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austinmcc
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On August 30 2013 10:26 Blazinghand wrote: There isn't thread cohesion yet. If you've got magical cora reads, make em whenever he does whatever. But "playing against" fake scottish accents and large numbers at the start of a game isn't ... valid? The thing is cora I don't think this is alignment indicative. You're giving shit reasons and swearing at people would definitely be scum aligned (Trying to shit up the thread) if it weren't for the fact that I know you. I know how butthurt you get, how emotional you get, how irrational you are. How all the drama on TL Mafia just HAPPENS to swirl around you. You're clearly butthurt and don't even want to admit it, because let's be real here: you have no reason to be a dick to wave (even if he too is being a dick) and saying "fuck you" and your policy shit on Oats doesn't make sense. You're playing against town/thread cohesion which is fairly impressive given how hard it is to do that when the game is barely begun. Three theories, none of which you like 1) cora is scum 2) cora is really really mind bogglingly bad 3) cora is butthurt one of these fits quite well with your personality I like tryhard early BH, usually that means good things for town. But this is a whole lot of trying for something that doesn't seem like much. | ||
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Like...say I had a cow to sell you and I'm not willing to part with it for less than $2000. But it's worth $10000, easy $8000 cow-profit for you. How much would you pay for my cow? | ||
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BH WHATCHOO DO | ||
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Although on the off chance you're not trying to be sneakypants here, I'd like to remind you that saying I WON'T BE LYNCHED AND IF YOU LYNCH ME I'MA KILL BH should actually be leading you to be townie on BH right now and NOT shoot him. So, if you weren't being sneakypants, you've telegraphed a target and are still getting lynched/are picking up a buncha votes. Leading me to believe that BH isn't a good alternate target, just based on that. I'd rather you pop kita, ShiaoPi, or VA. | ||
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That's how he's played today. Start with some reads/comments, move heavy into the speculation game. Once you pass the initial "real stuff" gate in his filter, I see a lot of Black Mesa speculation, and not much else beyond the one big reads post. That post DOES read like someone doing work, but then he asks for opinions on any of the other individuals, doesn't really get them, his BIG WORK post gets buried, and he's got no issues with that. If he just posted a buncha scum reads and wanted comment, he'd be trying to drum up comment, trying not to have his reads buried, imo. He can be very forceful and can take over a thread, instead he's happy with all the geript jazz going on. ShiaoPi entered with a vote on WoS for reasons that weren't given, and I always always hate those votes. Actually, I don't want ShiaoPi killed yet. Hold off on that, he needs to be a lynch option on a later day and not a shot. VA starts the day scumhunting. Great. Wonderful. A+. VA then, under what I consider not nearly enough scrutiny, claims a role that is SUPER anti-getting-nightkilled, and I presume that while town has KP, scum has more night KP. (1) I don't like the timing on his claim. That role is HUGE if you're town and think you have great reads (which is what he's been spamming before). It's ASS if you reveal it. (2) His post-claim behavior is to continue poking at his reads (townie) into ... nothing. If his claim is truthful, then scum really don't want to have to nightkill him, they want to leave him alive and in thread (assuming his reads are decent/it's not endgame). His play after his claim plays right into that - don't continue pressure, don't build reads, don't force discussion, just claim early and shut down, more or less. I think that if his claim were truthful, his post-claim conduct would be the opposite. Dislike the claim + think his play doesn't support the claim. Despite actually giving some scumreads and pushing earlier in the day, he then shuts down, even as Felkyr picks up some votes today. Either he's scum or he's trying to pull something by fakeclaiming imo, and last time he did that it helped get me killed. Boo. | ||
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On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote: His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan.MAH POST GOES HERE +100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me. I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. | ||
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geript, I'd like to hear a specific explanation from you. If you are town, then you know mafia knows you're town. Yet you still picked up boatloads of votes, and there weren't any strong pushes off of you except a bit of movement towards felkyr at one point. Knowing that mafia would know you're town, but still let you pick up votes and didn't try to push things off you means BH likely town. I even mentioned that earlier, figuring that you were actually going to choose another target. But you didn't. So I'm interested in why your thought process never wavered, given that there wasn't really any attempt to get a different lynch going when you were constantly saying you'd shoot BH. On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote: This is partially correct. rayn fakeclaimed that nuke, not Vayne. FORGET THE NUCLEAR COMPARISONS. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear. However, blatantly lying about past games figuring nobody will go back and read them (or just remember playing in them) would be an AWFUL strategy. And, despite some of my nuclear play, I'm not usually awful. You guys just have rhyming names that are very similar. | ||
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I initially took this for an actual murky claim: On August 30 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote: Is everybody okay with me deciding who we lynch today? However, now that we KNOW geript (or someone else if geript super playacting) can essentially decide a lynch, if Zentor was hinting at something we'd have two people that can singlehandedly control a lynch? Apart from that:MrZentor's last post before this was 11:37 TL time Aug 30. Axle posts that vote 17:20 Aug 31. Zentor responds 5:04 Sept 1. Either Zentor just ctrl Fs his name, or he read/followed thread over the course of 2 days and provided nothing at all. He also went into the voting thread and voted geript at 5:17 TL time, 13 minutes after his "seems legit" post. Reads thread + adds nothing at all + odd 13 minute period where he posts in thread then votes later = scum. If someone was active in Black Mesa during that time period, please let us know, it's likely him and it gives another explanation, but...MrZentor be scum. | ||
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I may be wrong, but I don't see a town voterigger geript using his power JUST to kill a guy. I have been working under the assumption that, had the lynch moved off of him, he wouldn't have rigged. Really I wanted to see whether geript had a good explanation/had thought things through. I'm not sure of him right now and that was gonna help  | ||
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VE died and flipped black but no role. This is portant. Could everybody in Black Mesa QT please post, and people report back to thread if any pseudonyms don't show up? Gives us a clue of someone who was unknown and in BM, and maybe indicated that BM don't flip with roles? Will do what I can to set aside paranoia concerning that for now, but if VE was the guy who claimed 3P in BM chat, that seems kinda nice. If everyone in BM shows up, we know there's some other faction, but if someone specific is missing, we maybe know that VE was BM and maybe BM don't flip (could be someone in BM just not posting to make it seem like they're VE, which would be mean). Still minorly interested in geript's thought process. I'll read hiro and some other folks when I'm more functional. Been scum with scumhiro a couple times, don't know that I have any super insight into him though. | ||
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Go read that last game. Black Mesa was a mafia faction that functioned around repositioning people in the player list. We have people who reposition people on the player list in Black Mesa this time around. If we can figure out whether we have multiple mafia factions or just VE as some unknown 3P, is good. Plus you are a dessert. | ||
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The difference between those two options is sizeable, imo. Again, you a dessert. | ||
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