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Bones - GM-level Protoss Replay Pack #8! (30 reps)

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Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 02:35:59
August 10 2013 03:45 GMT
#1
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Replay Pack #9!

Mostly similar strategies, some good games!

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Click Me!

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Introduction

Hi, I'm Myles "Bones" Donald, a not-quite-Grandmaster NA Protoss and team captain of Clarity Gaming Academy. Finally back at StarCraft in full force after some downtime. Quite high up in Masters right now and hopefully back in GM soon!

The Pack

Replay Pack #8

+ Show Spoiler [Replay Pack #8] +
www.mediafire.com/?ydyhu9lbtl522i5


Rough Overview

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First off, I'm a FFE (Forge Fast Expand) person. Although, recent professional PvZ has tempted me to switch it up. Namely, Naniwa in WCS EU. One of my favorite and long-standing builds is a ~7:00 third base off 1 Gate and a Robo.

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It's a strong opener with many possible followups depending on Hallucination scouting. However, it is quite map dependent in order to remain a safe opener. Therefore, due to recent map pools, I've been unable to use it as frequently lately. For more of this build I'd actually suggest referring to past replay packs, probably #6 or #7. + Show Spoiler [Further Info] +
See this TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414398


The other build that I employ when I can't go for the super fast third (which is quite often) is the old Phoenix -> Colossus -> Third Base style.

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I've recently been adding in a Warp Prism early on to keep the Zerg busy; as well as adding more Void Rays into the Colossus composition, they're quite good!

From there, with either of the builds, I'll usually head into defensive play; reacting to whatever the Zerg decides to throw at me with heavy Hallucination usage and some harassment.

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I prefer the Double Forge+Colossus+Blink macro style against Terran; defending off 2 bases with the Mothership Core until ready to secure a third around the 12 minute mark with Colossus and strong upgrades on the way. As well, I employ up to 4 Observers in strategic locations to remain safe against Terran drops or other army movement.

I've been working on this style for some time now, and I think I'm now in a fairly good spot versus all the various Terran midgame death pushes which can be troublesome.

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Around 5 Colossus and +2+2 upgrades, as well as Blink Stalkers+Zealot buffer, are actually incredibly good at melting Terran Bio+Viking with proper positioning.

I'll usually stay on that composition, postponing storm research until after +3+3 is underway and a few Archons are out. From there, it mostly depends on the Terran. If they're content to go to lategame, then so be it.

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Tempest+Templar+Cannons can make for some long games.

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I usually open with double gas on 15 supply, going for a safe Stargate opener and playing reactively based on consistent scouting with Phoenix. I like to throw down a saftey Robo after the first Phoenix, which is cancelled primarily if the opponent is going Phoenix themselves. From there I play reactively and defensively.

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This style can sometimes fall behind versus very fast expansions, but 3-4 Phoenix harass with constant Probe production can make things even enough.

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From there I'll usually transition into some Colossus followed by Templar tech, with constant work on the Ground Attack upgrades. Of course, all of this is (and needs to be) subject to variation based on the opponent's tech of choice, which is kept in constant check by Phoenix (hallucinated or not).

For me, PvP usually ends up going all the way to Tempest-based lategame. Attacking unless well ahead in PvP is often disastrous, and unless my opponent wants to attack into me, there will end up being some very long games.

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More Info

There's 30 replays in this pack, 9 PvZ, 7 PvT, 14 PvP. Lots of PvP, as seems to be the trend lately. It's actually my favorite matchup at the moment (bring on WCS EU RO8). Do note, probably about 7 of these replays are from prior to the latest patch. I'm fairly sure they still work but you have to disconnect from battle.net to watch them, which is unfortunate.

The vast majority of these games should be vs other GM-level players on ranked ladder. All replays are labeled with a rough description of the game/builds as well as the match-up.There's a decent variety of games in the pack. Most are solid macro games on my part, defending and reacting. However, there's also a few "silly" games in there for your entertainment.

I've been back to streaming lately, almost daily. Hoping to continue that trend and play more and more in the coming weeks. You can also check out my recent VODs from the past couple weeks if you're looking for more of my play. Another thing to note, if there's any interest I may start writing up more detailed guides of my builds/play-styles over in the SC2 Strategy section.

You can find past replay packs as well as VODs and other info over on my Liquipedia Page.

Please feel free to leave any feedback in the comments below. Thanks!

Follow Me:

Twitter: @ClairtyBones
Twitch: Twitch.tv/Zeppelin535

Follow Clarity Gaming:

Twitter: @Clarity_Gaming
Facebook: Facebook.com/ClarityGaming
Website: ClarityGaming.com

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Bones (P) | @BonesSC2 | twitch.tv/Bones535
Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
August 10 2013 03:56 GMT
#2
One game I did forget about, here's a bonus replay of a rather exhausting PvT from a recent clan war: http://drop.sc/353636
Bones (P) | @BonesSC2 | twitch.tv/Bones535
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 10 2013 04:04 GMT
#3
sickkk!
rip prime
DeVx
Profile Joined September 2011
United States98 Posts
August 10 2013 04:09 GMT
#4
Thank you for this! Maybe my PvT can finally improve after this
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
August 10 2013 04:21 GMT
#5
High masters on NA? You're a damned fool for revealing the secrets to your success.
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
August 10 2013 04:25 GMT
#6
On August 10 2013 13:21 pigmanbear wrote:
High masters on NA? You're a damned fool for revealing the secrets to your success.

He would be gm, but it takes him about 90 minutes per game, so he can never spend his bonus pool fast enough, even playing full time.
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
yakitate304
Profile Joined April 2009
United States655 Posts
August 10 2013 04:26 GMT
#7
Wow, nice presentation. Thanks for the descriptions and everything!
Yaki's Streaming Madness: twitch.tv/YakiSC ||| FRB Grand Tournament Organizer ||| @YakiStarCraft ||| Youtube.com/YakiStarCraft
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
August 10 2013 04:27 GMT
#8
Thanks for the replay pack!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
August 10 2013 04:34 GMT
#9
On August 10 2013 13:25 intense555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 13:21 pigmanbear wrote:
High masters on NA? You're a damned fool for revealing the secrets to your success.

He would be gm, but it takes him about 90 minutes per game, so he can never spend his bonus pool fast enough, even playing full time.


Exactly! Also my ladder play is miserably inconsistent.
Bones (P) | @BonesSC2 | twitch.tv/Bones535
Bamm
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden279 Posts
August 10 2013 12:27 GMT
#10
Thanks!:D
Bamm and the dirt is gone!
-TBo
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada16 Posts
August 10 2013 20:29 GMT
#11
Bones is an incredibly patient, macro-based player. Which usually ends in his favor as many opponents are not able to play the waiting game and know how to handle that situation like, Bones. Check out the replay pack, you will not regret it one bit!
Grandmaster Zerg -Member of Clarity Academy - claritygaming.com - @Clarity_gaming - @ClarityTBo - www.twitch.tv/tbizzo
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1253 Posts
August 13 2013 21:19 GMT
#12
That is the sexiest replay pack thread I have ever seen.

I'll be casting a couple of games and they'll be up on my channel asap
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
NMxSardines
Profile Joined February 2012
77 Posts
August 17 2013 16:25 GMT
#13
Bones' passive style... ain't nobody got time for that. Good for learning how to play macro and hold aggression attempts...
ant885
Profile Joined July 2011
United States52 Posts
August 17 2013 18:34 GMT
#14
Quick question (sorry if it seems inconsiderate, I'd just rather ask before spending the time watching all your pvts)

I stopped doing the blink/col double forge style because scv pulls were really annoying to deal with compared to faster storm styles

do any of your replays include successfully defending the scv pulls? (namely double starport or 2/2 timings)
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
August 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#15
Thanks for not just linking some replays, sweet writeups. And thanks for the reps.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
August 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#16
Thank you very much.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-17 21:57:00
August 17 2013 21:56 GMT
#17
On August 18 2013 03:34 ant885 wrote:
Quick question (sorry if it seems inconsiderate, I'd just rather ask before spending the time watching all your pvts)

I stopped doing the blink/col double forge style because scv pulls were really annoying to deal with compared to faster storm styles

do any of your replays include successfully defending the scv pulls? (namely double starport or 2/2 timings)


First off, most of what I try to do in PvT right now with that style is to make it work vs exactly those pushes, since those are the major weakness of the build. However, it is definitely doable. Unless you take economic damage early, or fall behind due to bad macro, those pushes can be managed with Colossus+Blink and Zealot buffer. It's surprisingly good at dealing with it given good positioning and proper Stalker micro (killing Vikings). Also to note, I don't think I've ever been hit by a terribly fast double Starport timing.

But, if you do fall behind early... I do agree that you're probably going to automatically die to one of those 15/16 minute death pushes from the Terran.

As for the replays, I think there are 2 replays specifically vs SCV pulls. But a couple others vs equally scary Bio+Viking death pushes around the 15/16 minute mark. I'll definitely try to gather more of those types of replays for future packs, as that is indeed the crux of the style, holding those pushes.
Bones (P) | @BonesSC2 | twitch.tv/Bones535
Souldrinkah
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden48 Posts
August 17 2013 22:04 GMT
#18
amazing contribution to the midmaster protoss community, you are friend!!!
Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa381 Posts
August 18 2013 20:43 GMT
#19
YAY another Bones replay pack! Thanks man, you're my go-to-guy for PvT replays :D

Please continue to post replays in the future!
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 03:51:33
August 26 2013 03:51 GMT
#20
woops.
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
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