-liners with no substance. This is hilarious.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 11:56:34
September 12 2013 11:37 GMT
#2868
I absolutely despise this town for lynching me when many of you KNOW that I afk a lot on Day 1 and become more active later in the game, regardless of alignment.

See: Nuclear winter(Town), Persona (Scum), GoT(Town), One of my newbies I can't remember the roman numeral of(Town), and this game(Town)

Your obvious question: Why does FirmTofu consistently play like this?
Your Wrong Answer: FirmTofu is an asshole who deliberately wants his alignment to lose every game.
The Right Answer: FirmTofu generally dislikes the spam during Day 1 and is naturally less motivated to read the thread. He doesn't like pandering to bullshit accusations and prefers to take his time catching up.

While this may not be the optimal way to play, people who are familiar with my meta, were town this game, and voted me on Day 1 should seriously reevaluate their motivations for voting me.

Why did you vote me when:
1) It was a baseless lurker vote and you know FirmTofu is capable of becoming more active as the game progresses.
2) You know FirmTofu is notorious for AFKing during Day 1 as both alignments.
3) There are plenty of better targets that will yield more information about other people post-lynch.

For my lynch alone, I think this town did not deserve to win this game.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 11:39 GMT
#2871
Now that I'm done with my rant, I would like to say that yamato played a great lategame as town. I also think Onegu was blatantly obvious as scum for the longest time and I have no idea how he was not lynched sooner.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 11:42:48
September 12 2013 11:42 GMT
#2872
On September 12 2013 20:38 marvellosity wrote:
Or you could just try playing properly, that would help

Define "properly". Attacking people for not posting? Defending myself from people saying I'm not talking enough? I find it all utterly pointless. I don't enjoy repeating the same Day 1 arguments game after game and being accused of being scum for my opinions that are completely non-alignment indicative.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 11:44 GMT
#2874
On September 12 2013 20:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 20:38 marvellosity wrote:
Or you could just try playing properly, that would help

+1.

Let's all say nothing on D1. Hell, as we get no info on anything that makes D2 like D1. Therefore, let's not say anything on D2... see the pattern?

That is not what I am suggesting. I am talking about my play and my play only. I am not generalizing to suggest that my play is "good play".
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 11:48 GMT
#2876
On September 12 2013 20:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
The question is what you enjoy less:
meaningless Day 1's
or
getting lynched


your call, really

Definitely meaningless Day 1s. I also don't think my lynch was sufficiently justified.

Let me clarify. I think I played a bad Day 1. I think I was a terrible lynch, regardless of my bad play.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 11:52 GMT
#2878
On September 12 2013 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 20:39 FirmTofu wrote:
Now that I'm done with my rant, I would like to say that yamato played a great lategame as town. I also think Onegu was blatantly obvious as scum for the longest time and I have no idea how he was not lynched sooner.

If you were in the game from D3 -> you would see why Sno's read on yamato was what it was. By proxy, you would also see why we lynched Sno instead of pretty obvscum Onegu. It's easy to yell from the obs QT. You are not frustrated because someone refuses to play the game for 5 days straight. Even if you can look past that you can't look past the other guy who couldn't look past that. Then everyone seems so fucking scummy for whatever reasons you miss the fact that someone pretty much claims scum in thread. Even when another dude points it out you are paranoid because he has refused to play the game for 5 days when you were trying to play your fullest to solve the game. Then this same guy calls you repeatedly bad after you have been leading two mafia lynches in a row when he was having a tea party in lurker land. It's a different thing to call the obvious things from obs QT when your ass is not in the line any more in the game.

And btw we would have probably lynched Sylencia on D1 if you had not lurked your way to getting mislynched..

For the record, I never even looked/commented in Obs QT. I also think you played a solid midgame. I'm not blaming you for Onegu not being lynched, if that's what you're getting at. It was town's collective mistake.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 11:54 GMT
#2879
On September 12 2013 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 20:42 FirmTofu wrote:
On September 12 2013 20:38 marvellosity wrote:
Or you could just try playing properly, that would help

Define "properly". Attacking people for not posting? Defending myself from people saying I'm not talking enough? I find it all utterly pointless. I don't enjoy repeating the same Day 1 arguments game after game and being accused of being scum for my opinions that are completely non-alignment indicative.


your few posts that you made were pretty laughable.

when you get lynched as town, you can either shout at half the town for lynching you, or realise that you made yourself exceedingly lynchable by how you played

up to you

i always find a good question to ask about playstyle is "if everyone played in a similar style to me, what would happen?" - in this case if the entire town lurked and said shit, then the game would break and nothing would work. Whereas most people will try and produce content, and that's what any town needs to function.

You're basically arguing that you should be a special case because you don't like day 1s.

No.

I know I played badly. That's not what I'm discussing. I'm evaluating town's decision to lynch me independently of my bad play. We aren't even talking about the same thing.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 11:57 GMT
#2881
On September 12 2013 20:55 marvellosity wrote:
Towns will lynch players like you on d1 for all eternity.

Which is why it's a townie's responsibility to not play badly.

I don't disagree marv.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 12:05 GMT
#2883
On September 12 2013 20:59 marvellosity wrote:
Then why are you arguing you were a bad lynch?

I mean obviously you weren't a great lynch because you were town, but as Day 1s go it was a pretty standard lynch. Lynch some useless dude saying weird things, maybe he'll flip mafia, maybe he won't.

In so many games recently people keep saying "this d1 lynch was terrible" when really they're quite normal to go down like this.

A terrible day 1 lynch is when you lynch someone who you can think about and say they had some clear towntells

We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to argue with you. I was a bad lynch because of my meta. I was a bad lynch because lurker lynches are nearly always a bad idea on Day 1.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 12 2013 19:16 GMT
#2923
You guys convinced me to change my outdated sig.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
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